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Vamos Rafa said:
And nobody is calling them a top class franchise. Quit putting words in my mouth, mod. I'm just admiring their ability to avoid rebuild mode.
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How about admiring their ability to have zero cups and a propensity to choke.

Don't be such a joke.

I guess I answered my last post...
 
damacles1156 said:
Would anyone take the Wings record ? Think about the Red Wings as well.

To me, they haven't been relevant since 08-09 season, yet they make the playoffs. I would argue they should have started a rebuild Five years ago.
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Exactly. They are the blackhole of playoff teams. Just good enough to get in, but not good enough to do anything. They get praised for making it year after year , yet haven't been a real contenders for close to a decade. Until last year, I'd put the Blues in along with them as a good team, but never a real contender. Still don't see the Blues as one.
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
The way you post. the bring it ron reference The creative way you post around the swearing much more If it is u mittens cool love the new positive vibe even thou i doubt it lasts if not i am sorry i said this if ur taking offense to it.
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No offense, brudda. Just hate the negativity on this forum. It's worse than my other two sports forums where ineptitude is glaring and a part of our identity.

With my other teams, I pile on with the best of em. I dream of them having the success we've had here.

So I'm on the side of cautious optimism here, and slamming people who get off by taking shots at their own discretion with no thought put into their criticism.

I also drink a lot, don't give a ****, and have a hot temper :)
 
Vamos Rafa said:
It's really sad seeing all of this pessimism but I just can't help but accept the reality. My question is, why can't we have the seemingly life-long competitiveness like the Sharks have done in the last 12 years or so?
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I can't tell if you're just ****ing with people or what. The reason that teams like San Jose are able to stay "competitive" forever is because they never get over the hump. I'll take 2 cups over a decade of playoffs failures any day, and so would most reasonable fans.

"And here we are only 4 years after our first Cup..."

Take a minute to reflect on that one.
 
Bandit said:
I can't tell if you're just ****ing with people or what. The reason that teams like San Jose are able to stay "competitive" forever is because they never get over the hump. I'll take 2 cups over a decade of playoffs failures any day, and so would most reasonable fans.

"And here we are only 4 years after our first Cup..."

Take a minute to reflect on that one.
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I got into a gnarly debate with him.

Very well put, Bandit.
 
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I hope Quick gets better soon, I'm not too bummed about it the NHL season is a long one, so I'd rather have him injured early on then close to the playoffs
 
I suppose one positive about the situation is that if Quick is out for an extended amount of time, and Zatkoff and Budaj can adequately hold the fort, then Sutter wont be able to ride Quick like a rented mule all season. He'll be fresher for when we need him at the business end of the season.

Glass half full *****es!!!!
 
Bandit said:
I can't tell if you're just ****ing with people or what. The reason that teams like San Jose are able to stay "competitive" forever is because they never get over the hump. I'll take 2 cups over a decade of playoffs failures any day, and so would most reasonable fans.

"And here we are only 4 years after our first Cup..."

Take a minute to reflect on that one.
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I never said I'd take the Sharks' fate over us. What part of admiring their competitiveness don't you guys understand?

I just can't accept these rebuild talks when our main core guys are still in their prime. It's not like Kopi, Doughty, and Quick are in their mid-to-late 30s. Until those 3 are really washed up, **** the rebuilding talks.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
I never said I'd take the Sharks' fate over us. What part of admiring their competitiveness don't you guys understand?

I just can't accept these rebuild talks when our main core guys are still in their prime. It's not like Kopi, Doughty, and Quick are in their mid-to-late 30s. Until those 3 are really washed up, **** the rebuilding talks.
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One thing the Sharks don't have to do right now is pay their top center $10m. Pavelski is obviously worth the $6m cap hit. Marleau may be slowing down, but he still hit 25 goals and almost 50 points last year, and he just turned 37. And he's got just this year left on his contract. The Kings are paying $11m on the cap for whatever Brown has become, and Gaborik who you never know if he'll be healthy, and had a whole 12 goals last year. Quite different from Pavelski and Marleau.

The Sharks are currently getting more for their money. Vlasic has a little bit higher cap hit than Martinez, but Vlasic is a top 6 guy for Team Canada, while Martinez isn't making those kind of teams. $3m less for their starting goalie. With the $3m less they pay their top center, and $3m less they pay for their #1 goalie, that's another $6m player the Sharks can have.

Burns is getting less than Doughty, and has been outplaying Doughty head to head for the last year, maybe 2 years. Although, they'll probably have to pay a little more to keep him this summer.

If the Kings hadn't won in 2012 and 2014, are all the contracts the same as they currently are? Quick? Kopitar? Brown? Gaborik? Martinez? No Cup, maybe you give up some money for the greater good. Won a Cup? I'm in the history books, so give me the money.

I wouldn't worry about the Kings actually rebuilding. Trying to fill the gaps from year to year and see if anything sticks, sure. They can't get rid of any big contracts though, and you're not rebuilding if you can't do that.
 
KingTrouty is more entertaining than Kings Hockey, yet I'm paying for four season tickets while this is free.

KT...keep doing what you are doing. You are the injection of energy to this board that most of us hoped the Kings would be receiving this season.
 
BigKing said:
KingTrouty is more entertaining than Kings Hockey, yet I'm paying for four season tickets while this is free.

KT...keep doing what you are doing. You are the injection of energy to this board that most of us hoped the Kings would be receiving this season.
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Thanks BigKing, appreciate the kind words. I'm a nice guy, but some of these dudes can't stand a newbie with a strong personality.

I've always enjoyed your well-articulated posts, so that compliment from you is high praise bro :yo:
 
ElliottTeaford: Kings GM Dean Lombardi said Jonathan Quick's injury is in the same area as a 2013 groin injury that kept him out almost two months.
 
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