as players, yes
as trade assets, no
23y old signed for 5 more years at a more than reasonable contract
vs.
27y old in his last year of contract and ufa to be
Proposal: Vancouver - New Jersey
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as trade assets, no
23y old signed for 5 more years at a more than reasonable contract
vs.
27y old in his last year of contract and ufa to be
Please consider this discrepancy as a fan base, as far as the contract status goes, when offering Severson to us.
dude has a 60% CF and thats a slow start? you do realize he's a defenseman, right?
he is an offensive mind d-man not putting up offense. having 63.9% offensive zone starts will usually help your CF% on a winning team. he has 3 takeaways and 12 giveaways, which is a bad trend. He doesn't block much and isn't overly physical. He is not off to a great start.
HugeInTheShire
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HugeInTheShire
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I don't understand, you thought a trade proposal didn't include the contracts the players are currently signed to?
Any Horvat deal almost certainly has as an extension worked out prior to going through. As a rental to a contender? Maybe. To a team like the Devils, there isn't even a conversation without an extension in place.
Our team wore him the hell out. He kept us from some good high draft picks! Good guy though, wish we could have been competitive for him
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Severson also just slaps the puck around like he's holding a wet noodle while frantically looking around because he lost his positioning 10 s ago.
i won't, as i never proposed any severson deal.
i am team keep severson for a potential po run. i am also team don't destroy the cap flexibility until you have shown you can win in the po.
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the devils are building around hischier/hughes, as their top6 center duo. horvat will be too expensive for the 3rd line.
HugeInTheShire
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You can't get all salty because this extension was only ever mentioned by people including myself saying they wouldn't have interest in signing him as they'd be paying their 3rd line Center over 7 million a year.
Horvat and Hishier are similar in value, if they were the same age with the same contract... that just simply is not the case.
I'm not salty whatsoever. The Devils aren't going to give up the assets needed to land Horvat as a rental. They aren't going all in this year, they are not a Horvat away from competing for the cup. A team in that realm is making a deal with an extension, or not making the deal at all. If it doesn't make sense for them to do that, then it's moot point to begin with
There are a few teams like Colorado, Toronto, and a few others who could use Horvat to put them over the top this year, knowing that he is most likely gone as UFA. It would be a heavy cost for a rental though.
HugeInTheShire
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I truly don't understand why you're upset though, I've stated that Horvat to NJ makes no sense from the beginning.
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Trades with an extension in place are very rare and usually just wishful thinking from the trading team’s fanbase. We heard all summer how Miller was going to be traded with an extension in place for a top tier return.
Peter Griffin
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Well he does have an extension in place now and no trade protection until July 1st....
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i don't know, what the devils would give.
me personally: nothing, as i am not interested in collecting brothers.
quinn's biggest strength isn't an immediate need. dougie and severson are enough to quarterback the pp this season and with luke hughes, nemec and casey the devils have 3 prospects, which potentially can fill this role in the future well.
quinn obviously is also tremendous at transitioning the puck, but the devils already are one of the fastest teams in the league and excel in the rush offense. i am not sure, how much of an improvement the devils could gain there from adding quinn.
the devils still struggle the most against physical teams. adding quinn would make the line up even smaller and the devils could be as a result weaker in their own zone.
the player and picks i would comfortably give up for the expected improvement with the addition of quinn hughes, would be way off from, what vancouver would expect as a fair return. i don't see a need to place an offer for him to create the next canucks - devils trade board feud.
ninetyeight
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Likely nothing right now. We probably have another Hughes coming later in the year. Devils are using LTIR to be cap compliant. No space for another high cap hit now.
