Quinn at 14 then is the equivalent of 11 mil now. Quinn’s easily worth that
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Quinn at 14 then is the equivalent of 11 mil now. Quinn’s easily worth that
You can’t compare a contract signed on a 82.5 mil cap to a 113.5 mil cap. Also Fox signed during a period where the cap was very flat vs Quinn who will be signing during a time where the cap will likely be rising every year
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Fox signed his contract nearly 4 years ago, and was a 23 year old RFA
Quinn's contract won't start til he is 27. These things are not comparable at all.
Sure they are not saying it needs to match maybe a million or two more but 5 to six just because cap increases is insane....
Definitely not to the Devils he is not and really to any team.....Cap increase I can see adding a a bump of 1 to 2 million but not 14 million agree to disagree...Same as Leon D that is crazy money for Quinn Hughes
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14 million in UFA on quinn hughes in 3 years would be an absolute bargain you'd be stupid to pass on.
BleedBlue14
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The cap is taking over a 25% jump. Nearly a 33.3% jump. Fox also had RFA years factored in Hughes doesn’t. Anything less than 14 is a bargain. And frankly if we’re judging off Dahlin 14.5 is comparable and Dahlin also wasn’t a UFA and also not a Norris winner nor top 3 in the Norris for the last 3 years.
Best comparable is probably Karlssons contract with the Sharks.
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brother a 23 year old RFA contract in 2021 is not comparable at all to a 26/27 year old (technically UFA) contract
they are miles different.
BleedBlue14
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Did the math for fun. Comparable to Karlsson would be about 15.8m AAV adjust to a possible 112,500,00 cap.
Yeah that lines up.
I'd offer him 16 as a UFA in a heartbeat to get him without having to give up any other assets.
People underrate the value of stars because a TON of stars sign long term deals as first time RFAs that immediately become super bargains immediately (and so few actually hit UFA)
Trying to compare RFA contracts to UFA contracts is just gonna make you hate every UFA contract ever.
See your point but every players salary will go up...Top defenseman top forward lines all way down to third and fourth lines it's all relative....Not against Quinn getting 11.5 but 14.5 imo not worth it especially on the Devils and the other poster at 16 per is insane....We will have to sign Nico Jack and Luke still....Personally hope he stays with the Canucks....
BleedBlue14
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Don’t look at it as a number. Look at it as a percentage of the cap. That’s what most of this is based off of and realistically that’s how these numbers come about.
Quinn Hughes is assuredly worth 15% of the cap. The odd factor is Makar is lined up to get paid the same year and they’ll have pretty similar deals.
14.5 is 100% worth it. By then 14.5 mill spent in UFA will get you like a 2nd pair dman and a 2nd line winger. And you're acting like it's too much for arguably the best dman in the league.
That's debatable whether he is best defenseman in the league or not...16 is insane....He gets that give McDavid 20 plus per...
Under a 113 mill cap mcdavid IS worth 20+ mill as a UFA yes.
Crosby signed for 16%, ovi signed for 16.5%, and both of them were RFAs.
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NJ fans are salivating that they ARE getting Quinn for dirty socks and underwear. So many variables that can happen in 2 years...and still a really good chance he stays in Van or goes elsewhere.
I can see Quinn probably resigning 4-5 years similar to the Matthews contract length if the Canucks get their shit together.
It’s not like New Jersey has had more success than the Canucks over the course of his career, in fact, Canucks have actually had more success. He’ll have a chance to play with his brothers one day and he will.
Tocchet not retained
Boeser not coming back
EP is a mess
Is Demko healthy
With Luke Hughes getting a contract this summer and jack a bunch of yrs away, its likely the trios only chance to play together.
Knowing Quinn a lot better than you folks, he’s stated how much it means to him to be that guy and how he wants to lead this team and understands the responsibility he has being named captain. It’s not in his character to just bolt to NJ cause he’s feeling homesick, it’s not in his character at all.
That’s why most Canucks fans aren’t really worried as long as the Canucks have a strong off season and bolster the top 6. We JUST barely missed the playoffs with an EP downyear, a 100 point center being traded, and multiple injuries to our key players to the point where we were running a Forbort/Myers/Juulsen/Desharnais/Soucy/Brannstrom d core, and running a rookie laden line up. With our D situation fixed and Demko finally healthy, we are looking really good for next season at defense/goal and just need to address our offense which already has the key ingredients but lacks top end talent.
Quinn will eventually play with his brothers, I’m pretty certain of it, but very likely not in his prime years.
Jack has also spoken about playing with both brothers as a “someday” thing. I have no doubt that Quinn feels loyal to the Canucks. I also expect the Canucks to offer him an insane contract when the time comes. My suspicion is both Luke and Quinn sign deals to coincide with Jack’s deal ending or at least close to it. By then they will range in age from (my guess) 28-30 and be ready to sign their last big deals. Of course if Jack keeps getting hurt who knows what the landscape will look like then.
Why? That's pretty dumb on Canucks part. Then Hughes will surely leave since Canucks will have only Lankinen in net, at best a good backup
True, NJ has lots of dmen, some that could be elite. We are talking about Quinn Hughes here, who is one of the best dman in the league but NJ has lots of good dman that they would be fine without Quinn Hughes with likes of Luke Hughes, Simon Nemec, Casey, Pesce, Hamilton, Kovacevic etc. All are pretty young except Pesce and Hamilton. Quinn Hughes plays 25 minutes to 30 minutes, so NJ would have to trade a couple of their dman to accommodate Hughes cap space and TOI. Also its not good if you have too many offensively minded dman and not any big and physical defensive dman in mold of players like Middleton, Edmonton, Forbort etc.
