OT: Video Games VI

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You raise a good point -- I remember doing all that stuff, but how did I know how to do it? Who taught me to edit an autoexec.bat file? Where did I learn LH?

I was on a few BBSs, maybe I learned from there?
If you were completely isolated/introverted, then you were probably out of luck. The built-in help files/FAQ included with most of those programs only helped so much, but they could give you a nod in the right direction. A Readme.bat file could help, or typing /h as a suffix to some executables. The manuals back then were enormous for a reason (no Internet), but they rarely helped with this kind of problem in my experience.

You had games magazines, which sometimes had answers, but I didn't have access to any in the late 80s/very early 90s. They came later. I think what ended up working for me is that while I didn't have a ton of friends who were also into computers, I had just enough to bounce ideas off.

I also think that early on, I was able to deconstruct boot disks that sometimes came with a game. Some studios knew their games were impossible to play with the 523K that a lazy startup sequence left you with, so they included a card insert in their games (I didn't buy many, but I bought a few) or sometimes in the manual itself. Those card inserts actually wrote out a config.sys and an autoexec.bat to try out, and modify to suit your particular hardware, CD Rom drivers, mouse drivers, etc.

You learn one trick from things like that, and apply it to your next boot disks and so on. Of course, if you copied all the games like so many of us did, then box inserts weren't available to you. I think I lucked out in that some of those boxes of copied games also included copied boot disks, which contained the kernel of an answer. Then you just adapt it to your system.

I think 624K was about as streamlined as I'd ever get it, including sound blaster drivers (including speech), mouse drivers, and CD Rom drivers all working.

By the mid-90s, you had Windows, and there was PC Gamer, which would write articles on thorny Dos game-running issues. Then they included CD Roms in the magazines, which could help a lot and were a godsend when patches and mods were out there but dial up was so slow and bandwidth expensive. The Internet became a lot more widespread by about 1995 or 1996 and suddenly answers to all of these questions were everywhere. Access to a university computer lab around this time (or access in your room if you were luckier than I was at Georgetown) and a T1 connection was amazing.
 
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It must have been mostly word of mouth for me. I did have some computer gamer friends, and one in particular was a wanna be hacker. We even went to a couple of hacker meetings at the Crystal City food court. :laugh:

I had forgotten about the publisher/developer boot disks, but it sounds familiar now that you mention it. Deconstructing those probably helped.

What I don't remember is anyone ever paying for a PC game in that era. I had one friend in particular, a Mormon kid, who would just hand me a set of disks and tell me I had to play something. Thank goodness for that dude, he got me going on the old RTS Warcrafts, Star Control, Civ, and a bunch of other biggies that had big influences on my gaming tastes moving forward.
 
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There were also manned helpdesks out in Califronia that Sierra spent a fortune maintaining, with staff answering user questions 24/7. I think it nearly bankrupted the company there for a while. They eventually had to charge for the service. Most of that was in-game help with plot and adventure game puzzle solving, but a good bit was "Help! I can't get my game to run!"

Never used them, though I did buy a couple of hint books for $5 from time to time. Still have the clear red plastic strips to read the answers kicking around somewhere.

No one paid for games back then, though. The piracy was normalized. I feel a little badly about that today, but certainly didn't back then. Games were up to $70 Canadian. Without piracy, I wouldn't have played PC games. I'd have just got a console instead.
 
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There were also manned helpdesks out in Califronia that Sierra spent a fortune maintaining, with staff answering user questions 24/7. I think it nearly bankrupted the company there for a while. They eventualoly had to charge for the service. Most of that was in-game help with plot and adventure game puzzle solving, but a good bit was "Help! I can't get my game to run!"

Never used them, though I did buy a couple of hint books for $5 from time to time. Still have the clear red plastic strips to read the answers kicking around somewhere.

No one paid for games back then, though. The piracy was normalized.
I feel a little badly about that today, but certainly didn't back then. Games were up to $70 Canadian. Without piracy, I wouldn't have played PC games. I'd have just got a console instead.

Lol, forgot about those things. Remember all the copy protection methods they tried to employ? Codes on spinning wheels. Word X on line X on page X., etc.
 
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Lol, forgot about those things. Remember all the copy protection methods they tried to employ? Codes on spinning wheels. Word X on line X on page X., etc.
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I finished Jedi: Fallen Order last night. Loved it. The story was pretty good, the combat was fun, the puzzles were great, exploring the various planets was a blast. My only complaints were the map system (which was confusing), climbing in places could be a little buggy, and some of the bosses were way OP (I could only beat them in "story mode").But overall its a tremendous game, a 9/10 and easily a top 10 PS4 game for me. Thanks for the recommendation.
 
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Picked up the PS5 Director's Cut of Ghost of Tsushima including the expansion on a Black Friday deal. Looking forward to playing it again soon, then I'll get around to God of War: Ragnarok.
 
Picked up the PS5 Director's Cut of Ghost of Tsushima including the expansion on a Black Friday deal. Looking forward to playing it again soon, then I'll get around to God of War: Ragnarok.
Ghost is terrific. You’re going to love it. I think it’s the only game I’ve ever finished to 100%… I couldn’t put it down.
 
My first game was "Telengard", played on my TI-99/4A. Pretty sure it had 16Kb of RAM. Loaded the game from an audiotape drive. Those were the days...
 
There's so much good stuff here, but...

Back in the day we got two games every time we played a game. There was the game, and then there was the diagnostics game you got to play before you could play the game. Lucky!

Spending a couple of hours, if you were fortunate, trying to free up 624K of base 640K RAM to play a game with all its bells and whistles by writing autoexec.bat and config.sys files, without any programming experience, and you're 12. Everything crammed up in 4MB of expanded memory in Load High (LH). No Internet to find a better answer, just figure it out all on your own.
Ugggh! I just had flashbacks of trying to get programs from expanded memory into extended memory (or vice versa). Computers were like 3d printers are today: a hobbyist's medium where you were constantly tinkering, building, and modifying.
 
Hoping you gamers/tech savvy guys can help me out. I love my old school consoles…PS1 and Wii, but they don’t love my new TVs.

Are there any, reliable, X connection to HDMI adapters out there? Been scouring amazon and the reviews seem to indicate they work, for a while, then crap out. I don’t care about up conversion whatever it is, just that I can plug them in play my games.

I did find one, like 100 bucks, that has multiple inputs and can do smoothing and whatnot, and has very positive reviews.

I also toyed with the notion of getting a new AV receiver that still has component/rca inputs that upconverts to hdmi. Denon I believe makes it. I’d rather not drop 500 or whatever dollars when I can drop 100 or so.

Any guidance would be much appreciated.
 
Hoping you gamers/tech savvy guys can help me out. I love my old school consoles…PS1 and Wii, but they don’t love my new TVs.

Are there any, reliable, X connection to HDMI adapters out there? Been scouring amazon and the reviews seem to indicate they work, for a while, then crap out. I don’t care about up conversion whatever it is, just that I can plug them in play my games.

I did find one, like 100 bucks, that has multiple inputs and can do smoothing and whatnot, and has very positive reviews.

I also toyed with the notion of getting a new AV receiver that still has component/rca inputs that upconverts to hdmi. Denon I believe makes it. I’d rather not drop 500 or whatever dollars when I can drop 100 or so.

Any guidance would be much appreciated.
I bought a few different models for our Wii and think this one worked well. I’ll verify later tonight when I have some time.

RCA to HDMI Converter, Amtake 1080P RCA Composite CVBS AV to HDMI Video Audio Converter Adapter Compatible with N64 Wii PS2 Xbox VHS VCR Camera DVD, Support PAL/NTSC with USB Power Cable Amazon.com
 
I remember friends got me into Fidonet and we had BBS ppl parties with beer regularly (before I got in the internet). Unmatched atmosphere of discussion to this day in some sense. You can have that in the same way in the smaller groups now sure, but in big numbers - I dont think. Maybe its the way it was in Russia idk.

Honestly, HFB is quite good in this sense. Thanks to the mods and owners.
 
It is a great one.

Haven't swapped in the 4080 yet... MSI Ventus 3x 16GB. Been a few years since I've upgraded a nvidia card on the same system does one have to still uninstall the nvidia drivers then swap then install the drivers again?
It is kinda what I am recollecting.
 
That Alienware monitor is still treating me very well too. Tempted to get more of them.

GeForce Experience, maligned by some, allows for flawless replacement. Just power down, swap out the cards, and start up again. Just update the drivers in the Geforce Experience when you start up, and check that your NVIDIA Control Panel has enabled G-SYNC. You might not even need to update drivers if you have a recent update installed.

This is not an issue when going from nVidia to nVidia. It might require uninstallation if you were going from nVidia to dreaded AMD and cursed Catalyst drivers.

Not sure if you don't use GeForce Experience, though. I've had rock solid experience with it and always had the RAM to support it when gaming. I don't spend a lot of time benchmarking, so rarely strip down a system to the bare essentials.
 
That Alienware monitor is still treating me very well too. Tempted to get more of them.

GeForce Experience, maligned by some, allows for flawless replacement. Just power down, swap out the cards, and start up again. Just update the drivers in the Geforce Experience when you start up, and check that your NVIDIA Control Panel has enabled G-SYNC. You might not even need to update drivers if you have a recent update installed.

This is not an issue when going from nVidia to nVidia. It might require uninstallation if you were going from nVidia to dreaded AMD and cursed Catalyst drivers.

Not sure if you don't use GeForce Experience, though. I've had rock solid experience with it and always had the RAM to support it when gaming. I don't spend a lot of time benchmarking, so rarely strip down a system to the bare essentials.
Thx for the reply, Drake. On this kinda of stuff on this thread/topic I admit rather ask here rather than the 10 second google from an old school perspective. I do use geforce experience so this makes it easy.
 
I started Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous. If there are any old school crpg fans in here, this might be the game for you.

There were so many options at character creation my head was spinning. I hope my build is viable.
 
Arthur Morgan passed away violently this past weekend in a quiet home in Columbia Maryland. His death was witnessed by a drunk shirtless man who has a slight beer belly but hes not fat, he can still see his willie when he looks down to pee but he knows hes walking the razors edge of still drinking heavy dark beers in his forties, minimal exercise and thinking getting Cava for lunch balances that out.

This is Arthur's 9th death or 10th death.

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I just started the Callisto protocol last night. Reminds me of Dead space 3 but so far only melee weapons. It's early but I'm enjoying it
 

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