Proposal: Various proposals

[AvsGuy]

C Tomas Plekanec ($6.0/2yr)
C David Desharnais ($3.5/1yr)
D Nathan Beaulieu ($1.0/1yr then RFA)




C Ryan Nugent Hopkins ($6.0/5yr)
D Mark Fayne ($3.25/2yr)

Rationale: Edmonton is set with McDavid and Draisaitl at center, and Plekanec would be a short-term expensive but ideal option at 3C, while Beaulieu would round out their defense nicely. Montreal takes the 5 year plunge on Nugent-Hopkins at 2C, and adds some mediocre depth in Fayne. The long term pieces for each team here are Beaulieu and RNH.

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D Andrew MacDonald ($5.0/4yr)
C Nick Cousins ($0.84/1yr then RFA)
2nd round pick in 2017




C/LW Jacob Josefson ($1.1/1yr then RFA)


Rationale: Philadelphia gets some wiggle room under the cap and Josefson can capably slot in at 3C or 4C for the time being. New Jersey has the room for a 29yo capable NHL defensemen on a crappy contract, and picks up a decent prospect and pick for their trouble.

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RW Dustin Brown ($5.9/6yr)
1st round pick in 2017
2nd round pick in 2018



LW Jussi Jokinen ($4.0/2yr)
D Jakub Kindl ($2.0/1yr)


Rationale: Brown's contract is god awful, but his winning experience isn't, and the Panthers could bear the contractual weight with the 2 players they're trading anyways and benefit from Brown's pedigree - he's still only 31, and they get some solid draft picks to boot. LA gets out from under that albatross long-term at the cost of those picks, and adds some veteran talent short term.

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LW/RW Gustav Nyquist ($4.75/3yr)
G Jimmy Howard ($5.3/3yr)
2nd round pick in 2017




G Eddie Lack ($2.75/2yr)
D Brett Pesce ($0.8/2yr then RFA)


Rationale: Detroit seems to be in a bad way cap-wise, and the losses in talent of Nyquist and Howard are ones they can afford. Carolina has the cap room to absorb Detroit's players and could use the edge in talent the trade offers.

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Bear in mind that I'm pretty clueless about NMCs, positions and team needs in general because I mostly don't care

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[MMC]

C Tomas Plekanec ($6.0/2yr)
C David Desharnais ($3.5/1yr)
D Nathan Beaulieu ($1.0/1yr then RFA)




C Ryan Nugent Hopkins ($6.0/5yr)
D Mark Fayne ($3.25/2yr)

Rationale: Edmonton is set with McDavid and Draisaitl at center, and Plekanec would be a short-term expensive but ideal option at 3C, while Beaulieu would round out their defense nicely. Montreal takes the 5 year plunge on Nugent-Hopkins at 2C, and adds some mediocre depth in Fayne. The long term pieces for each team here are Beaulieu and RNH.

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D Andrew MacDonald ($5.0/4yr)
C Nick Cousins ($0.84/1yr then RFA)
2nd round pick in 2017




C/LW Jacob Josefson ($1.1/1yr then RFA)


Rationale: Philadelphia gets some wiggle room under the cap and Josefson can capably slot in at 3C or 4C for the time being. New Jersey has the room for a 29yo capable NHL defensemen on a crappy contract, and picks up a decent prospect and pick for their trouble.

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RW Dustin Brown ($5.9/6yr)
1st round pick in 2017
2nd round pick in 2018



LW Jussi Jokinen ($4.0/2yr)
D Jakub Kindl ($2.0/1yr)


Rationale: Brown's contract is god awful, but his winning experience isn't, and the Panthers could bear the contractual weight with the 2 players they're trading anyways and benefit from Brown's pedigree - he's still only 31, and they get some solid draft picks to boot. LA gets out from under that albatross long-term at the cost of those picks, and adds some veteran talent short term.

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LW/RW Gustav Nyquist ($4.75/3yr)
G Jimmy Howard ($5.3/3yr)
2nd round pick in 2017




G Eddie Lack ($2.75/2yr)
D Brett Pesce ($0.8/2yr then RFA)


Rationale: Detroit seems to be in a bad way cap-wise, and the losses in talent of Nyquist and Howard are ones they can afford. Carolina has the cap room to absorb Detroit's players and could use the edge in talent the trade offers.

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Bear in mind that I'm pretty clueless about NMCs, positions and team needs in general because I mostly don't care

Edm, Panthers, Devils, and Canes say no I'm assuming.

 

[Legend123]

I doubt Oilers trade their only 2 way C with offense in RNH.

 

[The Rochester Rocket]

Hell no from New Jersey, that is atrocious.

 

[Yukon Joe]

I doubt Oilers trade their only 2 way C with offense in RNH.

The rumblings I've heard are that RNH is very much available at the right price.

 

[Sens Rule]

All of these are terrible and would never happen.

 

[Legend123]

The rumblings I've heard are that RNH is very much available at the right price.

meh, just rumors. They will only accept an over payment, nothing else. MTL's offer is not one.

 

[AvsGuy]

Edm, Panthers, Devils, and Canes say no I'm assuming.

You didn't really need to quote the whole thing just to say that.

Hell no from New Jersey, that is atrocious.

In what way?

All of these are terrible and would never happen.

Well at least your reasoning is valid right

 

[Bryzard of Oz]

As a Flyers fan, why on earth does New Jersey do that?

 

[crowi]

Bear in mind that I'm pretty clueless about NMCs, positions and team needs in general because I mostly don't care

No? Please don't say it's so! I don't even understand why you would make several proposals as you are absolutely clueless and don't care by your own admission.

Well at least your reasoning is valid right

I won't even comment on all these asscandies, but the proposal Florida takes Brown's contract after JUST LAST WEEK getting rid of Bolland's and paying a price for it is just so asinine.

 

[Seachd]

I don't see anything in that trade that would be appealing to the Oilers.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Oilers can do much better than that for RNH

 

[YP44]

If that's the cost for getting rid of Brown he would be bought out. I imagine the cost to get rid of him was similar to Bolland. Both had similar contracts but Brown has one more year, however Brown can actually contribute something, hey may just be 3rd line contributions but it is still something.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Flyers pass I would much rather have Cousins and the 2nd round pick.

 

[crowi]

If that's the cost for getting rid of Brown he would be bought out. I imagine the cost to get rid of him was similar to Bolland. Both had similar contracts but Brown has one more year, however Brown can actually contribute something, hey may just be 3rd line contributions but it is still something.

What??? Brown is UFA 2022 summer and Bolland is UFA 2019 summer.

 

[Baemon Severson*]

Would do A Mac at 33% retained for Lindblom and 2 2nds

 

[BatVader]

Habs laugh and hang up.

 

[jw2]

Even Eklund says these are terrible.

 

[Dabeast]

Don't want that Brown contract anywhere near the Panthers, and Jokinen fits in well as the 2LW, so no thanks.

 

[drw02]

no chance Detroit gives up a 20-25 goal scorer and a 2nd just to move a bad contract. They'll probably just buyout Howard next summer if they can't find a taker at a reasonable price. This is not close to reasonable.

 

[Chan790]

no chance Detroit gives up a 20-25 goal scorer and a 2nd just to move a bad contract. They'll probably just buyout Howard next summer if they can't find a taker at a reasonable price. This is not close to reasonable.

You may have missed it, but you're also getting an under-23, top-4 RHD in Pesce and a not-terrible goalie who probably just needs a change of scenery...the Canes goalie coach is terrible and seems to **** up everybody.

Not that I think you should do it or the Canes would do it...but you're talking like you're not getting anything back for Nyquist and Howard.

 

[Starat327]

Would do A Mac at 33% retained for Lindblom and 2 2nds

Just because the OP made a bad proposal, does that mean you have to make one equally as bad.

 

[Rufus]

That LA-Florida trade doesn't help Florida at all. Brown doesn't make them better and a late 1st and late 2nd aren't nearly enough to convince a team to take Brown

 

[Baemon Severson*]

Just because the OP made a bad proposal, does that mean you have to make one equally as bad.

Andrew MacDonald is AHL fodder and likely wouldnt make the Devils. He is beyond horrid. 2 seconds and a top 9 forward prospect like Lindblom isnt asking a ton.

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

C Tomas Plekanec ($6.0/2yr)
C David Desharnais ($3.5/1yr)
D Nathan Beaulieu ($1.0/1yr then RFA)




C Ryan Nugent Hopkins ($6.0/5yr)
D Mark Fayne ($3.25/2yr)

Rationale: Edmonton is set with McDavid and Draisaitl at center, and Plekanec would be a short-term expensive but ideal option at 3C, while Beaulieu would round out their defense nicely. Montreal takes the 5 year plunge on Nugent-Hopkins at 2C, and adds some mediocre depth in Fayne. The long term pieces for each team here are Beaulieu and RNH.

Oilers don't need Beauleu, don't care about Desharnais, prefer RNH over Plekanec... Canadiens don't care about RNH since we prefer Galchenyuk, Fayne is a useless throw in to us, losing Beaulieu hurts more to us than it helps them.

This is not a realistic trade for either team.