Proposal: Vancouver - LA (Proposal) at the draft

[kinghock]

I don’t think it would moreso you aren’t comfortable paying a 50 point winger at his worst and 70 point at his best a couple hundred thousand over 6M.

Looking at capfriendly, the only king up for a more than modest raise if any raise is kempe. Even if he got a 100% raise to 4M, that would leave the kings with just under 17.3M in cap space with 15 players signed. Let’s say boeser eats 6.263M. That leaves the kings with 11M to fill in 4 roster spots and 3 reserve spots to get to a 23 man roster.

As a Canuck fan, I don’t even want to be trading boeser since he’s going to be signed to a very fair market deal that is more likely to be a steal than it is to be a little over paid. I don’t think he will have many seasons as this 50 point player he was this season and will be more around the normal 60 points he averages. So unless he indicates he wants out, the only way I would trade boeser is if it’s for a similar scorer like fiala. Someone who brings speed to the lineup without losing much if any offence. That or we get an offer that we would be stupid to say no to.

We have an agreement here.

As a Canuck fan, you don’t even want to be trading Boeser

As a Kings fan, I don’t want LA to be trading for Boeser

 

[Kurrilino]

I don’t think it would moreso you aren’t comfortable paying a 50 point winger at his worst and 70 point at his best a couple hundred thousand over 6M.

Looking at capfriendly, the only king up for a more than modest raise if any raise is kempe. Even if he got a 100% raise to 4M, that would leave the kings with just under 17.3M in cap space with 15 players signed. Let’s say boeser eats 6.263M. That leaves the kings with 11M to fill in 4 roster spots and 3 reserve spots to get to a 23 man roster.

As a Canuck fan, I don’t even want to be trading boeser since he’s going to be signed to a very fair market deal that is more likely to be a steal than it is to be a little over paid. I don’t think he will have many seasons as this 50 point player he was this season and will be more around the normal 60 points he averages. So unless he indicates he wants out, the only way I would trade boeser is if it’s for a similar scorer like fiala. Someone who brings speed to the lineup without losing much if any offence. That or we get an offer that we would be stupid to say no to.

It is an illusion that Kempe, who scores a 30+ goal season will sign for 4 mill
Beside that, we have Iafallo who has similar numbers as Boeser making 4 mill

Boeser is just not a good fit for 6 mill

 

[kinghock]

Not wanting boeser is one thing. Thinking he gets anything more than 6.375M is another. That number is 85% of his salary this season. There is no way an arbitrator awards him more than that. So the only way he gets more is if a team is willing to offer him more for a long term contract. I don’t see any team doing that.

IMO he probably takes the 6.375M for 1 or 2 years or signs a 5-8 year deal at 6-6.25M.

How about this?

• I do not want Boeser as a player
• I do not want Boeser as a player with 6-7M per year

 

[Canuck Luck]

How about this?

• I do not want Boeser as a player
• I do not want Boeser as a player with 6-7M per year

Then why not just ignore this thread? Seems like a fairly simple solution if YOU personally don’t want boeser but others are discussing him no? what you’re doing is basically the equivalent of walking into a church and then saying I don’t believe in god nor do I want to believe in god. That’s good for you that you feel that way and I even agree with your stance, but why are you even here then?

Kinda like how I starts off ignoring this thread since I wouldn’t want to trade boeser to LA for anything reasonable or realistic. Part of why I haven’t even proposed any trade here.

I only posted in here since people brought up his QO of 7.5M as if that’s a possibility to happen. I simply am pointing out no team would offer him a QO when they can just elect for arbitration instead so everyone that didn’t know that is informed and can continue discussing the fantasy of it with full knowledge of what his RFA status looks like

 

[Canuck Luck]

It is an illusion that Kempe, who scores a 30+ goal season will sign for 4 mill
Beside that, we have Iafallo who has similar numbers as Boeser making 4 mill

Boeser is just not a good fit for 6 mill

All I have to say is buyer beware if LA wants to pay him over 4M. The guy averages around 15 goals a season prior to this and has never really surpassed the 40 point plateau until this season. He could have taken the next step in his development at 25 but it’s also likely this is a career year he never matches. IMO for him to be worth over 4M he’d have to average better than 20 goals and 45 points moving forward.

 

[kinghock]

Then why not just ignore this thread? Seems like a fairly simple solution if YOU personally don’t want boeser but others are discussing him no?

Kinda like how I did since I wouldn’t want to trade boeser to LA for anything reasonable or realistic. Part of why I haven’t even proposed any trade here.

I only posted in here since people brought up his QO of 7.5M as if that’s a possibility to happen. I simply am pointing out no team would offer him a QO when they can just elect for arbitration instead so everyone that didn’t know that is informed and can continue discussing the fantasy of it with full knowledge of what his RFA status looks like

Did you notice that others people who were interested in Boeser trade to Kings were from Vancouver side?

It does not look like Kings fans have much interest in trade for him.

LA has a lot of problems to solve now, but Boeser is not solution for Kings.

In my view Kings needs to look for young elite goalie first and for young LD second.

 

[kinghock]

All I have to say is buyer beware if LA wants to pay him over 4M. The guy averages around 15 goals a season prior to this and has never really surpassed the 40 point plateau until this season. He could have taken the next step in his development at 25 but it’s also likely this is a career year he never matches. IMO for him to be worth over 4M he’d have to average better than 20 goals and 45 points moving forward.

You are entitled to your opinion about Kempe.

I am entitled to my opinion about Boeser.

I think Kempe is >> Boeser.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Did you notice that others people who were interested in Boeser trade to Kings were from Vancouver side?

It does not look like Kings fans have much interest in trade for him.

LA has a lot of problems to solve now, but Boeser is not solution for Kings.

In my view Kings needs to look for young elite goalie first and for young LD second.

No I didn’t because I haven’t cared to look at whose posting the proposals. I only visited this thread since it pertains to Vancouver and peaked my curiosity as to what others thought about boeser. Not once did I post or comment on the offers being proposed as it does nothing for this thread since I personally wouldn’t trade boeser to LA without it being an overpayment in picks/prospects. That would just derail the thread into a pissing war of who can make bad offers as it usually does and ruin it for the people that want to realistically fantasize about it.

Like I’ve said the entire time I’ve posted in this thread. It’s cool if LA fans don’t want boeser. I understand why, I also wouldn’t want to trade boeser either. Doesn’t mean I’m going to go around posting in here telling people hey stop fantasizing about it.

See your last half of this post would contribute to this thread as it’s not just I don’t want boeser regardless the offer. It gives insight of a kings fan on what they think their team needs are. Your prior posts is just click bait for someone to just propose an asinine offer that no one would obviously turn down which have contributed nothing to this thread

 

[YP44]

I am a king fan, and I do not wan to spend the assets or the cap hit on Boeser.

Garland on the other hand.

 

[Hockey Gamer]

So you just ignore the actual offer,

Why does LA do it?

LA does this to simply help the Canucks jumpstart their rebuild as the poster said... LA is so kind

but on a serious note - that offer is heavily imbalanced in favor of the Canucks. The kings gut their future window for one season of Miller. Nice.

 

[BringTheReign]

I am a king fan, and I do not wan to spend the assets or the cap hit on Boeser.

Garland on the other hand.

Garland for Iafallo + Grans

Canucks save $1M in cap space for a durable player with similar production to Garland when playing in a top 6 role. The Kings upgrade slightly in a player with the ability to drive offense himself more than Iafallo can, while dealing from a position of strength at RD.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

I think Vancouver looks for more than a worse player in Iafallo and good prospect like Grans for Garland.

 

[The Drew]

Did you notice that others people who were interested in Boeser trade to Kings were from Vancouver side?

It does not look like Kings fans have much interest in trade for him.

LA has a lot of problems to solve now, but Boeser is not solution for Kings.

In my view Kings needs to look for young elite goalie first and for young LD second.

And I believe that young LHD should be Mattias Samuelsson.... RHD for LHD

 

[Kurrilino]

Garland for Iafallo + Grans

Canucks save $1M in cap space for a durable player with similar production to Garland when playing in a top 6 role. The Kings upgrade slightly in a player with the ability to drive offense himself more than Iafallo can, while dealing from a position of strength at RD.

Grans is going nowhere.
It's like Kaliev, he is one of the players that fills a gap we have to fill.
Grans is a mobile 6'3 defender with huge upside.
Our defense corps is undersized as it gets.

Spence and Durzi are our trade chips

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

How about this?

• I do not want Boeser as a player
• I do not want Boeser as a player with 6-7M per year

I do not want him for a pick.
I do not want him, or his stick.
I do not want him in my chair -
I do not want him anywhere!!!!

 

[kinghock]

And I believe that young LHD should be Mattias Samuelsson.... RHD for LHD

Mattias Samuelsson from Buffalo sounds interesting

 

[kinghock]

Grans is going nowhere.
It's like Kaliev, he is one of the players that fills a gap we have to fill.
Grans is a mobile 6'3 defender with huge upside.
Our defense corps is undersized as it gets.

Spence and Durzi are our trade chips

To me Walker and Durzi are our trade chips.

I would keep Spence despite his size.

Faber can be traded for elite level young goalie or for elite level young LD.

 

[BringTheReign]

Grans is going nowhere.
It's like Kaliev, he is one of the players that fills a gap we have to fill.
Grans is a mobile 6'3 defender with huge upside.
Our defense corps is undersized as it gets.

Spence and Durzi are our trade chips

That's fine, I'd include Spence or Durzi over Grans.

 

[Kurrilino]

To me Walker and Durzi are our trade chips.

I would keep Spence despite his size.

Faber can be traded for elite level young goalie or for elite level young LD.

I would include Walker as trade chips as well. Good catch

 

[Kurrilino]

And I believe that young LHD should be Mattias Samuelsson.... RHD for LHD

Do we know if Samuelson is available somehow?
I see he plays in Rochester

 

[The Drew]

He's been up in Buffalo for a while now. With Power making his debut tonight I'm sure he would be pushed down to the third pairing and Buffalo is lacking RHD prospects. It is intriguing to think about.

 

[zcaptain]

I have a huge problem paying 6+ mill for Boeser

But since the point of the thread is you guys getting a defender, we have to shuffle
a little to make it happen.
One guy like Iafallo or Arvidson has to go the other way to even start talking.

Iafallo/Arvidson + Durzi/Spence/Roy vs Boeser is something i would be comfortable with only under the condition that Boeser is not getting something in the 6 mill range

Well, that is a fair offer..................

We will go with Iafallo and Spence for Boeser

 

[kilowatt]

I'd rather talk about something around JT Miller and Brock Faber.

 

[kinghock]

I'd rather talk about something around JT Miller and Brock Faber.

Do you really want 8.5m for 8 years of 30 years old Miller on Kings?

Vancouver will try to do everything possible not to be in this predicament, but Kings should?

Are we not good enough with slowing down Kopitar in LA?

I think it is horrible idea and I am glad you are not Kings GM

 

[kinghock]

Well, that is a fair offer..................

We will go with Iafallo and Spence for Boeser

I do not believe Kings will trade Spence for Boeser

Durzi can substitute Spence.