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VAN3 : LAK 2 - Downgrade your expectations for the playoffs

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XO said:
Lol players don't think like that and try to fix the standings
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lol, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Not re: fixing the standings but anyone paying attention knows Kings have been on cruise control since clinching.

Unless you really think we're gonna play Luke Schenn 20 minutes a night.
 
Schenn playing 20 minutes a night, DOUGhty getting minutes chopped severely, Andreoff with Kopitar...

I'm still not worried since this isn't how life will be a week from now, but at what point does Sutter straighten up the lines and minutes in preparation?

I'm not even worried about the period ending goals since that's a focus matter that won't happen in the playoffs, but gotta start conditioning guys now.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Schenn playing 20 minutes a night, DOUGhty getting minutes chopped severely, Andreoff with Kopitar...

I'm still not worried since this isn't how life will be a week from now, but at what point does Sutter straighten up the lines and minutes in preparation?

I'm not even worried about the period ending goals since that's a focus matter that won't happen in the playoffs, but gotta start conditioning guys now.
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I'm with Sutter 100% on this. Go full crazy mode for the rest of the season. Other coaches can't get a read on it and think you've lost all your marbles. Not a hard sell with Sutter. Then they can't come up with a plan of attack because they have no idea what you'll do. Solid strategy, hard to counter an erratic, unpredictable opponent.
 
Bandit said:
Be cheeky if you want, but the fact remains that if Brown is off the team the day the playoffs end for the Kings, who do we get with his money? Forward or defense? Who?
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I'd go after Clarkson. Probably has more points and is cheaper.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Schenn playing 20 minutes a night, DOUGhty getting minutes chopped severely, Andreoff with Kopitar...

I'm still not worried since this isn't how life will be a week from now, but at what point does Sutter straighten up the lines and minutes in preparation?

I'm not even worried about the period ending goals since that's a focus matter that won't happen in the playoffs, but gotta start conditioning guys now.
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This is the ONLY night that Schenn has been playing 20 mins. I don't buy the argument that Doughty and the other d-men are simply being rested. People are comparing this team to the ones in 2012, 2014.. Get a grip people, look at the defense, significantly weaker than the ones in the past. Those who are not alarmed by this team's play of late is in denial of the fact that we're much weaker team going into the playoffs. I don't see us getting passed a hungry San Jose team with this type of play, sorry to say it.
 
Bandit said:
Be cheeky if you want, but the fact remains that if Brown is off the team the day the playoffs end for the Kings, who do we get with his money? Forward or defense? Who?
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I'd lock up Lucic and sign Brian Campbell. He's been a rock on the blueline and a consistent big minute dman for many years.

Campbell is a top 4 dman who can still perform at 20+ minutes. Keep an eye on the 2017 UFA market as well, y'know, in case Tampa can't retain Hedman or if Brent Burns wants to live in Venice Beach.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
I'd lock up Lucic and sign Brian Campbell. He's been a rock on the blueline and a consistent big minute dman for many years.

Campbell is a top 4 dman who can still perform at 20+ minutes. Keep an eye on the 2017 UFA market as well, y'know, in case Tampa can't retain Hedman or if Brent Burns wants to live in Venice Beach.
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Or Jamie Benn wants to stop scoring on the Kings. Isn't Campbell almost 40 years old?
 
Campbell is 36, but look at how durable he is and the minutes he plays. He'd be a monumental upgrade over the pile of **** that they call McNabb and Schenn.
 
Wait Schenn played 20 minutes?!

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ShattStar03 said:
This is the ONLY night that Schenn has been playing 20 mins. I don't buy the argument that Doughty and the other d-men are simply being rested. People are comparing this team to the ones in 2012, 2014.. Get a grip people, look at the defense, significantly weaker than the ones in the past. Those who are not alared by this team's play of late is in denial of the fact that we're much weaker team going into the playoffs. I don't see us getting passed a hungry San Jose team with this type of play, sorry to say it.
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Okay, then be my guest and look at minutes from the past several games.

The last 3 weeks, drew has been in the 24 minute range most nights. Hasn't been over 29 since March 5th. Remember that week he played over 30 literally every night, including 35 minutes once?

The other big difference is when we were more desperate and Sutter was tightening things up, the third pairing wouldn't get over 10 minutes, sometimes in the 7-8 minute range--lately, they don't fall under 14. Hell, previously, our 4th line wouldn't get more than a handful of minutes--now, most nights, NO ONE is under 10.

you can "not buy" it all you want but it's right there in plain sight.

The only thing that doesn't make sense in relation to above is that Kopitar is still getting ridden but eh.

I'm not going to pretend there aren't problems, but they're being magnified by the use of personnel (I won't let go of Sutter CHOOSING Clifford-Versteeg?-Andreoff-Schenn-Scuderi vs. Couture-Thornton-Pavelski-Burns in our zone :laugh:)
 
With a half-assed effort and Luke ****ing Schenn playing 20 minutes, we won 63% of our faceoffs; with 66% possession, we still outhit them. Be worried about the momentary lapses; don't be worried about the big picture.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Okay, then be my guest and look at minutes from the past several games.

The last 3 weeks, drew has been in the 24 minute range most nights. Hasn't been over 29 since March 5th. Remember that week he played over 30 literally every night, including 35 minutes once?

The other big difference is when we were more desperate and Sutter was tightening things up, the third pairing wouldn't get over 10 minutes, sometimes in the 7-8 minute range--lately, they don't fall under 14. Hell, previously, our 4th line wouldn't get more than a handful of minutes--now, most nights, NO ONE is under 10.

you can "not buy" it all you want but it's right there in plain sight.

The only thing that doesn't make sense in relation to above is that Kopitar is still getting ridden but eh.

I'm not going to pretend there aren't problems, but they're being magnified by the use of personnel (I won't let go of Sutter CHOOSING Clifford-Versteeg?-Andreoff-Schenn-Scuderi vs. Couture-Thornton-Pavelski-Burns in our zone :laugh:)
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Ive been looking at his past games minutes and I don't see much of a difference. The games were he was over 30 mins are games that went into OT. Aside from tonight's game I don't see any significant jump in Schenn's minutes either.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
What worries me is the role players struggling against crappy teams. Imagine how much worse said players will look against playoff teams.
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The star players are really going to have to carry them this season. No Williams on the 3rd line scoring 10 goals and 20 points or whatever it was he had. No Richards to bring up to the 2nd line pushing Toffoli to the 4th line.
 
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