Post-Game Talk: Vegas 4 - WPG 3

surixon

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Didn't get to see this one, but sounds like a better game by the Jets but not quite enough

This stretch of schedule is brutal

Right now we're in a stretch of 22 in 44 nights with 16 flights mixed in

Anyone who hasn't played a sport at a high level can't understand how that schedule and travel affects your body. For example, I used to be next to useless if we bussed and played on the same day.

Yes, all teams go through it. There will be nights where we catch teams not at their best. It's not a fluke that Florida dominated us down there and then got their asses kicked when they came to Winnipeg. Exact same two teams, just the scenario was reversed

Agreed, it's as much the constant traveling the last couple of weeks as it is the games.
 

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Only watched about half the game, but what I saw was very good.
If the Jets lose and you didn't see the game NEVER come on here to get the real story because the Debbie Downer flood the board with negativity.
The Barron / Stanley miscue keeps being mentioned but that was in the 1st period ... the game was tied 3-3 with 5 mins left. The last 2 mins Jets did every but score ... the game could have gone either way.
Two things I noticed in the game ... VGK scouted the Jets. Vegas had their wingers playing close to the Jets D in their DZ they anticipated and were ready for the quick passes.
The second thing about Vegas which every team should know by now is their big defensemen play a small 4 man box w/ 2 forwards in front of their net when there's pressure making it impossible to get a pass through or a rebound. Notice all 3 goals the Jets scored the pucks were shot from way out not close in.
 
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Yeah that play was not on Stan at all!

Is Coghlan actually...pretty good? Dude has some serious offense I wasn't expecting. Not sure if it is him starting out on the right foot or if this could be what we have? But he looked really good to me.
I really liked his game. A couple of mistakes but he looked capable in all zones. I think he earned some more eyes.

This graph says A LOT and actually makes me feel better. Thanks for posting!
 

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We all seem to know what we have in Stanley obviously for whatever reasons the coaching staff seems to think he can play at this level. As for Heinola we have no idea what he can do so far in his short NHL career. Need to see him for a longer stretch before we can write him off. I get it because of his size some have written him off and he might never become anything but he needs to get a fair shot
I think the coaching staff will manage his minutes considering what he's been through. I really don't think he was scratched due to play. I think he'll be in and out of the lineup and hopefully he can get up to speed and make it impossible to scratch him
 

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So, my hot take is that actually I saw a lot of good in the game yesterday in the second and third period. There was obviously some terrible chances given up and too many high danger chances against, but I feel like the team is trending the right direction despite the loss in the last couple periods. I'm going to wait until tomorrow to decide where this team is going, but if they keep up the effort in the second and third, it should be better.
 

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If the Jets lose and you didn't see the game NEVER come on here to get the story because the Debbie Downer flood the board with negativity.
The Barron / Stanley miscue keeps being mentioned but that was in the 1st period ... the game was tied 3-3 with 5 mins left. The last 2 mins Jets did every but score ... the game could have gone either way.
Two things I noticed in the game ... VGK scouted the Jets. Vegas had their wingers playing close to the Jets D in their DZ they anticipated and were ready for the quick passes.
The second thing about Vegas which every team should know is their big defensemen play a small 4 man box in front of their when there's pressure making it impossible to get a pass through or a rebound. Notice all 3 goals the Jets scored the pucks were shot from way out not close in.
Yes, scouting is a thing. I would venture a guess that most if not all teams who have played or are going to play the Jets have or will have scouted them in person or with readily available video. I think that most on this board know that pressure on the Jets D in their zone is a pretty good strategy.
 
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I think the coaching staff will manage his minutes considering what he's been through. I really don't think he was scratched due to play. I think he'll be in and out of the lineup and hopefully he can get up to speed and make it impossible to scratch him
During the GDT someone thought that they gave Heinola the night off to see how his leg would react to game action, I think I agree with that. I saw no serious flaws in his game.
 

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So, my hot take is that actually I saw a lot of good in the game yesterday in the second and third period. There was obviously some terrible chances given up and too many high danger chances against, but I feel like the team is trending the right direction despite the loss in the last couple periods. I'm going to wait until tomorrow to decide where this team is going, but if they keep up the effort in the second and third, it should be better.
Damn, I was really looking forward to the promised "dramatic". :laugh:
 

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I think the coaching staff will manage his minutes considering what he's been through. I really don't think he was scratched due to play. I think he'll be in and out of the lineup and hopefully he can get up to speed and make it impossible to scratch him

Yeah, that is my thoughts as well. I also suspect who we play will play a role in this. They likely thought they needed more size against Vegas. If guess we see Stanley against Dallas and St. Louis next week as well. Ville likely gets back in against the Sabres and Hawks as his puck movement and mobility would probably be more beneficial.
 

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and that's not what you claimed which is moving goal posts, they deserved to wins majority of their games this season, they are good enough to be an 18-6 team, you are claiming you are being realistic when you are just being overly negative, you have been claiming we have been bad all season long and anytime we have struggled you jump in here to try and pat yourself on the back
Dude , I am not on trial here but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I have not said they are bad all year but at 3-5 over the last 8 and looking ar times like the team that lost in the playoffs has me concerned that the hot start was not sustainable and it looks like it is not. I will not stop coming on here to.voice my opinion just because people like you get offended. I am a season ticket holder since their return and have watchrd my fair share of hockey to know what is up. I am not inside the room nor do I have insider info but listen to Craig Button last night. He basically said what I have been saying for a couple weeks now. I am enjoy the fact you challenge me and won't back down. We are both passionate fans with opinions and that is better than the alternative. Let's hope for a win tomorrow but I am saying it now that they only win if Helly stands on his head and they lose to St.lou because they rarely win the first home game after a road trip. Cheers buddy!

Long season
Highs and lows happen
To the team and to this board.
This board is hilarious in the highs and the lows, not Toronto like but entertaining just the same.
A little rest eventually will help this club.
Well said! I tend to be a pessimist and realistic. No sandburg, scheif and Ehlers hurt..this could get worse before it gets better
 
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Dude , I am not on trial here but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I have not said they are bad all year but at 3-5 over the last 8 and looking ar times like the team that lost in the playoffs has me concerned that the hot start was not sustainable and it looks like it is not. I will not stop coming on here to.voice my opinion just because people like you get offended. I am a season ticket holder since their return and have watchrd my fair share of hockey to know what is up. I am not inside the room nor do I have insider info but listen to Craig Button last night. He basically said what I have been saying for a couple weeks now. I am enjoy the fact you challenge me and won't back down. We are both passionate fans with opinions and that is better than the alternative. Let's hope for a win tomorrow but I am saying it now that they only win if Helly stands on his head and they lose to St.lou because they rarely win the first home game after a road trip. Cheers buddy!


Well said! I tend to be a pessimist and realistic. No sandburg, scheif and Ehlers hurt..this could get worse before it gets better
no shit a 15-1 start isn't sustainable who the hell thinks it was? you have called this team a bubble team called them fruads, you predict losses on pretty much every game etc
 

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Lambert is the natural fit in terms of style of play. I'd be giving him a look. We are already down a decent amount if skill with Fly out and Scheife banged up and clearly playing below his capabilities
Looking at Lamberts career it looks like he gets depressed or something to that effect, I'm sure I'm missing the word I want to use,but let's boost his confidence with a call up and maybe get his head straightened out because something isn't clicking with him.i mean what can it hurt gus is a I don't know but he ain't good and ajf is like gus.I've heard in years past that being on a losing team in the middle of a Manitoba winter can be a real drag on your emotions,is that going to be the mindset in the moose dressing room, I get you want guys that take pride in playing and thriving in the green bay of the north but we're in an age we're i have met guys in junior that never practiced outdoor even in house league.any way let Lambert have a Crack.
 

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Pretty sure we don't see Nik for a while. Fefe is certainly nursing something, Vladdy has taken a beating lately and Demelo is off counting his money.
Haven't been able to watch many games lately but saw the replay. It looked like a minor sprain to the outside of his ankle--few games is my guess.
 

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no shit a 15-1 start isn't sustainable who the hell thinks it was? you have called this team a bubble team called them fruads, you predict losses on pretty much every game etc
What is your point? I do not think this team as built is more than a round 1 playoff team. They are a good regular season team when the games are loose and free but if the opponent takes away the middle of the ice and keeps the Jets from getting inside on offence the Jets typically lose and/or helly has to stand on his head.
You seem to tee off on those that do not wear Jets colored glasses. I refuse to be a cheerleader for a team that has done zippoohhh in the playoffs but for one decent run in 12 years.

I appreciate having a team and support it by going to games but it does not mean I cannot be critical or voice my opinion specifically on a fan forum meant for discussion and venting or celebrating when necessary.
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What is your point? I do not think this team as built is more than a round 1 playoff team. They are a good regular season team when the games are loose and free but if the opponent takes away the middle of the ice and keeps the Jets from getting inside on offence the Jets typically lose and/or helly has to stand on his head.
You seem to tee off on those that do not wear Jets colored glasses. I refuse to be a cheerleader for a team that has done zippoohhh in the playoffs but for one decent run in 12 years.

I appreciate having a team and support it by going to games but it does not mean I cannot be critical or voice my opinion specifically on a fan forum meant for discussion and venting or celebrating when necessary.
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Absolutely bitch away if you want, it's a opinion board. But don't you think playing so many games in a row on the road has something to do with what you are saying is a drop in play? Jets were 15-1 before this road trip from hell started and i don't think they were stealing wins to get to 15-1.
 

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