Player Discussion Vitali Kravtsov - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Kshahdoo]

Another goal. 22+24 after 56 games. 13+9 in the last 20 games...

 

[VanJack]

Another goal. 22+24 after 56 games. 13+9 in the last 20 games...

We might be whipping a dead horse here. No matter how many points Kravtsov wracks up in the KHL, there's a sizable majority on these Boards who are convinced he's 'done' as an NHL player.

And if Canucks had any scoring depth on the wing, I'd say they'd be 100 percent right. But after Boeser and Debrusk, who runs hot and cold, scoring from the wingers on this Canuck team basically falls off a cliff. And other than maybe Lekkerimaki, there's absolutely nothing on the horizon.

But I guess we'll soon find out with Kravtsov. His two year KHL deal is up in just over a month or so; and if he re-signs, then he's probably as good as done in North America.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is a real thread ?! I thought for sure it was an off topic secret hide out

This is the thread where we secretly keep track of Josh Leivo's stats, in case we re-sign him.
He's up to 41 goals now. Top scorer in any top pro league outside the nhl.

 

[Nucker42]

How many guys leave and come back and have successful careers? Extremely rare. He’s toasted.

 

[Kshahdoo]

How many guys leave and come back and have successful careers? Extremely rare. He’s toasted.

His problem wasn't talent or skill, but attitude. If he's somehow changed and started to undertand what is it to be a professional hockey player, then there is hope he still is able to restart his NHL career. After all he sucked in the KHL as well before this season...

 

[Bubbles]

Kravtsov is unlikely to come back. He probably won't make it if he tries. But the Canucks hold his NHL rights, and there'll always be a handful of Canuck fans who maintain interest in such players until the door is permanently shut. That's long been the case. Tryamkin. Koltsov. Even Chubarov.

How dare you crush my dreams of a front line of Sergei Shirokov and Anton Rodin, and defenseman Henrik Tommernes??

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Should have kept Kravtsov over Pettersson

 

[VanJack]

Worth noting that the KHL is kind of a weird league, and that success tends to translate in a less than linear fashion between the KHL and NHL possibly moreso than any other high-end league. Reid Boucher and Nikolay Goldobin were 1-2 and goals and tied for 2nd in the league for points last season.

I think Sheldon Rempal might currently have more points than Kravtsov.

Count me as another who's totally baffled at times of what to make of the KHL. I mean an NHL journeyman like Josh Leivo is the runaway scoring leader. And Sheldon Rempal, who plied his trade in the Pacific Division of the AHL for the past two or three seasons, is solidly in the top 10 in scoring.

He joins the likes of Taylor Beck, Jordan Weal, Nathan Todd (who is he?) and Max Comptois as top scorers in the KHL. I mean from all reports, the league isn't that bad. But if these AHL vets can light it up, then how good can it be?

My only question is the size of the ice. Do KHL teams play on the larger Olympic ice sheet? That might explain why some of these guys thrive with more room to operate out there than on NA rinks.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Count me as another who's totally baffled at times of what to make of the KHL. I mean an NHL journeyman like Josh Leivo is the runaway scoring leader. And Sheldon Rempal, who plied his trade in the Pacific Division of the AHL for the past two or three seasons, is solidly in the top 10 in scoring.

He joins the likes of Taylor Beck, Jordan Weal, Nathan Todd (who is he?) and Max Comptois as top scorers in the KHL. I mean from all reports, the league isn't that bad. But if these AHL vets can light it up, then how good can it be?

My only question is the size of the ice. Do KHL teams play on the larger Olympic ice sheet? That might explain why some of these guys thrive with more room to operate out there than on NA rinks.

And then Tsyplakov moved to the NHL and...

It's pretty easy to explain actually: they come to the KHL and get top6 roles there they couldn't get in the NHL. Plus a lot of TOI. Of course their scoring goes up.

And players like Tsyplakov are able to play not just top6 roles, that's why Leivo sucked in the NHL and Tsyplakov doesn't.