Pre-Game Talk: Vegas vs Ottawa

Gil Gunderson

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The Waffler

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I thunk Ullmark will get lit up again :(

There’s no point in thinking negative thoughts like that. It’s manifesting bad feelings over something that hasn’t happened yet or may never even happen. I suggest taking on a more positive approach in not only sports, but life as well.

I pray you find happiness.
 

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There’s no point in thinking negative thoughts like that. It’s manifesting bad feelings over something that hasn’t happened yet or may never even happen. I suggest taking on a more positive approach in not only sports, but life as well.

I pray you find happiness.
Sometimes the dog just can't hunt
 
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Tuna99

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Vegas is a big bruising team and I think that’ll help Ottawa because playing big is a preset Ottawa know they can play big, they seem to struggle trying to play with faster teams when the pregame mentality is overall team speed. So a good matchup culture wise for them tonight

Expecting a win, not a pretty one, a somehow, someway win with lots of desperation.
 

Xspyrit

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Vegas' underlying numbers aren't very good, their goalies aren't playing well, they're missing Stone, and they played last night. I'm pretty sure this is the stuff that goes into betting odds.

Of course that stuff doesn't seem to matter much when it comes to the Sens.

That's because our team has been built by an altruist (see my avatar). Even though society has realized that altruism can't exist (it's prosocial behaviors), the Ottawa Senators are the exception to the rule (again, see my avatar). We love to help others and help them turn things around. We're that generous.

Maybe it's time to become selfish assholes and think about ourselves only.


About time for JBD, it was always the right choice

Another choice I talked about before, didn't like how we didn't come back with Forsberg in the 2 games after Forsberg posted a shutout
 

Bjornar Moxnes

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Vegas is a big bruising team and I think that’ll help Ottawa because playing big is a preset Ottawa know they can play big, they seem to struggle trying to play with faster teams when the pregame mentality is overall team speed. So a good matchup culture wise for them tonight

Expecting a win, not a pretty one, a somehow, someway win with lots of desperation.
Plus Vegas' goalies struggle against the Sens cycle play, whereas we can talk about finishing being an issue which I do agree is, but Skinner and heck even Spencer Martin specifically do well against the Sens cycle offense.
 
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ottawah

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The Sens are the favorite at -162 why?
Lines are about splitting the bets 50/50, not predicting winners. Bookies could not care less who wins the game, as long as they can get 50% to bet on one team and 50% to bet on the other, they are the real winner.
 

WallyD

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That's because our team has been built by an altruist (see my avatar). Even though society has realized that altruism can't exist (it's prosocial behaviors), the Ottawa Senators are the exception to the rule (again, see my avatar). We love to help others and help them turn things around. We're that generous.

Maybe it's time to become selfish assholes and think about ourselves only.


About time for JBD, it was always the right choice

Another choice I talked about before, didn't like how we didn't come back with Forsberg in the 2 games after Forsberg posted a shutout
You nailed it, and struck a raw nerve! Well done! :)

The Sens are more generous than good ole St Nick. They are the proverbial gift that keeps on giving! For just shy of forever, Ottawa has been the NHL's slump buster. They constantly make Venzina caliber goalies out of no-names, so Gord Wilson can break blood vessles raving wildly about each one's 2nd coming. Coincidentally the Sens possess the inverse power too, an inate ability to turn actual Vezina winning/caliber goalies into trash. As frustrating and productive as trying to staple porridge to the wall!

I have no idea why Ottawa is able to get up for big teams and yet subsequently crap the bed against expected win / bad teams. It's an ugly long terms trend, the sign of a very immature team, but it does explain why they have not made the playoffs for so many years. The winning formula does not involve throwing away expected wins while wildly celebrating the odd win against a powerhouse team. It has been this way for so long that (to me) it points to an issue with team construction, poor chemistry. Something is not right, not around the edges they keep nibbling at but in the core they refuse to touch. We can debate where exactly that issue is, but I believe the core is the issue. Of course, better teams and players experience this issue, but for them it is short term and early. They rise above it with experience, get better, grow, become far more dependable and predictable. They do not stagnate, get stuck in neutral forever with no forward progress measurable in results, not projections, expectations or prayers. This team is fast running out of runway with this iteration of rebuild. Some might argue that door has already closed (not me). An old adage is key here... defiition of insanity is continuing to do the same things while expecting different results. It is time for some difficult decisions, culture changes.

Ok... deep breathe now WallyD... :)
 
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frightenedinmatenum2

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I sometimes do this too.

I save a really rude PSN message for YEARS, then years later, I reply "No, you're the one who is trash!".

Honestly, it's worth it.

The person who sent it is living a completely different life than when they originally sent it to me. So you see such a negative reflection of their past self, it really messed with some people.
 
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WallyD

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You missed the X factor: they got shutout last night.
Bingo... nothing more fun and rewarding than trying to stuff a bitter pissed-off animal into a burlap sack! Vegas are not going to be happy campers, zero Sens risk there! It will be fun to watch, to see which version of each team shows up. Enjoy!

Btw - Awesome handle! Do you stop posting near end of season to make room for other commenters? :)
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell

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I sometimes do this too.

I save a really rude PSN message for YEARS, then years later, I reply "No, you're the one who is trash!".

Honestly, it's worth it.

The person who sent it is living a completely different life than when they originally sent it to me. So you see such a negative reflection of their past self, it really messed with some people.
Well, stop with the f***ing glitch goals, dude. I told you the first time.
 

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