Waived: [VGK] Golden Knights claim F Raphael Lavoie off waivers from the Oilers | Back to Waivers

[uncleben]

I'm sure it was an element covering their own butts - put two claims hoping they'll get one if not the other, and no skin off their teeth if they get both (especially with ZAR being exposed at the same time)

Though, I'm sure there's the slight relief seeing Edmonton turn around and sign another guy if they do want to try and slip Lavoie through (but Edmonton is only at 43 contracts anyway, so not that much of a limiting factor)

 

[Petes2424]

Tbh you’re looking waaaay too much into it. Wright’s contract and specific cap number is to optimize the Oilers’ cap situation with Kane LTIR

But this entire paragraph was entertaining to read lol

I’m not “looking”, or “reading into” anything at all. Lol.

It’s what they’re actually trying to do AGAIN..

Lavoie was literally put back on waivers today, with the intentions of him reporting to Henderson IF he clears. They never had any intentions of him playing in Vegas this week.

It’s flat out what their plan was, and it worked last year with Denisenko.

This is the shrewdest front office in the league..

They knew exactly what they were doing, and I’ll wager today, they’ll do it again next year to someone else. It’s a move we used to see years and years ago, but managers became too nice over the years.

They have nothing to lose trying to improve their AHL squad again this year, trying the same move that worked last year.

This was 100% planned.

We’re now gonna find out how much Edmonton really likes Lavoie or not. Teams have internal limits, contract plans, etc, etc. Vegas is banking that the Oilers signing of Wright yesterday, was only done because Vegas claimed Lavoie, so they gave HIS contract to Wright.

We’ll find out tomorrow. The Oilers already showed they were willing to put him on waivers and lose him. Are they now willing to have an extra contract, just to have him play in Bakersfield? We’ll see.

I think it’s great. GM warfare used to be fun like this. Back in the day, managers wouldn’t reclaim a player, even if they wanted to. They weren’t gonna let their rival GM dictate a personnel move. In this case, the reactionary signing of Wright, and I guarantee whoever Vegas tries doing this to next year, probably won’t be handing out an extra contract so fast. At least not for a few days. Lol.

The NHLPA loves it too. An extra player got an NHL contract out of this, if Edmonton reclaims Lavoie. This entire carrying of 43-45 players rather than 48-50, is a major concern for the NHLPA.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I’m not “looking”, or “reading into” anything at all. Lol.

It’s what they’re actually trying to do AGAIN..

Lavoie was literally put back on waivers today, with the intentions of him reporting to Henderson IF he clears. They never had any intentions of him playing in Vegas this week.

It’s flat out what their plan was, and it worked last year with Denisenko.

This is the shrewdest front office in the league..

They knew exactly what they were doing, and I’ll wager today, they’ll do it again next year to someone else. It’s a move we used to see years and years ago, but managers became too nice over the years.

They have nothing to lose trying to improve their AHL squad again this year, trying the same move that worked last year.

This was 100% planned.

We’re now gonna find out how much Edmonton really likes Lavoie or not. Teams have internal limits, contract plans, etc, etc. Vegas is banking that the Oilers signing of Wright yesterday, was only done because Vegas claimed Lavoie, so they gave HIS contract to Wright.

We’ll find out tomorrow. The Oilers already showed they were willing to put him on waivers and lose him. Are they now willing to have an extra contract, just to have him play in Bakersfield? We’ll see.

I think it’s great. GM warfare used to be fun like this. Back in the day, managers wouldn’t reclaim a player, even if they wanted to. They weren’t gonna let their rival GM dictate a personnel move. In this case, the reactionary signing of Wright, and I guarantee whoever Vegas tries doing this to next year, probably won’t be handing out an extra contract so fast. At least not for a few days. Lol.

The NHLPA loves it too. An extra player got an NHL contract out of this, if Edmonton reclaims Lavoie. This entire carrying of 43-45 players rather than 48-50, is a major concern for the NHLPA.

This is a whole lot of words for "Vegas put in two claims and didn't expect to get both but now I want them AND me to sound like 2000 IQ geniouses".

 

[Dakine]

Vegas did this on purpose and it’s pretty sneaky actually. They target a player, and if they get him late in the waiver line, they’re hoping the team they claimed the player from, will make a reactionary signing immediately. Which Edmonton did. Then they think they won’t reclaim him, and they’ll add an AHL player with upside.

They did this same exact thing with Denisenko last year, and everyone expected Florida would reclaim him as well, but chose NOT to.

Edmonton did hand his contract to AHLer Cameron Wright yesterday as well.

So Vegas is playing games, thinking because Edmonton signed Wright yesterday, in what they think was a reactionary move to losing Lavoie, they’re banking on the Oilers now NOT reclaiming him, and don’t expect anyone else to either.

It’s a sneaky thing to do, but looks like the Oilers may have given his internal contract away already. We’ll find out tomorrow.

The Oilers only have 44

I’m not “looking”, or “reading into” anything at all. Lol.

It’s what they’re actually trying to do AGAIN..

Lavoie was literally put back on waivers today, with the intentions of him reporting to Henderson IF he clears. They never had any intentions of him playing in Vegas this week.

It’s flat out what their plan was, and it worked last year with Denisenko.

This is the shrewdest front office in the league..

They knew exactly what they were doing, and I’ll wager today, they’ll do it again next year to someone else. It’s a move we used to see years and years ago, but managers became too nice over the years.

They have nothing to lose trying to improve their AHL squad again this year, trying the same move that worked last year.

This was 100% planned.

We’re now gonna find out how much Edmonton really likes Lavoie or not. Teams have internal limits, contract plans, etc, etc. Vegas is banking that the Oilers signing of Wright yesterday, was only done because Vegas claimed Lavoie, so they gave HIS contract to Wright.

We’ll find out tomorrow. The Oilers already showed they were willing to put him on waivers and lose him. Are they now willing to have an extra contract, just to have him play in Bakersfield? We’ll see.

I think it’s great. GM warfare used to be fun like this. Back in the day, managers wouldn’t reclaim a player, even if they wanted to. They weren’t gonna let their rival GM dictate a personnel move. In this case, the reactionary signing of Wright, and I guarantee whoever Vegas tries doing this to next year, probably won’t be handing out an extra contract so fast. At least not for a few days. Lol.

The NHLPA loves it too. An extra player got an NHL contract out of this, if Edmonton reclaims Lavoie. This entire carrying of 43-45 players rather than 48-50, is a major concern for the NHLPA.

Wright was signed to maximize the LTIR pool. No other reason. With Wright and Savoie sent down and Dermott signed, the Oilers have over a million in cap space available and 21 players on the active roster.

They also have 5 contract slots available and can send Lavoie directly to Bakersfeild. Any other team that claims him has to keep him on a NHL roster. The Oilers can fit him on the main roster or send him to the AHL and have the space to do either.

They also have a billionaire owner who didn't give a rats ass about signing Josh Brown to a 3 year x 1 million contract to play in the AHL, and certainly doesn't care about paying Lavoie $775000. I'm sure there are teams that would not want to add another player and another $750K. The Oilers are not one of them.

Vegas claimed two players and only has space for 1 of them. That's all that really happened.

 

[Three On Zero]

So much for my Vegas Lavoie Jersey

 

[Figgy44]

So much for my Vegas Lavoie Jersey

C'est La'voie.

 

[Three On Zero]

Vegas claims Lavoie
Vegas to Lavoie “tell us about McDavid”
Lavoie to Vegas “get bent”
Lavoie back to waivers

 

[ForsbergForever]

So Oilers lose Broberg, Holloway, and Lavoie for nothing. That's not exactly a clinic on asset management...

 

[Frank the Tank]

So Oilers lose Broberg, Holloway, and Lavoie for nothing. That's not exactly a clinic on asset management...

That's not a true statement, even if one doesn't consider the value of cap space.

 

[Brodeur]

So Oilers lose Broberg, Holloway, and Lavoie for nothing. That's not exactly a clinic on asset management...

Lavoie was on waivers last season too. Plenty of late first / early second rounders from the 2019 draft just went on waivers in the past week, so I think you're making it seem like a bigger deal than it is. Similar statement would be like criticizing Florida for losing Grigori Denisenko for nothing, but I would think most of their fans didn't lose much sleep over that one; Vegas also claimed Denisenko and immediately waived him in order to get him onto their AHL roster.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Vegas did this on purpose and it’s pretty sneaky actually. They target a player, and if they get him late in the waiver line, they’re hoping the team they claimed the player from, will make a reactionary signing immediately. Which Edmonton did. Then they think they won’t reclaim him, and they’ll add an AHL player with upside.

They did this same exact thing with Denisenko last year, and everyone expected Florida would reclaim him as well, but chose NOT to.

Edmonton did hand his contract to AHLer Cameron Wright yesterday as well.

So Vegas is playing games, thinking because Edmonton signed Wright yesterday, in what they think was a reactionary move to losing Lavoie, they’re banking on the Oilers now NOT reclaiming him, and don’t expect anyone else to either.

It’s a sneaky thing to do, but looks like the Oilers may have given his internal contract away already. We’ll find out tomorrow.

Edmonton’s playing its own games though. The Wright deal is fully buriable and by having him on the roster for opening day, they come as close to maxing out their LTIR benefit as they can. Lavoie’s deal didn’t get them as close as they wanted and they sent him down before they signed Wright. Wright wasn’t some panic signing from losing Lavoie. Something would have to go horrifically wrong for him to see NHL minutes. He got 952 and change because Edmonton had 952053 in cap space.