Post-Game Talk: Vancouver 2, Vanderhoff 1 (SO): You're worthy, you're worthy!

[Derp Kassian]

Well that was a very meh game

What did you guys think of Saad?

I thought Kassian looked good for Nucks ,, I was hopeful that trade would not work out for you guys but so far it is looking like both Sabres/Nucks are happy with what they got

You jacka$$es always get steals in the draft like Saad and Tervainen somehow.

 

[Tiranis]

You jacka$$es always get steals in the draft like Saad and Tervainen somehow.

We'll have our own steal in Jensen playing next season. Probably, anyway.

 

[luongo321]

Is this the kid?

loool. that kid is trolling the hell out of him. It really irks me that he always has on a visiting jersey. My main question: as he grows older, will this trend continue? Sutter's face is priceless when he looks back at him.

also, who the hell is lucas? is it this kid? I keep hearing people talk about lucas in the gdt and i have no idea who they are talkinga bout.

 

[Bleach Clean]

We'll have our own steal in Jensen playing next season. Probably, anyway.

Jensen and Saad were right there for top ranked BPAs at our position in 2011. Both seem to be doing well considering where they were expected to go.


CHI's prospect pool has good depth though. I count about 7-9 players that have really good shots to become NHLers in the near future.

 

[YouCantYandleThis*]

loool. that kid is trolling the hell out of him. It really irks me that he always has on a visiting jersey. My main question: as he grows older, will this trend continue?

also, who the hell is lucas? is it this kid? I keep hearing people talk about lucas in the gdt and i have no idea who they are talkinga bout.

Goddamit Lucas!

 

[Nuckles]

also, who the hell is lucas? is it this kid? I keep hearing people talk about lucas in the gdt and i have no idea who they are talkinga bout.

Lucas is the name of an annoying kid in a commercial that plays every time there is a commercial break.

 

[HighAndTight]

Lucas is the name of an annoying kid in a commercial that plays every time there is a commercial break.

Oh that one with parents trying to protect him or whatever.

 

[Pip]

Oh that one with parents trying to protect him or whatever.

yessir

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

You jacka$$es always get steals in the draft like Saad and Tervainen somehow.

Mike Smith years as GM got Hawks some steals (Keith , Buff , etc)
Pulfords one draft (2004) got Hawks some steals (Bolland/Brouwer)

Dale Tallon era (05-09) the draft was an abysmal failure outside of gimme picks of Toews/Kane

Hjalmarsson was only steal (4th round in 05) and Kruger only other NHL talent drafted by Tallon (5th round of 09)

Some really absymal drafting by Fail Dale as GM (Skille over Kopitar and the absolute waste of #11 pick in 2008 on Beach who has turned into Ty Jones 2.0)

Thankfully after meh start (2010 draft doesn't look so hot right now) ,, Stan Bowman seems to have really hit on some picks in 2011 and TT looks great from 2012

 

[The Bob Cole]

Actually 1 win versus 6 losses on face offs tonite and most of those losses were totally clean losses. And who is this player throwing hits or scoring a goal or two. Certainly not Manny. I don't know whether Malhotra has had a meaningful shot on net this year

A reasonable price? 2.5 cap his for a player who does one thing. He is one of the worst contracts in the League. Maybe the worst.

Has often as not causes big trouble in our end as they have to try to hustle him off the ice soon as the face off is over.

Who do replace him? - LaPierre who was 8 and 2 tonite and who can at least play after the puck is dropped.

To suggest we don't recognize the pathetic play of Malhotra and not try to remedy the situation is ridiculous. And to suggest the bad play of Ebbett somehow justifies the tragic play of Malhotra is goofy. They are both bad and both need replacement.

1) You are right, I use yahoo's boxscores and malhotra and lappy are back to back so i misaligned that one. However, he was still 65+% past 2 games.

2) Who is the player throwing hits and scoring? THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING!?! Who is the player at that REASONABLE PRICE (Acquisition AND salary!!!) that you are going to acquire once we have our team fully healthy? Who are you going to trade for that will do that much of a better job than Manny? Manny is still one of our top faceoff men and PKers and yes, that is still valuable to the team.

And you may not want to cherry pick stats... Manny has clearly been the best faceoff-man on the team. The team seriously struggled without him those couple of games on the road. Lappy has not be consistent in the dot, as referenced by his low faceoff numbers despite going 80% last night.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Lucas is the name of an annoying kid in a commercial that plays every time there is a commercial break.

Oh that one with parents trying to protect him or whatever.

 

[Tim McCracken]

Observations from being at the game last night:

- Kassian is a great fit with the Sedins and way more skilled than people could have anticipated at the time of the trade
- Tanev is is ridiculously calm for his age
- I'd keep Ballard and dump Booth if they need to free up cap $$$
- Schroeder should stay up with the big club
- It's easy to see why Higgins is on his 5th team
- It's hard to take this team seriously as long as Dale Weise is on it let alone on the 3rd line
- They desperately need Kesler back to anchor the 2nd line with Burrows
- Garrison is marginal and a mistake with that contract
- I'm quite ok if they keep both goalies
- Whoever decided on the opening montage prior to the teams coming out to start the game is an idiot. It looks like a generic tv commercial and doesn't exactly get the fans juiced. They had a terrific opportunity to splice in clips of previous 'Nucks-Hawks games with older footage of Kurtenbach, Quinn, Smyl, Snepsts, Bure, Linden, etc to really set a tone and missed the boat completely. Between that and the boring play, no wonder the place feels like a morgue. Horrible.

Last and certainly not least...I really dig when women wear those stretchy cotton pants to games!

 

[orcatown]

1) You are right, I use yahoo's boxscores and malhotra and lappy are back to back so i misaligned that one. However, he was still 65+% past 2 games.

2) Who is the player throwing hits and scoring? THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING!?! Who is the player at that REASONABLE PRICE (Acquisition AND salary!!!) that you are going to acquire once we have our team fully healthy? Who are you going to trade for that will do that much of a better job than Manny? Manny is still one of our top faceoff men and PKers and yes, that is still valuable to the team.

If the team is fully back you don't need to replace him

Go

Sedin - Kassian

Booth Kesler Burrows

Raymond Schroeder Higgins

Weise LaPierre Volpatti

Here you can go roll 4 lines without the continual chaos of trying to hustle Manny off on on the ice

Beyond that, what is valuable here is the cap space you get by shedding Malhothra's bloated contract. With that you can pick up a player at the deadline that can actually hep the team There will solid wingers available for draft choices as many other teams look to rebuild that can be picked up if we don't use up so much space with Malhotra. So if you want the reasonable replacement the best avenue is to dump Malhotra. By retaining him you negate that possibility. Got to get the chicken before the egg here.

And yes Malhotra's contract is among the worst in the League.. Watch him play. He has no offensive skill. None. He has no physical component to his play. No one throws more snow than Malhotra or has less contact. His PK is barely adequate as he gets no up ice pressure and won't block shots. Seems, in fact , to lack stamina on the PK and really lags if he has to spend any length of time on it. And he is getting 2.5 for this absolutely marginal (and that's being charitable) contribution.

All you Malhotra apologists cling to is that he can win faceoffs. But with the new rules not allowing you use glove to sweep away the puck. (Malhotra's favorite gimmick) there is a every possibility that even here Malhotra will begin to fade.

In the end, people cling to corsi ratings, specialist talk, situational use, etc.. to justify a player I guess they feel some affection to. In reality , all you have to do is watch him play to see his ineffectiveness. I believe the tide is starting to turn and many here and elsewhere are willing to agree he is simply no good. He had a terrible season last year which was explained away a dozen to Sunday (lack of an off season, restrained play because of eye concerns, bad coaching by AV) Yet he has started this season just as ineffectively and with the same tentativeness. Yet there will always be there those sentimentalist who don't really regard Malhotra in a hockey sense but who love the story and want to believe what they want to believe no matter how contrived it is.

To me anyone suggesting that we bring back Malhotra next year needs to give their head a shake.

 

[Lundface*]

If the team is fully back you don't need to replace him

Go

Sedin - Kassian

Booth Kesler Burrows

Raymond Schroeder Higgins

Weise LaPierre Volpatti

Here you can go roll 4 lines without the continual chaos of trying to hustle Manny off on on the ice

Beyond that, what is valuable here is the cap space you get by shedding Malhothra's bloated contract. With that you can pick up a player at the deadline that can actually hep the team There will solid wingers available for draft choices as many other teams look to rebuild that can be picked up if we don't use up so much space with Malhotra. So if you want the reasonable replacement the best avenue is to dump Malhotra. By retaining him you negate that possibility. Got to get the chicken before the egg here.

And yes Malhotra's contract is among the worst in the League.. Watch him play. He has no offensive skill. None. He has no physical component to his play. No one throws more snow than Malhotra or has less contact. His PK is barely adequate as he gets no up ice pressure and won't block shots. Seems, in fact , to lack stamina on the PK and really lags if he has to spend any length of time on it. And he is getting 2.5 for this absolutely marginal (and that's being charitable) contribution.

All you Malhotra apologists cling to is that he can win faceoffs. But with the new rules not allowing you use glove to sweep away the puck. (Malhotra's favorite gimmick) there is a every possibility that even here Malhotra will begin to fade.

In the end, people cling to corsi ratings, specialist talk, situational use, etc.. to justify a player I guess they feel some affection to. In reality , all you have to do is watch him play to see his ineffectiveness. I believe the tide is starting to turn and many here and elsewhere are willing to agree he is simply no good. He had a terrible season last year which was explained away a dozen to Sunday (lack of an off season, restrained play because of eye concerns, bad coaching by AV) Yet he has started this season just as ineffectively and with the same tentativeness. Yet there will always be there those sentimentalist who don't really regard Malhotra in a hockey sense but who love the story and want to believe what they want to believe no matter how contrived it is.

To me anyone suggesting that we bring back Malhotra next year needs to give their head a shake.

What the hell do you people keep doing with Hansen???

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Observations from being at the game last night:

- Kassian is a great fit with the Sedins and way more skilled than people could have anticipated at the time of the trade
Agreed.
- Tanev is is ridiculously calm for his age
Yup.
- I'd keep Ballard and dump Booth if they need to free up cap $$$
Starting to lean in that direction, but I think Booth should definitely get a chance to redeem himself when healthy.
- Schroeder should stay up with the big club
Hell to the yes.
- It's easy to see why Higgins is on his 5th team
Disagree. Thought last night was his best game yet.
- It's hard to take this team seriously as long as Dale Weise is on it let alone on the 3rd line
Not opposed to him being a 4th line banger/crasher, but he's an anchor on the Raymond/Shredder line.
- They desperately need Kesler back to anchor the 2nd line with Burrows
Big time.
- Garrison is marginal and a mistake with that contract
Patience. He's slowly starting to come along.
- I'm quite ok if they keep both goalies
The media is too. Are the goalies okay with it though?
- Whoever decided on the opening montage prior to the teams coming out to start the game is an idiot. It looks like a generic tv commercial and doesn't exactly get the fans juiced. They had a terrific opportunity to splice in clips of previous 'Nucks-Hawks games with older footage of Kurtenbach, Quinn, Smyl, Snepsts, Bure, Linden, etc to really set a tone and missed the boat completely. Between that and the boring play, no wonder the place feels like a morgue. Horrible.
Didn't see it.

Last and certainly not least...I really dig when women wear those stretchy cotton pants to games!
Depends on the women.

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[orcatown]

Yea - sorry about that. Dumb not include him since it better makes the point that Malhotra is expendable

Go

Sedins - Kassian

Booth - Kesler Burrows

Raymond Schroeder HIggins

Hansen - LaPierre - Volpatti/Weise

 

[LiquidSnake]

 

[HighAndTight]

I'm crying over here...

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

"Look Mommy, I got my number back!"

 

[Potatoe1]

Well that was a very meh game

What did you guys think of Saad?

I think it's utterly ridiculous he fell so far in the draft.

I don't care how bad someones attitude is, when the players has top5 talent he shouldn't fall to the middle of the second round.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I really like the idea of a Raymond-Schroeder-Booth third line that gets to rip it up against soft competition. With everyone healthy it would be great if we could have:

Sedins-Kassian
Burrows-Kesler-Higgins
Raymond-Schroeer-Booth
Malhotra-Lapierre-Hansen

Actually ideally we'd get another forward in the Luongo deal (or something) to slot in next to Kesler and then the 4th line would be Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen. With Malhotra and Weise in the press box, that is some pretty sick depth.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Is this the kid?

I remember someone was going have a kid sit on their lap in front of my dad one time ...
he yelled for an usher and objected, the kid was gone immediately. If this kid is sitting on someones lap he should be gone.

Otherwise, who cares what jersey some ******* wears.

 

[Zombotron]

I really like the idea of a Raymond-Schroeder-Booth third line that gets to rip it up against soft competition. With everyone healthy it would be great if we could have:

Sedins-Kassian
Burrows-Kesler-Higgins
Raymond-Schroeer-Booth
Malhotra-Lapierre-Hansen

Actually ideally we'd get another forward in the Luongo deal (or something) to slot in next to Kesler and then the 4th line would be Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen. With Malhotra and Weise in the press box, that is some pretty sick depth.

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Hansen
Raymond - Schroeder - Booth
Higgins - Lapierre - Malhotra
Volpatti
Weise
Ebbett

OR

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Kessel/Stastny/Niederreiter/Laich/whoever (just for the sake of example)
Raymond - Schroeder - Booth
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen
Malhotra
Volpatti
Weise
Ebbett

vs.

Kane - Toews - Byfuglien
Ladd - Sharp - Hossa
Brouwer - Bolland - Versteeg
Eager - Madden - Kopecky
Fraser
Burish
Bickell

OR

Kunitz - McDonald - Selanne
Perry - Penner - Getzlaf
Moen - Pahlsson - R. Niedermayer
May - Marchant - Shawn Thornton
Parros
Shannon

Comparable?

 

[Scurr]

I remember someone was going have a kid sit on their lap in front of my dad one time ...
he yelled for an usher and objected, the kid was gone immediately. If this kid is sitting on someones lap he should be gone.

Otherwise, who cares what jersey some ******* wears.

You're not serious? No wonder the Canuck games are such a bore to attend. Is it too loud for you guys in there too? You want us to keep it down?

 

[Scottrockztheworld*]

I remember someone was going have a kid sit on their lap in front of my dad one time ...
he yelled for an usher and objected, the kid was gone immediately. If this kid is sitting on someones lap he should be gone.

Otherwise, who cares what jersey some ******* wears.

Your dad got a little kid kicked out of a Hockey game? **** move IMO.