A good comparable. he Will definately looking to get paid, and there will be a sucker gm who falls for it
Confirmed Trade: [VGK/STL] Ivan Barbashev for Zach Dean
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I guess Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis were 1st liner too because they played with Crosby.
Barbashev is a great player, but he's more of a 40-50 pts guy than a first liner.
If he gets 6m+, like a first line guy would, it won't age well.
I was going to bring up more examples like this but then figured it wasn’t worth it. Honestly, anyone who watches Barbashev, and surmises he’s a true top line player, is either trolling or not very knowledgeable.
It’s not a knock against him but, he doesn’t have the skills to carry a top line in the NHL. He’s a career.44 ppg player through 433 games. It will be interesting to what he gets in free agency.
Barbashev is exactly the type of player GMs overpay, and with a strong postseason run, he is probably looking at a nice payday. Good for him and I hope he gets it, but it'll probably be a bad contract from day 1.
Bluesnatic27
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I'm so happy for Barbeshev. Loved him with the Blues and hope he succeeds elsewhere.
This trade is a win for Vegas but I hope to see what Dean can do with the Blues.
This trade is a win for Vegas but I hope to see what Dean can do with the Blues.
Djp
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They have LTIR space from Lehner at $5M
11-8-1 for $80M
so 3 players for about $8.5M
if they trade Martinez at $5.25M makes it 4 players for $13M.
if they resign him and goalie for $9M and sign two 1-2M players or call up a prospect.
kp61c
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18 points in 22 playoff games for Vegas, 9 in 50 for the blues. In the right environment he will flourish, if it's not the case he will turn into a pumpkin again.
Bluesnatic27
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I mean that's true. But that could be said about 85% of the league.
Honestly, Barbie is just a versatile player because he was part of a key line that got St. Louis their first cup even if he wasn't scoring at a 65 point pace. He's not going to become a pumpkin unless he's expected to be a defensive wizard.
He can, and most likely will, be overpriced for what he brings.
Skinnyjimmy08
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One of the most underrated trades of the season.. Barbashev was awesome for VGKs run
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Yes he is. And he will get a very nice contract. My prediction is he will end up in Chicago as this is the type of player you want next to rookie Bedard to give him some support.
bert
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Id give him 5 X 5 if I am the sens GM. He is exactly what their forward group is missing. They have the skill guys they need someone to make room for them and play physical. They are way too easy to play against too he would be a big help in that regard.
A sens top 6 of
Tkachuk Stutzle Giroux
Barbashev Norris Batherson
Would be on of the best in the league. Hard to play against and skill to score.
Flip Debrincat for some picks. Go after a goalie for the difference in money. One of Varlamov, Hill, Andersen.
A sens top 6 of
Tkachuk Stutzle Giroux
Barbashev Norris Batherson
Would be on of the best in the league. Hard to play against and skill to score.
Flip Debrincat for some picks. Go after a goalie for the difference in money. One of Varlamov, Hill, Andersen.
BleedBlue14
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Most of the 50 games for the Blues was also on a 4th line with some combination of Steen/Sundqvist.
Barbashev will flourish regardless of the role you put him in. It's moreso he's played himself into a contract now where you have to put him in a situation on a scoring line because you can't afford to have a high end 3rd line checker making 5-6m/year.
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Barbs did exactly for Vegas what they hoped he would, complimented the Eichel-Marchesseault line well, while Zach Dean looks like a legit prospect that could be a long term cog in STL at center ice in most likely a 2nd/3rd line role. Feels like a win win trade, though certainly a bigger W for Vegas atm.
DatDude44
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I would've preferred Trident Layers, but that's fine i guess.
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I proposed ROR, Acciari and Barbashev to the Leafs for Kneis and a 1st and got laughed at. Things would be quite different, huh?
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Burkovsky is a great comparable so yeah 5.5x6 sounds good.
Honestly they probably would have won. Barby was underrated by everyone. Not so much anymore.
Namikaze Minato
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Pretty sure one of you dummies guaranteed us a cup with ROR on our team, now it's Barby that would have been the difference between winning a single game in the second round and a stanley cup victory over a Barby-less VGK
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From Stanley cup winner to...Chicago who is TRYING to tank? I don't think that will happen. That Chicago team will look like the island of misfit toys, and Barbashev is in his prime and will want to win.
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I don't see the difference between Barbeshev and Knies being a Stanley Cup. Knies played great when healthy and was on the ice of all of the OT winners IIRC
One of us dummies. Didn't ror perform at a high level. Yes he did. Did Noel accari play well yes he did. Get over your selfPretty sure one of you dummies guaranteed us a cup with ROR on our team, now it's Barby that would have been the difference between winning a single game in the second round and a stanley cup victory over a Barby-less VGK
Did knies have almost ppg playoffs nope.
Did knies have almost ppg playoffs nope.
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