Friedman: Vancouver trying to trade Vincent Desharnais

[KrisLeturnover]

He’s one of those players you forget exist.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Desharnais didn’t need to be “turned around”. He had a good year last year. You guys just don’t know how to utilize him I guess or make the best of his skillset

Haha this is pure nonsense

 

[BudBundy]

Hopefully Vinny (and Klim Kostin) help some of these dumb dumbs around the NHL realize that sometimes staying put for a bit less money in a great situation is better than chasing the dough. Desharnais did this to himself and I am not shocked by this outcome.

In fairness to Vinny, the man is 28 and toiled in the minors FOREVER. You simply cannot fault a guy for taking an offer that’s a full million higher than he could’ve got in Edmonton. A late career guy who’s constantly on the bubble cannot turn that down.

Agreed on Kostin though. He could’ve done some good things in Edmonton and really set himself up for a big payday.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Well, I've legit never watched him play (well, I've watched hockey games in which he's gotten minutes, but never actually noticed him whatsoever), but I do have an account at HockeyViz...

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...and that makes it look like he can be described as "G-ddamn, that boy sure can clear the crease! ...dunno if he can do anything else at all, but he for sure clears the crease!"

I imagine that would have value to somebody somewhere.

Your analysis is accurate. He absolutely can clear the crease. There isn't much else he can do, but he can absolutely clear the crease.

 

[Johnsie19]

Ruthervin has done an outstanding job here but yea, really hated that signing the moment it was announced

It was a head scratcher given he signed him for two yr at 2 mil when he hadn't even established himself as a full time NHL.

The Canucks are going to be trading for a Dman anyway. Whoever they trade for can take Desharnais back to fill the void hopefully.

 

[Three On Zero]

Hopefully Vinny (and Klim Kostin) help some of these dumb dumbs around the NHL realize that sometimes staying put for a bit less money in a great situation is better than chasing the dough. Desharnais did this to himself and I am not shocked by this outcome.

Why? These bubble guys need to secure their future beyond hockey. A couple extra million means more than having your name on the cup and being broke.

 

[joestevens29]

In fairness to Vinny, the man is 28 and toiled in the minors FOREVER. You simply cannot fault a guy for taking an offer that’s a full million higher than he could’ve got in Edmonton. A late career guy who’s constantly on the bubble cannot turn that down.

Agreed on Kostin though. He could’ve done some good things in Edmonton and really set himself up for a big payday.

Ya all of 120ish games in ahl

 

[PullHard]

For Holl 1 for 1

 

[BudBundy]

Ya all of 120ish games in ahl

Are you seriously saying he didn’t have a long road to get the the NHL??

 

[joestevens29]

Are you seriously saying he didn’t have a long road to get the the NHL??

Not much different than any other prospect that goes the college route

 

[BudBundy]

Not much different than any other prospect that goes the college route

Just your typical guy who plays 4 years NCAA, a full season in the ECHL, then a split season ECHL/AHL then establishes himself as a NHLer at the tender age of 27 hey?

 

[joestevens29]

Just your typical guy who plays 4 years NCAA, a full season in the ECHL, then a split season ECHL/AHL then establishes himself as a NHLer at the tender age of 27 hey?

Umm ya that’s generally what happens with college prospects that spend 4 years in college

That’s if they even make it

 

[JPeeper]

He’s one of those players you forget exist.

Except when he plays, then you're like, "how is this guy in the NHL, he's one of the worst players I have ever watched".

 

[BudBundy]

Umm ya that’s generally what happens with college prospects that spend 4 years in college

That’s if they even make it

“Vincent Desharnais poised to make debut with Edmonton Oilers - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

“He’s 26 and has taken the long road to the NHL. He was drafted in the seventh round, 183rd overall in 2016. He played in the NCAA before turning pro in 2019. Desharnais admits he heard a lot of people tell him he’d never make it.”

 

[David Bruce Banner]

He skates like an upside-down Coke bottle, but at least, he's not a total detriment on the PK.

 

[Three On Zero]

He skates like an upside-down Coke bottle, but at least, he's not a total detriment on the PK.

Only because he doesn’t need to move much

 

[McFlyingV]

Still shocked Oilers traded Kesselring but kept Ceci and Desharnais.

That trade isn't really related at all to keeping them, but I do agree I didn't love giving up Kesselring for a Bjugstad rental.

 

[snipes]

Oh you mean Ceci and Desharnais weren't actually the pillars of the Oilers D? I see Edmonton is in the top 8 again this year in best goals against as they were last year under Knoblaugh. Big shock. Nurse is having a very nice bounce back season freed of pylons like Desharnais and Ceci.

This. Nurse has been fantastic this year.

 

[Nucker42]

Triple confirmed, team wanting to move him according to the Fridge.

Mentioned they wanted draft capital initially but are now open to anything.

This. Nurse has been fantastic this year.

The bar has been low, he’s been awful for several years. He’s now playing average and well below his contract. It’s an illusion.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Triple confirmed, team wanting to move him according to the Fridge.

Mentioned they wanted draft capital initially but are now open to anything.


The bar has been low, he’s been awful for several years. He’s now playing average and well below his contract. It’s an illusion.

Draft capital ?

 

[Bank Shot]

I'm not surprised at all that Vinny isn't working out in Vancouver. He worked in Edmonton in a very specific role - #6 shut down defenseman, and net front PK precense. He isn't really an NHL defenseman, he was in the best possible situation he could have been in last year, and was still a 6/7 who only received regular ice time because the Oilers had nobody else to clear the front of the net outside of Ekholm. Emberson looks much better as the #6 than Desharnais did. I wouldn't mind bringing him back, but it would need to be at 50% salary, and I wouldn't give up anything of value to get him. That's the dollar figure he should have been signed for in the summer. I'm glad he got his life changing payday, but I wouldn't want the Oil to be paying that much for him. The Desharnais at 50% for Josh Brown suggestion was exactly fair to me.

I argued with more than a few Oilers fans that wanted to re-sign Vinny for up to $2 million per season last regular season when the Oilers were really rolling.

He was a fan favorite for sure, and overvalued by a pretty big chunk of the fan base.

I'm glad management saw him for what he was. He's replacement level. I'm glad he got his money though. Seems like a good dude, and he never gave up on the NHL dream.

 

[David71]

Triple confirmed, team wanting to move him according to the Fridge.

Mentioned they wanted draft capital initially but are now open to anything.


The bar has been low, he’s been awful for several years. He’s now playing average and well below his contract. It’s an illusion.

just a draft pick is fine or "future considerations"

 

[Qwijibo]

just a draft pick is fine or "future considerations"

Vancouver will be incredibly fortunate if they can dump him without adding an asset to him.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Vancouver will be incredibly fortunate if they can dump him without adding an asset to him.

It's simple to me. Desharnais at 50% for Josh Brown. Both teams get rid of a guy who is not working and try out someone else.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

It's simple to me. Desharnais at 50% for Josh Brown. Both teams get rid of a guy who is not working and try out someone else.

How does this help us, exactly? We'd just paying your throwaway the same as if we put VinnyD on waivers. Better to see if he gets picked up than try yet another throw in. We have plenty of those already.