Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations

[Agent Zuuuub]

Highligh packages are a trash way to get a feel for a game, I think it was the Bos and leafs games where the extended highlights for both games skipped the third period entirely.

The Canes dominated the first 10 mins of the game, the rest of the game was pretty even with the Sens having a distinct edge in the third.

The problem with the eye test is it tends to be impacted by emotions (especially when it comes to fans of one of the teams), sens fans were primed to have a negative view of the game based on the score and the first ten mins,

This works both ways of course, so some fans will think the team played great while other believe they played poorly, truth likely pies somewhere in the middle. Fancy stats aren't perfect, but saying they don't match your eye test isn't a strong argument against them,

When a team goes up they sonetimes just sit back and don't extend for offense and close out the game without expending extra energy.

That's what the Canes did, must have showed that Ottawa played better in the stats but it was never close.

Carolina got up a couple, put the Sens in a sleeper hold. And that was game.

 

[Big Muddy]

Are we still discussing the bad calls in the game against the Canes? Yikes.

 

[Loach]

Watch it, they dance around the issue but it’s clear behind the scenes Pinto said to the podcast guys Ottawa is a dead end, more a vibes thing, watch it and let me know what you think

What segment? Help!

 

[jbeck5]

Lmao just starting and a minute in, they've referred to him as a mega star and a superstar both multiple times.


Are we talking about the same Shane pinto? He's a 3C who will eventually be a 2C.

That's not the definition I have for either mega star or super star. That would be like a top 10 player in the game or soon to be.

 

[Micklebot]

When a team goes up they sonetimes just sit back and don't extend for offense and close out the game without expending extra energy.

That's what the Canes did, must have showed that Ottawa played better in the stats but it was never close.

Carolina got up a couple, put the Sens in a sleeper hold. And that was game.

I am aware of score effect, that might have played into the third (typically it's only prominent in the second half of the third) but would not have been the case for the second. Carolina didn't get a couple until the very end of the second.

All I'm saying is people need to accept that their personal eye test is not the be all and end all of eye tests, I had a different impression of the game then you did, based on my eye test, we can't both be right, and yet here we are.

 

[Micklebot]

Are we still discussing the bad calls in the game against the Canes? Yikes.

No, nobody mentioned the calls at all, except you I guess.

 

[Tuna99]

In 32 years of existence the Ottawa senators have had 2 reliable goalies - Lalime and Anderson.

That needs to change. Some teams currently have 2 reliable goalies.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I have a hard time faulting SS when it's clear the best players on the team are the problem. Sanderson clearly isn't what we thought he could be offensively and that's a huge problem. Norris, Giroux, Grieg, Pinto, Brady, Batherson just aren't good enough as a group to lead a team offensively. Stutzle looks like the one member of the "core" that can be a premier player offensively. Ullmark appears to be a big miss, but I still make that bet every day of the week. f***ing sucks.

 

[Big Muddy]

No, nobody mentioned the calls at all, except you I guess.

Well except for #1674, 1679, and 1684. But, if its died down more recently (last couple of days), that’s progress. There’s other more pressing & topics.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I have a hard time faulting SS when it's clear the best players on the team are the problem. Sanderson clearly isn't what we thought he could be offensively and that's a huge problem. Norris, Giroux, Grieg, Pinto, Brady, Batherson just aren't good enough as a group to lead a team offensively. Stutzle looks like the one member of the "core" that can be a premier player offensively. Ullmark appears to be a big miss, but I still make that bet every day of the week. f***ing sucks.

It's not the coach?
It's not the experienced veterans that we added who are producing next to nothing?

He spent a year evaluating this team. Why didn't he add some real scoring to the roster? Why didn't he trade one of the guys in that group you mentioned?

Let's rewind a bit. Why did he, as POHO, interview no one for the GM position and then appoint himself?

There's lots of fault to assign to him.