Rumor: Vancouver looking to move Beauvillier

[elitepete]

Does he though?? I like him a lot more than most people, but he’s that same winger that so many teams have too many of, usually making too much money. Their worth is at an all-time low. Hence why his name is out there.

Holl has been pretty solid in Detroit, and we all know the Leaf stuff was ridiculous. He was the whipping boy and we always have one with the Leafs. He was overplayed, out of position with the Leafs.

Detroit is playing him in the proper role. At Plus 6, he’s on his way to his 5th straight season being a positive player. Something few people would think reading this site. Whatever people argue on sites like this, managers and coaches still hold that stat in high regard. It especially says a lot about a dman who’s NOT offensive minded.

He’s a role playing RHD, on a good contract for the next couple of years. Isn’t that exactly what they’re looking for? I know his name has been dragged through the mud on this site, but reality is what actually matters.

It’s funny, he’s been much, much better than Petry too. Not exactly something people on this site predicted. Holl is a player nobody should use this site to help them make a judgment about.

Getting a solid role playing RHD for Beauvillier is probably about the most they can get for him. Just look at the current returns for middle six wingers over the last year. Teams practically give them away.

If they made this trade, they’d be a better hockey club, and that’s what’s most important.

Holl has 2 years after this one. Easy pass. He’s better than Myers but those 2 extra years just aren’t worth it. Canucks would rather acquire a Tanev or Murphy who are bonafide top 4 d and would move everyone on the right side down a pairing (except Hronek).

 

[quietbruinfan]

I like Beau, but the more he plays the more he seems like a third liner who can sometimes play over his head on the second line. At one time, I thought my Bruins would be a good fit, not anymore. Gryzelcyk is too valuable and Forbort fits, but makes too little money and does not do much for the Canucks. I will be interested to see where Beau lands.

 

[crashthenet]

I like Beau, but the more he plays the more he seems like a third liner who can sometimes play over his head on the second line. At one time, I thought my Bruins would be a good fit, not anymore. Gryzelcyk is too valuable and Forbort fits, but does not do much for the Canucks. I will be interested to see where Beau lands.

I don't think he has the IQ to play for Montgomery. His salary unfortunately puts him in a spot he's not suited for. Bottom sixer who plays with some heart.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I don't think he has the IQ to play for Montgomery. His salary unfortunately puts him in a spot he's not suited for. Bottom sixer who plays with some heart.

You may be right about the IQ. I am not a Montgomery fan, but he definitely gives the forwards freedom to jump around make quick decisions in the defensive and neutral zones. Yes, the salary is high for a bottom sixer/tweener. This makes me think he winds up in a non-contender with some cap room, a backwater that needs centers, like ClB, Chi or SJ. My gut says maybe CHI.

 

[Price is Wright]

Beau is perfect for a contender in a playoff run. If Canucks hold him until the trade deadline they will get a great price for him.

 

[Curufinwe]

Beau is perfect for a contender in a playoff run. If Canucks hold him until the trade deadline they will get a great price for him.

Aren't the Canucks trying to go on a playoff run?

 

[petterdaddy]

I like Beau, but the more he plays the more he seems like a third liner who can sometimes play over his head on the second line. At one time, I thought my Bruins would be a good fit, not anymore. Gryzelcyk is too valuable and Forbort fits, but makes too little money and does not do much for the Canucks. I will be interested to see where Beau lands.

This is a pretty good analysis. I like Beau on the Canucks, maybe not for his salary because he’s making too much for where he’s playing. He had a lot of success last year with Petey when Mikheyev was out but it’s not worth breaking up something that’s clearly working well right now.

I see him maybe fetching a 3rd, wouldn’t retain on him because I don’t think he’s that dire of a situation.

 

[Rowlet]

Aren't the Canucks trying to go on a playoff run?

They're also trying to add Defense

 

[pth2]

I could imagine Montreal taking him on, if he isn't of interest as a rental by anyone else. Habs could give him an audition to see if he's worth signing this summer.

I doubt Montreal would give up anything, but wouldn't ask for any kind of retention or sweetener, either.

 

[Price is Wright]

Aren't the Canucks trying to go on a playoff run?

Wouldn't be the first team nor the last to trade a player for picks/prospects but still end up in the playoffs. It's honestly what all bubble teams should do.

 

[oceanchild]

We could just trade the pick for a dman

Would be enough to sign bear and the second might grease the wheels to move
garland

 

[McJedi]

You really did break the Oil. Well done Vancouver.

That game Monday night felt like the inflection point in the McDrai era. The point it turned downward and ended it essentially. Now the Oil can't even beat a Sharks team that may end up as the worst ever club during the salary cap era. They are trash.

Congrats, especially those of you that were there to witness, in person, the McDavid meltdown with your own eyes.

It was glorious enough on TV as I watched it. But in person, in Canada, in your own barn as you savagely mocked the Oilers all game. Oh that memory and those bragging rights will take you all a long way into the future. You may own the Oilers now. And when Drai bounces this summer and it's over over... It could be a good decade or more before Edmonton is even somewhat relevant again. Vancouver may have sent that Edmonton club into some very dark times.

Bravo.

 

[Habaneros]

This year or next as a UFA...I would give high odds of him in a Montreal Canadiens jersey.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

This year or next as a UFA...I would give high odds of him in a Montreal Canadiens jersey.

I doubt it. The Habs will be brining in young players / prospects. They have their fill of vets. They are not bringing in Beau unless he takes a significant pay cut.

 

[Ita]

Can he get a late round pick with some retention?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Can he get a late round pick with some retention?

I can't think of any team looking for a player like Beau at this early stage in the season. It would have to be a competitor who is struggling. The Competitors that are struggling have other issues (defense and goaltending).

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

still think a peeke/beauvillier makes too much sense.

cbj needs to move a defenseman and add veterans, but garland has too much term to be an ideal fit. salaries line up well.

Peeke has too much term, we can't be adding term. (combined with Peeke's struggles this year).

If he didn't it would be intriguing though.

Holl has been pretty solid in Detroit, and we all know the Leaf stuff was ridiculous. He was the whipping boy and we always have one with the Leafs. He was overplayed, out of position with the Leafs.

Ditto. Can't add term. If Holl's contract length was the same as Beau it would make more sense.

That makes zero sense. Are Canucks trying to rebuild to get a measly 2nd for a 50% retained Beauvillier? Is that 2nd round pick going to contribute to the team now? Canucks would probably do a straight swap to get Tanev. Retaining half of Beau cap is dumb because we end up we dead cap and half his cap to play with and nothing to replace the player we moved.

They want to move money to sign Ethan Bear. Its basically moving Beau to add a potential #4D (if Bear can play like he did last year).

If they can retain & get a 3rd/4th they should do it. Not sure if his value will rise much being stuck down the lineup.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Beauvillier's actually not a bad player, just not really a fit right now. He brings some speed, and can get hot & score some goals.

If a team is desperate for offense I could see Beau making sense in a soft deal with retention.

Basically mid/late pick + contract for Beau with retention. Canucks need to make room for Ethan Bear anyways so that's the upside here.

 

[ole ole]

Aren't the Canucks trying to go on a playoff run?

Quiet .Don't ruin it for him.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Beauvillier's actually not a bad player, just not really a fit right now. He brings some speed, and can get hot & score some goals.

If a team is desperate for offense I could see Beau making sense in a soft deal with retention.

Basically mid/late pick + contract for Beau with retention. Canucks need to make room for Ethan Bear anyways so that's the upside here.

It would have to be closer to TDL for a trade to happen. No team is looking for Beau at this stage in the season.

 

[Stickpucker]

Brett Pesce on Carolina makes the same amount of money as Beauvillier and both are on expiring contracts.

We don't want that turd. He does nothing for us.

We can talk separately for Pesce.

 

[Cogburn]

I'm happy keeping Beau, Garland and, God help me, Myers, if we don't get a favourable return. They're all are doing what they need to do, we have no one on LTIR that is due back, and we're winning. If the piece is right, I'd be happy to add to any of the pieces if we get a return that works for us, but I really think selling them off cheap would be a mistake. That time has passed.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I'm happy keeping Beau, Garland and, God help me, Myers, if we don't get a favourable return. All are doing what they need to do, we have no one on LTIR that is due back, and we're winning. If the piece is right, I'd be happy to add to any of the pieces if we get a return that works for us, but I really think selling them off cheap would be a mistake, That time has passed.

You really have little choice but to keep them. GMs with space will want a sweetener to take them on at this early point in the season.

At TDL you might be able to get value by retaining and trading to a competitor. But likely the Nucks will be competing and will hold onto them to avoid retaining.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

It would have to be closer to TDL for a trade to happen. No team is looking for Beau at this stage in the season.

I dont know if your struggling to score you might if it costs you very little & you get retention, when we needed D help last year we didn't wait to act on Bear even though he was out of the lineup in Carolina.

Teams are going to start looking, I don't think the Canucks are looking to get a premium at this stage just make a soft deal to move the player along.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I dont know if your struggling to score you might if it costs you very little & you get retention, when we needed D help last year we didn't wait to act on Bear even though he was out of the lineup in Carolina.

Teams are going to start looking, I don't think the Canucks are looking to get a premium at this stage just make a soft deal to move the player along.

If you are looking for scoring, then Beau is not going to move the needle. At this stage its too early. Teams are looking from within. Competitors who are more serious about scoring can't accommodate Beau due to capspace. Non-competitors (e.g. Montreal) are not giving up anything of value knowing they won't be competing.