Prospect Info: Vitali Kravtsov: Part IX

[Sayba]

Go with a 4th line of Blackwell-Rooney-Gauthier and move on from the outdated philosophy that you need talentless goons on your 4th line

Blackwell, Rooney and PDG are talentless goons?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Blackwell, Rooney and PDG are talentless goons?

He is saying the opposite.

 

[Gr8CornHolio]

I’m not sure if this article has been posted, but I was curious to get everyone’s thoughts.

My initial thought is this shows exactly how confused this organization is. A balancing act that of trying to win and while develop young talent is a problem a contender has.

We are still in a rebuild right?

Shouldn’t Priority one be develop young talent and win second? Winning should be a luxury at this stage in the rebuild focus one should be getting the young players experience ence right?

curious to others thoughts and opinions



Vitali Kravtsov complicates Rangers' tough balancing act

 

[Number 9]

Blackwell, Rooney and PDG are talentless goons?

Goons aren't really in hockey anymore and haven't been for a few years. Talentless goons are a non issue, tired of hearing people still whine about them.

 

[nyr2k2]

kriederman has been on this site for a really long time. I'm surprised he would make such a foolish comment. Goons aren't really in hockey anymore and haven't been for a few years. Talentless goons are a non issue, tired of hearing people still whine about them.

LOL he was saying the opposite. He was saying make your fourth line Blackwell, Rooney, and Gauthier, and move on from the idea that you need guys like Glass, Brash, etc. on the fourth line. He's specifically saying Blackwell, Rooney, and Gauthier are NOT talentless goons.

 

[will1066]

I’m not sure if this article has been posted, but I was curious to get everyone’s thoughts.

My initial thought is this shows exactly how confused this organization is. A balancing act that of trying to win and while develop young talent is a problem a contender has.

We are still in a rebuild right?

Shouldn’t Priority one be develop young talent and win second? Winning should be a luxury at this stage in the rebuild focus one should be getting the young players experience ence right?

curious to others thoughts and opinions



Vitali Kravtsov complicates Rangers' tough balancing act

I have posted about this. That's why Quinn gets so much shit (deservedly so at times) for riding the vets

 

[Number 9]

LOL he was saying the opposite. He was saying make your fourth line Blackwell, Rooney, and Gauthier, and move on from the idea that you need guys like Glass, Brash, etc. on the fourth line. He's specifically saying Blackwell, Rooney, and Gauthier are NOT talentless goons.

LOL! ok, i didnt realize 4th lines were still made up of talentless goons. Stupid comment, I miss 90's hockey not the "goons" but actual physicality. I don't like boring passive hockey not sure what some of you think.

 

[True Blue]

My initial thought is this shows exactly how confused this organization is. A balancing act that of trying to win and while develop young talent is a problem a contender has.

Ok. So drop Buchnevich and install Kravstov. Bench Lindgren and install Reuanen. Drop Panarin and move Lafreniere up

There is no confusion within the organization.

 

[True Blue]

I have posted about this. That's why Quinn gets so much shit (deservedly so at times) for riding the vets

He is doing no different than any other coach would. If Mika and Strome were in LA, how much time do you think Dach would be getting?

Quinn has a very hard balancing act to keep. Between a rock and a hard place really. But the desire to win games and make a playoff run starts right at the top with JD & Gorton.

 

[aufheben]

Glad to see everyone learned from the last time and are tempering expectations this time around.

 

[Synergy27]

Ok. So drop Buchnevich and install Kravstov. Bench Lindgren and install Reuanen. Drop Panarin and move Lafreniere up

There is no confusion within the organization.

Orrrrr...

Bench Smith and play Reunanen, or rotate them every now and then?

Play the third line more than the fourth line?

Use two PP units and keep Blackwell off the second one?

You see, there are nuanced ideas, and then the insistence on one extreme or the other that you tend to want to box people into.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Glad to see everyone learned from the last time and are tempering expectations this time around.

I'm pretty sure Kravtsov is going to score a hat trick in his first game.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I'm pretty sure Kravtsov is going to score a hat trick in his first game.

Hard time doing that in 8 minuets of ice time

 

[Ola]

Ok. So drop Buchnevich and install Kravstov. Bench Lindgren and install Reuanen. Drop Panarin and move Lafreniere up

There is no confusion within the organization.

Look, your point is definitely legit.

But this is something I’ve been trying to talk about a long term, you can’t have it both ways. We are trying to build a contender. That is the goal. Management should be held accountable and evaluated in relation to that and no other goal.

 

[True Blue]

Orrrrr...

Bench Smith and play Reunanen, or rotate them every now and then?

Play the third line more than the fourth line?

Use two PP units and keep Blackwell off the second one?

You see, there are nuanced ideas, and then the insistence on one extreme or the other that you tend to want to box people into.

Orrrr.....when trying to keep in the race for the last 20 games, the line that was playing significantly better (the 4th line) is going to play with the one that struggled in their own end (the 3rd line)?

Have you watched Hartford lately and seen what Tarmo has been doing? The answer is not really anything. Smith has played the roll of a #6 defenseman fairly well. JD, Gorton & Quinn are trying to make the playoffs. Sorry, that is the way it is.

 

[True Blue]

Look, your point is definitely legit.

But this is something I’ve been trying to talk about a long term, you can’t have it both ways. We are trying to build a contender. That is the goal. Management should be held accountable and evaluated in relation to that and no other goal.

Then do what I said.

This team is trying to make the playoffs. The young kids would be much better served playing the last 20 games as they mean something, then simply running out the string. Here's the thing. There is not a single coach or a single general manager that would do anything different if they were sitting 3 points out of a playoff spot and playing fairly well.

 

[Vitto79]

So will Kravtsov snap if they ask him to play a few AHL games then come back

 

[GAGLine]

So will Kravtsov snap if they ask him to play a few AHL games then come back

I doubt it, but what benefit is there to sending him down? Playing a couple games in the AHL isn't the same as playing in the NHL, and he is going to get into a game sooner rather than later. Until then, practicing with NHL players has a benefit.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Orrrr.....when trying to keep in the race for the last 20 games, the line that was playing significantly better (the 4th line) is going to play with the one that struggled in their own end (the 3rd line)?

Have you watched Hartford lately and seen what Tarmo has been doing? The answer is not really anything. Smith has played the roll of a #6 defenseman fairly well. JD, Gorton & Quinn are trying to make the playoffs. Sorry, that is the way it is.

I think Smith has been good.

 

[dshea19]

I think Smith has been good.

Smith, for me, is a rollercoaster during a game. He makes some plays where he really stands out in a good way, and then he makes a play where you just want to pull your hair out. That probably describes most #6 defensemen in the league. I think he has been, overall, fine at the #6 slot, if you don't take his salary into account. The biggest thing in his favor is that he plays with an edge and is willing to throw down for his team.

 

[CupSeeker]

I think Smith has been good.

Brendan Smith? Good at what? He made a good pass to Bread for a breakaway goal. Otherwise, he is out of position all night; a true liability.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Brendan Smith?

No—Neil.

 

[True Blue]

I think Smith has been good.

Not sure what anyone else would want from a 6th defenseman

 

[True Blue]

No—Neil.

I was going to say that only the willfully ignorant could find that many issues with the team's 6th defenseman. And well, there you have it.

 

[JT Kreider]

I’m not sure if this article has been posted, but I was curious to get everyone’s thoughts.

My initial thought is this shows exactly how confused this organization is. A balancing act that of trying to win and while develop young talent is a problem a contender has.

We are still in a rebuild right?

Shouldn’t Priority one be develop young talent and win second? Winning should be a luxury at this stage in the rebuild focus one should be getting the young players experience ence right?

curious to others thoughts and opinions



Vitali Kravtsov complicates Rangers' tough balancing act

No the rebuild ended when Panarin was signed and the priority then became to be competitive during the peak years of the most talented player this franchise has had in a very long time, maybe even ever.