Vancouver Canucks fire Travis Green, name Bruce Boudreau head coach

[nturn06]

well, Green also had Demko playing great yet they still lost. So necessarily true if you really suck as a coach

Yea, I am pretty sure that Demko was averaging .5 GAA for Green

 

[jackjohnson]

Yea, I am pretty sure that Demko was averaging .5 GAA for Green

The way the defense was playing even Hasek in his prime would not be able to get .5 GAA nevermind Demko. Demko played great even during losses but keep telling yourself Green was not a problem

 

[jackjohnson]

Yes, you're correct. But we've won the lottery this season just finally dumping Benning and Green. This team will still lose a lot of games, but they'll learn to play a lot better, and it will be value added to the guys that will need to be traded in order to build a team that can compete for a cup in a few years. Doesn't mean the team can't have fun playing for the rest of the year ... game by game. Winning use to mean more rope for Benning, but that dark specter is done!!! Nice to support a team and seeing players trying their best, but the fact is, there's a lot of really good teams in the league and this isn't one of them.

I will not say this before I actually see a loss under Bruce. Lets just pause on that and see how well this team plays under Bruce. Green and Baumgartner could have been really really bad that they made a playoff team look like a last place team. Right now even poolman is playing better under Bruce and even players like Pearson. I know, its crazy to think but maybe the team is not as bad as people here say they are.

 

[DrDangles]

They're making the playoffs with BB.

Underperforming roster with great goaltending, all they need is a hot month and they're back in it.

 

[nturn06]

The way the defense was playing even Hasek in his prime would not be able to get .5 GAA nevermind Demko. Demko played great even during losses but keep telling yourself Green was not a problem

I'm not saying that Green was not the problem... I am just saying that I would like to first see how the Nucks are doing when Demko is not stealing games before deciding that BB solves all their issues.

 

[TheUnusedCrayon]

I'm not saying that Green was not the problem... I am just saying that I would like to first see how the Nucks are doing when Demko is not stealing games before deciding that BB solves all their issues.

Demko didn't steal either game though.

 

[I am toxic]

Willy D was a better NHL coach than Travis.

Wait, did I just use the word "better" in a sentence with Willy D and Travis?

My apologies, mea culpa. Those words don't belong together in the same forum, let alone the same post.

Let me try this again.

Travis is a worse NHL coach than Willy D.

How is that even possible?

Oh, and the Canucks are not making the playoffs.

Although it's good for the Canucks that BB is coming in and beginning to right the shi . . . salvage the wreck.

 

[TheUnusedCrayon]

Willie D was still worse. Much worse.

No he wasn't. His teams were much worse.

Go look at those Canucks rosters, they were utter dogshit. Vets at the end of their careers, they never had defensemen (thank god for Tanev), never had good goaltending, only Bo was a good forward and the Sedins were basically done with their careers.

 

[quat]

I will not say this before I actually see a loss under Bruce. Lets just pause on that and see how well this team plays under Bruce. Green and Baumgartner could have been really really bad that they made a playoff team look like a last place team. Right now even poolman is playing better under Bruce and even players like Pearson. I know, its crazy to think but maybe the team is not as bad as people here say they are.

Fair enough. I think a great number of people felt the team wasn't going to get into the playoffs and that was before the historically poor first quarter. I'm just trying to be realistic while supporting the team. I don't expect them to do really well, but now that Benning, Weisbrod, Green, etc are gone, I'm eager for them to play well. My expectations are low, but the enthusiasm is back ... but then the team just got blueberried again with Rutherford. lol

 

[LaVal]

Yea, I am pretty sure that Demko was averaging .5 GAA for Green

Or maybe Demko's great stats the past couple of games is a reflection of the team under Boudreau drastically cutting down high danger chances against? I'd like to see any goaltender post a decent GAA when they're facing double digit high danger chances against every game like Demko was under Green. In 2 games under Boudreau they've averaged 5.5

 

[theoriginalBCF]

When you look at the underlying stats, the Canucks are a top 5 team at 5 on 5, special teams was killing them. The reality was, JB created a playoff team that the coach could not adjust his system to get the most out of the players. He played one system, teams figured him out, and Green never could adjust.

I always go back to Billy Beane and the Oakland Athletics and how he forced Art Howe to play the team the way it was designed... they then started winning then went on the 20 game winning streak. Green coached the skill and drive out of the players. The players were scared to make any mistakes, and Green trusted "his" guys, Chaisson, sacrificing players like MacEwen and Gawdjovich. That is on the coach. JB deserved to be fired for going along with it. The Canucks have a long road, however other teams are starting to slow down, come back to reality, and the Canucks could be a team that goes on a bit of a run.

 

[jackjohnson]

I'm not saying that Green was not the problem... I am just saying that I would like to first see how the Nucks are doing when Demko is not stealing games before deciding that BB solves all their issues.

You dont need to see Demko steal games if you know hockey. You can see based on how the defense is playing, the lower number of odd man rushes, breakaways etc. which was a lot under Green the last 2 years. Under Bruce defender get the puck out of the zone or chip it out more quickly. Also when Demko plays really well and tries to steal a game, he gets a shutout playing under Bruce. When was the last time Demko got a shutout playing under Green? Stop making excuses for Green he sucked and he had his chance for 5 years, missed playoffs in 4 of them.

 

[jackjohnson]

When you look at the underlying stats, the Canucks are a top 5 team at 5 on 5, special teams was killing them. The reality was, JB created a playoff team that the coach could not adjust his system to get the most out of the players. He played one system, teams figured him out, and Green never could adjust.

I always go back to Billy Beane and the Oakland Athletics and how he forced Art Howe to play the team the way it was designed... they then started winning then went on the 20 game winning streak. Green coached the skill and drive out of the players. The players were scared to make any mistakes, and Green trusted "his" guys, Chaisson, sacrificing players like MacEwen and Gawdjovich. That is on the coach. JB deserved to be fired for going along with it. The Canucks have a long road, however other teams are starting to slow down, come back to reality, and the Canucks could be a team that goes on a bit of a run.

I will say Green has been one of the worst coaches the Canucks have ever had. Yes, even worst than Willie D who had a lot less to work with. Green biggest weakness is his stuborness to change when things dont work out his way. He thinks his way is the only way to win and there is only one way to win. I will say the same thing for Baumgartner who coached the worst PK in NHL history. Both of them should not be hired anytime soon and if Bruce turns this team around and have them in playoffs, I doubt Green will ever coach in NHL.

 

[jackjohnson]

Or maybe Demko's great stats the past couple of games is a reflection of the team under Boudreau drastically cutting down high danger chances against? I'd like to see any goaltender post a decent GAA when they're facing double digit high danger chances against every game like Demko was under Green. In 2 games under Boudreau they've averaged 5.5

Yep, which is funny to see all these Green apologists come here to tell us about how Demko was not playing good under Green. Its hilarious to even think like that.

 

[I am toxic]

Or maybe Demko's great stats the past couple of games is a reflection of the team under Boudreau drastically cutting down high danger chances against? I'd like to see any goaltender post a decent GAA when they're facing double digit high danger chances against every game like Demko was under Green. In 2 games under Boudreau they've averaged 5.5

The numbers for Horvat's line and separately Myers shutting down the Perfection line are astounding.

BB is an NHL coach, and equally important he is a good fit for the Canucks strengths and weaknesses.

Green was not an NHL coach, and equally important he was a bad fit for the Canucks strengths and weaknesses. As I have been saying for years now.

 

[CherryToke]

The numbers for Horvat's line and separately Myers shutting down the Perfection line are astounding.

BB is an NHL coach, and equally important he is a good fit for the Canucks strengths and weaknesses.

Green was not an NHL coach, and equally important he was a bad fit for the Canucks strengths and weaknesses. As I have been saying for years now.

He's not even a good AHL coach but the media constantly pumped his tires. It was so f***ing maddening! Good riddance arrogant clown!

 

[CherryToke]

 

[I am toxic]

He's not even a good AHL coach but the media constantly pumped his tires. It was so f***ing maddening! Good riddance clown!

Like, Marky - and to a lesser extent Bear cheese - got the Comets to the finals, despite Green, not because of Green.

It is painful watching the bootlicking media lick boots, the casuals lap it up, and the owner pats himself on the back, and delays years before addressing the situation.

The cherry on top of this s*** sandwich? The owner only acknowledges he was too "patient".

No, the owner was too impatient to rebuild, watched the incompetent buffoonery he hired squander the future to fail to compete for a bubble spot, and then let his ego get in the way of admitting his complete failure, for years. And still can't admit it in words.

Hopefully the acquisition of JR as POHO is a sign of the owner admitting by actions.

Hopefully.

 

[krutovsdonut]

When you look at the underlying stats, the Canucks are a top 5 team at 5 on 5, special teams was killing them. The reality was, JB created a playoff team that the coach could not adjust his system to get the most out of the players. He played one system, teams figured him out, and Green never could adjust.

I always go back to Billy Beane and the Oakland Athletics and how he forced Art Howe to play the team the way it was designed... they then started winning then went on the 20 game winning streak. Green coached the skill and drive out of the players. The players were scared to make any mistakes, and Green trusted "his" guys, Chaisson, sacrificing players like MacEwen and Gawdjovich. That is on the coach. JB deserved to be fired for going along with it. The Canucks have a long road, however other teams are starting to slow down, come back to reality, and the Canucks could be a team that goes on a bit of a run.

this is very close to my take. i would say we have no idea if benning put together a playoff team because green could not get the best out of so many players.

 

[I am toxic]

So did they play whoops again after the shootout? I imagine the crowd on hand was luvin' it.

PS thank goodness for Canucks BB is there to salvage Petey's confidence, after Green completely wrecked it. But you all see the mistake BB is making, right? Don't tell me you don't see it.

 

[jackjohnson]

I'm not saying that Green was not the problem... I am just saying that I would like to first see how the Nucks are doing when Demko is not stealing games before deciding that BB solves all their issues.

That is a pretty stupid reason because Demko is part of the team and he was part of the team when Green was coaching this year and last year. The argument is stupid, its like saying well lets see how the 1990's chicago bulls do if we take out Micheal Jordan to see if the team is good.

 

[jackjohnson]

So did they play whoops again after the shootout? I imagine the crowd on hand was luvin' it.

PS thank goodness for Canucks BB is there to salvage Petey's confidence, after Green completely wrecked it. But you all see the mistake BB is making, right? Don't tell me you don't see it.

What? winning 3 in a row is now a mistake? lol You definitely wear your username on your sleeve

 

[jackjohnson]

Willy D was a better NHL coach than Travis.

Wait, did I just use the word "better" in a sentence with Willy D and Travis?

My apologies, mea culpa. Those words don't belong together in the same forum, let alone the same post.

Let me try this again.

Travis is a worse NHL coach than Willy D.

How is that even possible?

Oh, and the Canucks are not making the playoffs.

Although it's good for the Canucks that BB is coming in and beginning to right the shi . . . salvage the wreck.

Would you bet your house on that? Canucks 6 points out of playoffs with 50 games to go and they have a hot goalie that could win the vezina.

 

[Grub]

After reading all this bs, I can conclude that Travis Green is just a big con artist. He faked being an NHL coach and got many people to buy in.

 

[Hoglander]

I actually thought Green coached to the team's strength until they got dominated possession-wise by the Knights in the playoffs. Then he got away from that, and tried to change the way the team played. All we did, was stay on the boards and the perimeter, dump and chase, and fail to get bodies and pucks to the net - while giving up all sorts of high danger chances and oddman rushes, as well as doing an amateur-level job of defending our own blueline. I don't know how much Benning influenced the coaching style, but it doesn't matter at this point. I'm just happy both of them are gone and I don't have to watch a disgruntled team play like dogshit.