Proposal: Vancouver blowing it up!

Laine put up 5 more goals t hf an Pettersson in 12 fewer games and only has 1 year left on his contract. Pettersson is the 5th highest paid player in the league, only managed a 15 goal season and has been crap for a season and a half. Pettersson at his full cap hit for another 7 years is a brutal contract. I wouldn't trade Laine for him straight across. It could hamstring . So the Habs for the better part of a decade
I have no dog in this fight, I am not looking at Patterson value, lane will need a first round pick attached to him to get him out of MTL. Dach with 50 retention could have positive value. Where he’s at right now probably needs a 3round puck to move him. So Montreal would essentially be paying a first for Peterson. I think Vancouver keeps him for that.
 
I have no dog in this fight, I am not looking at Patterson value, lane will need a first round pick attached to him to get him out of MTL. Dach with 50 retention could have positive value. Where he’s at right now probably needs a 3round puck to move him. So Montreal would essentially be paying a first for Peterson. I think Vancouver keeps him for that.
Montreal doesn't want an overpaid underperformed Pettersson at $11.6m to be their 2c. Beyond that they don't need to move Laine. But to suggest they'd need to attach a 1st to move 1 year of him is just plain wrong. What's Vancouver attaching to the albatross contract Pettersson has to move him.
 
Montreal doesn't want an overpaid underperformed Pettersson at $11.6m to be their 2c. Beyond that they don't need to move Laine. But to suggest they'd need to attach a 1st to move 1 year of him is just plain wrong. What's Vancouver attaching to the albatross contract Pettersson has to move him.
I’m an avs fan, laine has had his change of scenery trades. He’s a known. Again you keep trying to make this about Peterson, I am not. I’m wrong? 8.7 is gonna cost you a first rounder to ship him out… a prime example Ryan Johansson for the avs last year. At his 4million contract cost a first rounder. Either you’re being obtuse, or willfully ignorant. I’d guess the second
 
I’m an avs fan, laine has had his change of scenery trades. He’s a known. Again you keep trying to make this about Peterson, I am not. I’m wrong? 8.7 is gonna cost you a first rounder to ship him out… a prime example Ryan Johansson for the avs last year. At his 4million contract cost a first rounder. Either you’re being obtuse, or willfully ignorant. I’d guess the second
Im making it about Pettersson because the whole trsde is centered around him. Montresl has no need to move the last year of Laine's contract unless they're trying to make space for the obscenely overpaid Pettersson. Since they most likely have zero interest in Pettersson they aren't desperate to move Laine so they wont be paying any team to move him. Trade values don't exist in a vacuum. Circumstances and demand determine values.
 
Im making it about Pettersson because the whole trsde is centered around him. Montresl has no need to move the last year of Laine's contract unless they're trying to make space for the obscenely overpaid Pettersson. Since they most likely have zero interest in Pettersson they aren't desperate to move Laine so they wont be paying any team to move him. Trade values don't exist in a vacuum. Circumstances and demand determine values.
what part of I don’t care about Petersson are you not understanding.if you wanna talk about laines value I’ll continue., or you can continue on about something I’m not even talking about
 
Thinking that the Van owner will allow a blow-up rebuild is not understanding this guy. It’s a fools thoughts. No way he will allow that to happen. Van will trade their high picks and top prospects for help now.
 
How many Vancouver threads do we need?

Feels like a master thread should happen.

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what part of I don’t care about Petersson are you not understanding.if you wanna talk about laines value I’ll continue., or you can continue on about something I’m not even talking about
What part of trade value doesnt exist in a vacuum dont YOU understand?
 
What part of trade value doesnt exist in a vacuum dont YOU understand?
I mean who could deny such a vague nothing post. There is such thing as precedence. If you retained on laine he might have neutral value. A guy that averages 50 ish games a season is a non factor besides shooting. As everything laid before us. Laine would take a first to move. At least provide some semblance of a argument
 
When it seems like Pettersson has mailed it in and Quinn Hughes, the captain, wants out to play with his bros - heres my proposal:

Devils get:

Quinn Hughes 7.85M UFA 2027

Canucks get:

Simon Nemec 0.918M RFA 2026

Ondrej Palat 6M UFA 2027 for cap-reasons

Casey Seamus 0.95M RFA 2027

1st 2026

Devils get a Norris-caliber 1D to play with his brothers and he will very likely resign there after 2027. Canucks get 2 very good young defencemen in Nemec and Seamus + a 1st to rebuild the team properly.


Vancouver get:

Patrick Laine 8.7M UFA 2027

Kirby Dach 3.36M UFA 2026

Canadiens 1st 2025

Canadiens 1st 2026


Montreal get:

Elias Pettersson 11.6M UFA 2032


Montreal get their 1-2 punch at C and hope EP rebuilds his career. Vancouver get rid of a guy, that does seem disinterested playing there. Canucks also get 2x 1st:s for their rebuild after their best player and captain also seem to want to leave.Dach could become a serviceable 3C. Laine is in for cap reasons.
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Thoughts?
And what are the r chaa as need the current van owner will d what you’re suggesting? Don’t hide. Let us know what you think is reality. Imo it’s zero.
 
I mean who could deny such a vague nothing post. There is such thing as precedence. If you retained on laine he might have neutral value. A guy that averages 50 ish games a season is a non factor besides shooting. As everything laid before us. Laine would take a first to move. At least provide some semblance of a argument
Ok bud, if you say so
 
It’s basically two firsts for Petey when you factor in Laine’s and Dach’s contracts. If another pick would add some retention on Vancouver’s end, why not from the Habs
 
It’s basically two firsts for Petey when you factor in Laine’s and Dach’s contracts. If another pick would add some retention on Vancouver’s end, why not from the Habs
Have you watched Pettersson play over the last season and a half? Hes been bad. Vancouver isn't going to retain for 7 years so it's $11.6m a year for a pouty overpaid 2c who would get destroyed by the Montreal media and fans. He needs to play in a non traditional market like Utah where he can suck in anonymity
 
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I still think Boston and Vancouver were close at the deadline, McAvoy went down, Lindholm shut it down for the year and both parties decided to wait until the Draft.

1. Boston acquires assets to trade for Pettersson while selling off players the Canucks wouldn't want.
2. Vancouver gets to see if Pettersson improves to finish off the year.

Now, the assets are there to make a trade, Pettersson didn't play out of it or improve and the trade can take place.

I'd not be surprised to see Zacha, prospect, and the 1st from the Carlo or Marchand trade heading to Vancouver.
 
A few things that must be remembered in this conversation.

Just because it's believed that Quinn wants to join his brothers in NJ doesn't mean Vancouver HAS to abide and send him there for whatever NJ wants to give. Teams absolutely would take Quinn as a 2 year rental even knowing they'd likely lose him.

Luke Hughes cannot receive an offer sheet so that puts the likelihood of Jack and Luke joining the Canucks to around 0% as the Devils certainly wouldn't consider trading them both and there is no other feasible way to pull it off.

There absolutely is a risk for the Devils to just wait and sign him for nothing in 2 years. He could go to a different team and decide to re-sign there. Hell he could decide Vancouver has done enough to entice him to stay. Devils would also be putting off going all in for another 2 years, since that'd be 2 years of budgeting to ensure you save enough space for Quinn.

This doesn't mean the Devils should be willing to move out whatever Vancouver wants for him but they should be willing to part with anything beyond Hischier, Bratt and obviously Jack and Luke.

No way the UFA rights to Sprong and Bastian are on the table? And what about Cholowski? Messier said he’s young and promising. That sounds like the sort of player you build around not one you trade.
 
No way the UFA rights to Sprong and Bastian are on the table? And what about Cholowski? Messier said he’s young and promising. That sounds like the sort of player you build around not one you trade.
I assumed it went without saying that those 3 were untouchable.
 
I still think Boston and Vancouver were close at the deadline, McAvoy went down, Lindholm shut it down for the year and both parties decided to wait until the Draft.

1. Boston acquires assets to trade for Pettersson while selling off players the Canucks wouldn't want.
2. Vancouver gets to see if Pettersson improves to finish off the year.

Now, the assets are there to make a trade, Pettersson didn't play out of it or improve and the trade can take place.

I'd not be surprised to see Zacha, prospect, and the 1st from the Carlo or Marchand trade heading to Vancouver.
For what? Pettersson?
 
No Tocchet? Big changes coming if that’s the case. Off season should be very interesting. Especially with an owner who will refuse to “blow it up”.
 
That isnt....

NJ just waits to sign him

He gas just 3 yrd left which lowers hus value into rental prices.
I disagree. If you WANT a guy like Quinn Hughes and he comes available, you go get him now

A lot can happen and change in 3 years that could very well shift team trajectories. You capitalize on the Canucks being a bit of a mess right now.
 
Even with the cap going up can The Habs afford EP after they sign Hutson long term?

I would take the chance on EP if it was not for the massive cap hit

I doubt Pettersson gets traded or that Montreal would make the best offer, but Montreal would have the cap space. Most of Montreal's big money contracts (outside of Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Guhle) expire in 2026 or 2027. They have plenty of cap space opening up and have room now.
 

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