Video of Nolan hit?

[Bandit]

I don't. That loser isn't worth the risk to Quick's hands.

This. Smith can whine like a ***** all he wants, I'd prefer Quick just keeps on stopping pucks and winning games.

 

[tigermask48]

i undersrand the Shanahan explanation. I think there's just a difference between first and principal point of contact. I think the league is tryign to get rid of the principal. in this scenario, i think the head was the first point of contact, while the chest was principal. I still wouldn't have objected had Nolan got a suspension because, like i said, the head whipped violently and it sure looked bad. that and i dont think any hockey player should have to fight the effects of a concussion, so i hope Klesla gets better soon.

I sort of get what you are saying, but at the same time there's the section in the rules about the player being checked putting himself in a vulnerable position, which Klesla totally does on this hit. His head is down and he never sees Nolan coming, that's on him not Nolan. Nolan skates gets in front of him as best as he can hits him right in the logo. Klesla's head whips back because he isn't braced for a hit he never saw coming. Even if this was one of the Kings, the blame for how violent the hit looks is because the player is paying zero attention. At some point players need to realize they aren't in protective bubbles and start looking out for themselves. Good clean hit on a guy getting caught with his head down. If Klesla has his head up and is aware of what's coming he doesn't get thrown back and probably doesn't hit the ice in such a violent way (which may have been the cause of the concussion and whiplash.)

 

[Darth Vitale]

Thanks to whoever posted that hit. Couldn't find it anywhere else.

I don't think this was suspension-worthy hit at all but one thing is pretty clear from this type of situation, and that is the NHL needs to set up standard camera positions in each arena, so they can look at each hit from at least two angles. Part of the problem with these rulings is, it's a lot easier to see what's going on when the player making the hit, does not have his back to the camera.

Part of the reason the league is so inconsistent is they try to make the same judgements from random camera angles, and that's hard to do. What might look legal (or lethal) from one angle, might give a completely different impression from another angle. You need at least one angle where the player in question does not have his back turned to the camera, to be sure.

 

[tigermask48]

Thanks to whoever posted that hit. Couldn't find it anywhere else.

I don't think this was suspension-worthy hit at all but one thing is pretty clear from this type of situation, and that is the NHL needs to set up standard camera positions in each arena, so they can look at each hit from at least two angles. Part of the problem with these rulings is, it's a lot easier to see what's going on when the player making the hit, does not have his back to the camera.

Part of the reason the league is so inconsistent is they try to make the same judgements from random camera angles, and that's hard to do. What might look legal (or lethal) from one angle, might give a completely different impression from another angle. You need at least one angle where the player in question does not have his back turned to the camera, to be sure.

It's impossible to have that many camera angles in every arena. There is allegedly multiple angles of the hit bt the nhl isn't releasing them for whatever reason. I remember reading an article where someone from the coyotes said they had two angles of it. But angles are always going to vay from building to building. What works at Staples won't work at TD garden or MSG, and what works there won't at staples. To me two angles from an untelevised preseason game sounds about right.

 

[HYORI 1963]

i undersrand the Shanahan explanation. I think there's just a difference between first and principal point of contact. I think the league is tryign to get rid of the principal. in this scenario, i think the head was the first point of contact, while the chest was principal. I still wouldn't have objected had Nolan got a suspension because, like i said, the head whipped violently and it sure looked bad. that and i dont think any hockey player should have to fight the effects of a concussion, so i hope Klesla gets better soon.

I don't know...I'm thinking you're seeing it with your heart and not with your eyes. To me and everyone else on here, it's clearly a clean hit.

On a side note, I'm glad Bissonette got a 10 games suspension, but shouldn't Tippet also be fined? I'm pretty certain that Biss was tapped on the shoulder by Tippet to get on the ice.

 

[onlyalad]

I don't know...I'm thinking you're seeing it with your heart and not with your eyes. To me and everyone else on here, it's clearly a clean hit.

On a side note, I'm glad Bissonette got a 10 games suspension, but shouldn't Tippet also be fined? I'm pretty certain that Biss was tapped on the shoulder by Tippet to get on the ice.

I have not seen the event, but Sutter blames a rookie ref and says that there should have been no calls on the play. Funny thing is Biz's first game will be against LA.

 

[DocWest]

I have not seen the event, but Sutter blames a rookie ref and says that there should have been no calls on the play. Funny thing is Biz's first game will be against LA.

He'll be scratched for that one as usual.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

I have not seen the event, but Sutter blames a rookie ref and says that there should have been no calls on the play. Funny thing is Biz's first game will be against LA.

He'll be scratched for that one as usual.

Johnny Utah is probably 10,000x better at this than I am ,but Biz's fight card doesn't show a fight against Carcillio.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1803/fightcard_quickie

 

[Robert604strom]

He did look like he left his feet,and was late, too me the contact to the head was shoulder. If Jordan Nolan got nothing,than Biz should have got the same. But It didnt work out that way so be it.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

He did look like he left his feet,and was late, too me the contact to the head was shoulder. If Jordan Nolan got nothing,than Biz should have got the same. But It didnt work out that way so be it.

Off the bench is an automatic ten games

 

[Steve Zissou]

Off the bench is an automatic ten games

Ya, but you know, he should, like, only get what Nolan got, man.

 

[HolyShot*]

Do people here really care? I hope Kesla is o.k. but beyond that if Nolan gets suspended for 5 games or 50 he is as replaceable as a razor.

I love how people think that Nolan sucks. He's a good puck handler who can hit. How often do you find guys like that? I have no idea why he's in Sutter's dog house, but there must be some reason. It's probably to make room for Toffoli, but Nolan is the real deal. Guy will be a great 3rd liner someday, maybe a tweener 2nd liner.

 

[sinister6000]

Looked clean to me.

 

[Rorschach]

2011 Nolan - not an NHL player

2012 Nolan - has a NHL chance per coach Sutter and plays inspired, like he wants to be in the NHL

2013 Nolan - plays like he has a NHL job, should have lost his job

2014 Nolan - preseason plays like he needs to get his job back

With so many large young forwards who can skate and are challenging for NHL jobs, all of whom have greater offensive upside, Nolan better be skating hard and checking hard. Make sure you keep your one God-given (or Sutter-given) chance.


Kudos Jordan.
I almost expected Shanahan to say that he planned on using the video of your hit in his next DPS best legal hits video!
I hope this is the first of many clips of you striking fear into opponents; after last year's playoffs where other western teams' opposing players took excessive liberties on several of our core players, we likely have a permanent NHL job on the 4th line for someone who can preemptively hit such opposing players.

 

[Trolfoli]

I love how people think that Nolan sucks. He's a good puck handler who can hit. How often do you find guys like that? I have no idea why he's in Sutter's dog house, but there must be some reason. It's probably to make room for Toffoli, but Nolan is the real deal. Guy will be a great 3rd liner someday, maybe a tweener 2nd liner.

Dumb penalties. He was taking stupid penalties last year and I remember it costing the Kings more then once. Maybe he can get past the penalties this year. He does seem motivated at this point.

 

[Monarchist]

I love how people think that Nolan sucks. He's a good puck handler who can hit. How often do you find guys like that? I have no idea why he's in Sutter's dog house, but there must be some reason. It's probably to make room for Toffoli, but Nolan is the real deal. Guy will be a great 3rd liner someday, maybe a tweener 2nd liner.

Nolan has good hands and reflexes. I'd like to see him planted in front of the net on power plays.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Dumb penalties. He was taking stupid penalties last year and I remember it costing the Kings more then once. Maybe he can get past the penalties this year. He does seem motivated at this point.

Stoll, Doughty, Richards etc also took dumb penalties. The difference is, these guys don't land in Sutter's doghouse because of it.

I love Nolan's game!!!

 

[gtwyc]

love nolans game too! good skater decent hands the guys plays with so much aggression... i hope he can develop into our chris neil

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

This rivalry is awesome... all we need next is a pool for the Kings fans to dive into to match what the Dodgers did to the D Backs....