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Value of: Victor Olofsson for picks
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This might seem out there but what about a swap with the Rangers?
Vic at 50% retained drops him down to 2 mill and play him on a Rangers team looking for a quick retool back into the playoffs and could use his goal scoring.
Rosen (cheap potential top 6 option for several years on a Rangers team that needs cap relief and would have a low cost option in Rosen)
for
Goodrow (clear cap dump in several regards that the Rangers would seemingly like to get out of. Actually provides elements the Sabres need on a 4th line and can absorb his cap inflated cost especially if Okposo and/or girgensons walk)
Lindgren (I assume he'd be quicker to go than Schenider but if not they can be swapped. Essentially its Lindgren for Rosen which would save the Rangers another 2 million or so).
I don't pretend to be a mastermind of the Rangers internal budget but it seems like a deal like this would likely allow them to try and sign another free agent to add to their team as well. In a vacuum I assume the deal would look like Lindgren>Rosen but the Goodrow with his years of contract left are worse than Vic at one year and the offense he could provide for a team on the cusp added to the value of Rosen being years of cheap contribution and the potnetial of what the Rangers could do with that added cap space....
Vic at 50% retained drops him down to 2 mill and play him on a Rangers team looking for a quick retool back into the playoffs and could use his goal scoring.
Rosen (cheap potential top 6 option for several years on a Rangers team that needs cap relief and would have a low cost option in Rosen)
for
Goodrow (clear cap dump in several regards that the Rangers would seemingly like to get out of. Actually provides elements the Sabres need on a 4th line and can absorb his cap inflated cost especially if Okposo and/or girgensons walk)
Lindgren (I assume he'd be quicker to go than Schenider but if not they can be swapped. Essentially its Lindgren for Rosen which would save the Rangers another 2 million or so).
I don't pretend to be a mastermind of the Rangers internal budget but it seems like a deal like this would likely allow them to try and sign another free agent to add to their team as well. In a vacuum I assume the deal would look like Lindgren>Rosen but the Goodrow with his years of contract left are worse than Vic at one year and the offense he could provide for a team on the cusp added to the value of Rosen being years of cheap contribution and the potnetial of what the Rangers could do with that added cap space....
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Yatzhee
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Ya, that's right, I'm hiding stats that can be looked up for all to see lol.
VO did not get top PP time this year. Honestly idk how he scored so much, but he is a sniper. Sabres have about 4 of those that can slot there so he isn't necessary. That said 30ish goals and change of scenery probably a second and B prospect. We know GM's love goals.
Hierso
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Matthews + Olofsson feels kinda superfluous.
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If a team came offering a first, I would immediately call emergency services to help the GM placing the call.
Weirder things happened in the past, look at what the Lightning gave for Jeannot, or just the Habs who gave a 1st round pick for Dvorak (and I'm a Habs fan...).
Just thinking Marner is such a great playmaker and both are exceptional defensive player they can make up for Olofsson but maybe they need a someone to go in the corners.
Yeah I think fans on here don’t really realize that it will probably be even harder to move salary this off-season and we will be seeing more Bjorkstrand deals where guys go for way less than they are worth.
I think a 2nd seems about right in a normal year. He is basically a poor man’s Hoffman and Hoffman got a 2nd back in the day (although with weird circumstances).
But I just don’t see the teams out there that would pay a 2nd out there this year.
Boston 1st looks tasty. VO scores 40 for the Leafs. Replaces Nylander for $5m in cap savings (after retention).
Yum yum.
Caveat emptor.
Yum yum.
Caveat emptor.
tsujimoto74
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With all the cap space Buffalo has and VO’s contract expiring next summer, I imagine the Sabres would be able and willing to retain if they move him.
Well clearly you're hiding something because a -20 40 point winger isn't getting you a first.
DatDude44
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Fair but that is a different situation - Columbus needed to move him for salary, cap reasons related to signing gaudreau - thus is not that situation. Also, it’s pretty wide acknowledge that Colombus got burned in that trade before OB even played a minute for the kraken ….
How many times do we have to watch poor even-strength teams stumble and bumble around in the playoffs before we get away from the concept that you can just list a player's goal totals and claim they have inherent value?
I do agree in a very certain situation (likely a bad team who just needs PP scoring), Olofsson can still find a home and I don't think he's some crazy negative value commodity. But his value is certainly very, very limited as is his market. Anything positive in a trade while freeing up a spot for a more effective player in the line-up is a complete win for the Sabres.
I do agree in a very certain situation (likely a bad team who just needs PP scoring), Olofsson can still find a home and I don't think he's some crazy negative value commodity. But his value is certainly very, very limited as is his market. Anything positive in a trade while freeing up a spot for a more effective player in the line-up is a complete win for the Sabres.
Yatzhee
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I never said it was. I merely chuckled at the comment "maybe a 3rd", for a 27 yr old winger that's averaging 20 goals a seadon and just finished off a 28 goal campaign.
If the cost is low enough, Ducks could take him with no retention. Henrique/Fantilli-Zegras-Olof 2nd line? It's not like the team plays defense anyways...
tsujimoto74
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To clarify, Buffalo has absolutely 0 need to clear cap space--the point of moving Olofsson would mostly be to make room for one of Savoie/Kulich--so if we get more value by retaining, I have no reason to think we wouldn't.
Half to eat half the cap to have even a shot at that. And Sabres should do just that.
If we retain half is contract, he is easily worth a 2nd at $2.375 M.
Der Jaeger
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Have you not been following the flat cap situation? No one is sending off anything of significant value for a guy who doesn't contribute in any areas other than being spoon fed goals. He's not getting a 1st, so I'm not sure why a 3rd is hard for you to accept.
