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Hronek seems to be doing fine. Beau is a fine player, but he is on the third or fourth line and that doesn’t look like it will change.Every time Vancouver acquires a guy, they sour on him within the year. So weird
Hronek seems to be doing fine. Beau is a fine player, but he is on the third or fourth line and that doesn’t look like it will change.Every time Vancouver acquires a guy, they sour on him within the year. So weird
He's been fine? Vancouver just has a glut of wingers and the top 6 wingers are set right now in terms of chemistry, so Beau is a luxury to have on the 4th line making 4m. He was fine on the top line last year as a complimentary piece filling in for MihkeyevIt's too bad to hear this about Beau. I liked him when he was on the Isles. He has the tools to be a quality NHLer but the results aren't there for whatever reason. If you can acquire him on the cheap he's worth rolling the dice.
You dont put good players on your 4th line and a team looking for offense isn't trading for a guy making 4 mill who his only 2 goals on the season are against the sharks who could be the worst team in decades.There will be a taker for Beauvillier who has a 4 mil contract which is expiring. I don't believe there wouldn't be one, there is always a team needing offense. Beauvillier 5 points in 12 games and him playing the 4th line is why we are trading him and his low points is also due to the fact he doesn't get PP time or play much as a 4th liner. You expected him to have 20 points in 12 games? C'mon bro. A team can see his potential and trade for him as it's a pretty low risk/high reward situation with a contract that will expire soon. Would be a pick if the team has cap space or another expiring contract swap like Tanev with similar cap hit.
Hronek?Every time Vancouver acquires a guy, they sour on him within the year. So weird
still think a peeke/beauvillier makes too much sense.
cbj needs to move a defenseman and add veterans, but garland has too much term to be an ideal fit. salaries line up well.
Beauvillier alone wouldn’t get you that. We have much better depth forwards and already many middling depth defenseman.To CHI
Anthony Beauvillier F
Vasily Podkolzin F
Noah Juulsen D
To VAN
MacKenzie Entwistle F
Reese Johnson F
Jarred Tinordi D
You do put good players on the 4th line similar to Garland and hoglander if your team is deep. When you have a million wingers where would you play them? Would you play Kuzmenko or Boeser on the 4th line? We have Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser, Digiuseppe, Garland, Beauvillier, Lafferty, Joshua, Studnicka etc. when you play on 4th line or 3rd line you get lower points. Garland and Beauvillier were playing top 6 last year so your take that they aren't good players is kind of dumb imo.You dont put good players on your 4th line and a team looking for offense isn't trading for a guy making 4 mill who his only 2 goals on the season are against the sharks who could be the worst team in decades.
You are definitely not getting Tanev in a swap.
That makes zero sense. Are Canucks trying to rebuild to get a measly 2nd for a 50% retained Beauvillier? Is that 2nd round pick going to contribute to the team now? Canucks would probably do a straight swap to get Tanev. Retaining half of Beau cap is dumb because we end up we dead cap and half his cap to play with and nothing to replace the player we moved.Beauvillier retained at 50% for a 2nd round pick from a playoff caliber team. Seems reasonable value here.
I would only trade Beau or Garland in exchange for a top 4 RHD to bolster this team. Otherwise getting rid of them without using that cap to get another player would be dumb. Beauvillier and Garland are both insurance against injuries. The same reason we bolstered the C position with Suter and added Blueger. We can afford to give up one 5o get deeper on D. I would not get rid of both though since we need depth.I like it as a Canucks fan.
But I do like the fact that Beaulivier can move up to our top line if Mik gets injured and fill the spot fairly well.
So are you saying you agree to trade a 3rd for Peeke?
CBJ have too many players as is, and can’t take on more bodies.
Why would Calgary do this? They aren’t playoff team. Your offer makes no sense.That makes zero sense. Are Canucks trying to rebuild to get a measly 2nd for a 50% retained Beauvillier? Is that 2nd round pick going to contribute to the team now? Canucks would probably do a straight swap to get Tanev. Retaining half of Beau cap is dumb because we end up we dead cap and half his cap to play with and nothing to replace the player we moved.
Neither Beauvillier or Garland are enough to land a middle pair RHD.I would only trade Beau or Garland in exchange for a top 4 RHD to bolster this team. Otherwise getting rid of them without using that cap to get another player would be dumb. Beauvillier and Garland are both insurance against injuries. The same reason we bolstered the C position with Suter and added Blueger. We can afford to give up one 5o get deeper on D. I would not get rid of both though since we need depth.
This is not that bad if the goal is simply to clear cap space, since the players coming back from Chicago are all on cheap dealsBeauvillier alone wouldn’t get you that. We have much better depth forwards and already many middling depth defenseman.
That is just not a well thought out post.
Beauvillier to Chicago would purely be a cap dump + a later pick being moved either way.
You just proved my point. You just acquired Lafferty for a 5th round pick and he makes a fraction of what Beauv makes. Studnicka was on waivers a month ago and no one claimed him. Zero value. You can't out perform PDG to be on a top line..come on.Thinking Beauv has any value is kind of dumb. By your logic playing these really good players on the 4th line to kill their value is absolutely stupid but thats what the Canucks are doing. Thinking other teams are going to jump at the opportunity and give anything of value when most of the people on this thread including Canucks fans would give him away for nothing is dumb.You do put good players on the 4th line similar to Garland and hoglander if your team is deep. When you have a million wingers where would you play them? Would you play Kuzmenko or Boeser on the 4th line? We have Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser, Digiuseppe, Garland, Beauvillier, Lafferty, Joshua, Studnicka etc. when you play on 4th line or 3rd line you get lower points. Garland and Beauvillier were playing top 6 last year so your take that they aren't good players is kind of dumb imo.
Counterpoint: healthy top-9 veteran skill players on expiring contracts always have value at the deadline, or to a team looking to fill for injuries to protect their season/shakeup ahead of the New Year.You just proved my point. You just acquired Lafferty for a 5th round pick and he makes a fraction of what Beauv makes. Studnicka was on waivers a month ago and no one claimed him. Zero value. You can't out perform PDG to be on a top line..come on.Thinking Beauv has any value is kind of dumb. By your logic playing these really good players on the 4th line to kill their value is absolutely stupid but thats what the Canucks are doing. Thinking other teams are going to jump at the opportunity and give anything of value when most of the people on this thread including Canucks fans would give him away for nothing is dumb.
You missed my point and still don't understand. It's ok though, since you don't watch the games and think Beauvillier or Garland are crappy players. Lafferty was acquired because he hits, forechecks hard, PK and fits our 3rd or 4th line better. Garland is a top 6 forward but is playing on 3rd line due to our depth. Do Giuseppe is the bigger player that grinds while Garland is more of a finesse player. If Garland sucks then how did he get 50 to 60 points in prior years? Beauvillier is a streaky scorer that can play top 6 too. There is value in those players, they aren't throw aways like Reaves. Also I pointed out trading Beauvillier for 34 year old Tanev who has 2 more playing years left in his career. It's not like I was saying we should trade Garland or Beauvillier for Jack Hughes. So your player's assessment is really off. If Canucks had cap space, I wouldn't even want to trade Garland or Beauvillier because they give the team depth in case of injuries. That's what a cup contending team would need. Unless we are trading either to add depth to D, I wouldn't trade them at all. They are better than scrubs like Reaves on 3rd or 4th lineYou just proved my point. You just acquired Lafferty for a 5th round pick and he makes a fraction of what Beauv makes. Studnicka was on waivers a month ago and no one claimed him. Zero value. You can't out perform PDG to be on a top line..come on.Thinking Beauv has any value is kind of dumb. By your logic playing these really good players on the 4th line to kill their value is absolutely stupid but thats what the Canucks are doing. Thinking other teams are going to jump at the opportunity and give anything of value when most of the people on this thread including Canucks fans would give him away for nothing is dumb.
Yep and Beauvillier and Garland are definite top 9 and borderline top 6 players since they can play on the PP and get top 6 minutes as proven before. Anybody who disagrees and thinks they don't have value is not watching hockey. I think it Canucks can't trade one of them now then they probably try during TDL to trade one of them for an RHD which we need. I definitely would not trade both though, trading 1 would be fine to get the needed defensive depth.Counterpoint: healthy top-9 veteran skill players on expiring contracts always have value at the deadline, or to a team looking to fill for injuries to protect their season/shakeup ahead of the New Year.
Every time Vancouver acquires a guy, they sour on him within the year. So weird
Pretty much sums him up. Should be making about 3mil as it fits his role.Hronek seems to be doing fine. Beau is a fine player, but he is on the third or fourth line and that doesn’t look like it will change.