Confirmed with Link: [VAN/Pit] Vincent Desharnais, Danton Heinen, Melvin Fernstrom, & 1st (NYR) for Marcus Pettersson (LD) & Drew O'Connor (W)

[EpochLink]

Thats not generally a good way to justify spending more money than you should be IMO.

Rebuild the defense, go from there.

 

[Canucker]

Rebuild the defense, go from there.

Won't argue with that....it's long overdue.

 

[EpochLink]

Won't argue with that....it's long overdue.

Hughes, Hronek and Pettersson is basically our top 3.

Myers, Soucy and Forbert covers the remaining bottom 6.

Whoever is back up will get in, except Juulsen.
Send him to the Chevron near the Langley Bypass

 

[TruGr1t]

Eh fine I guess, great to ditch the deadweight you just freaking signed like yesterday in Desharnais and Heinen.

New Pettersson is a good addition to the top four, and don’t care about the Melvin. Losing the 1st sorta hurts, but was inevitable.

 

[Canucker]

Hughes, Hronek and Pettersson is basically our top 3.

Myers, Soucy and Forbert covers the remaining bottom 6.

Whoever is back up will get in, except Juulsen.
Send him to the Chevron near the Langley Bypass

I always fear the "Myers effect"...he's played well as Hughes' partner for the most part, but I've been waiting for the bottom to fall out...if he can maintain that level of play, it would be huge, but thats not something I have a lot of faith in...having 4 actual top 4 defenders would certainly be nice...hoping Mancini can get a shot.

 

[Vector]

Couple of quick notes as I lay in bed and refuse to get up.

-Canucks didn’t have negotiating rights but intend on extending both Pettersson & O’Connor
-expended to start contract negotiations with them this weekend
-view Forbort and Suter as internal rentals
-don’t want to extend Boeser to 8 years but likes him and are considering their options

 

[arttk]

Depends on cost...we basically handcuffed ourselves in negotiations with him. If they don't re-sign him they're going to look pretty foolish making that trade. So I wouldn't think we're going to be seeing anything resembling a bargain contract when we ultimately re-sign him.

Projected to have 80M in cap when Quinn’s deal is up. We don’t really have that many long term deals.

 

[TruGr1t]

Couple of quick notes as I lay in bed and refuse to get up.

-Canucks didn’t have negotiating rights but intend on extending both Pettersson & O’Connor
-expended to start contract negotiations with them this weekend
-view Forbort and Suter as internal rentals
-don’t want to extend Boeser to 8 years but likes him and are considering their options

Forbort and Suter aren’t worth enough to really worry about flipping. Maybe if you’re extremely lucky you get a low 2nd for Suter and Forbort is like one of those 5th round depth trades. I expect them to make offers to sign for both though.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

What do they mean "internal rentals"?

 

[Vector]

Forbort and Suter aren’t worth enough to really worry about flipping. Maybe if you’re extremely lucky you get a low 2nd for Suter and Forbort is like one of those 5th round depth trades. I expect them to make offers to sign for both though.

Suter I agree. Forbort is the kind of player they’ll use up and replace next season. As another free agent or let one of their rookies take the reigns.

 

[Vector]

What do they mean "internal rentals"?

Aren’t going to extend them but aren’t going to trade them.

Obviously this changes if they fall out of the playoff race.

 

[TruGr1t]

Suter I agree. Forbort is the kind of player they’ll use up and replace next season. As another free agent or let one of their rookies take the reigns.

Depends what he costs, I’d rather have him as depth than a guy like Juulsen.

 

[rypper]

What do they mean "internal rentals"?

I think he means players already on the team, on expiring contracts the team won't trade.

Ie instead of going out and acquiring a rental player on expiring deal, that you're not going to re-sign, for a playoff run, they're just treating players they already have as such.

 

[VintageBure]

Yeah a good second line center and a good second pairing defenseman isn't that bad for a 1st line center

Saying Chytil is a good 2nd line centre is a pretty big reach

 

[PavelBure10]

I'm excited to Ice 4 or 5 competent dmen.

Hughes - Myers
Pettersson - Hronek
Soucy - Mancini

?

Add in Willander at the end of the year and that's one hell of a defense.

It's the forward group that worries me, but I think Boeser will be used as a trade chip at any moment now.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Saying Chytil is a good 2nd line centre is a pretty big reach

He’s probably our default 2C at the moment, but he’s never shown he can consistently carry that load. He’ll get the opportunity.

I wonder if the Canucks try and float something like the DeBrusk deal to Petterson. Give him the years to keep the cost down.

 

[Canucker]

Projected to have 80M in cap when Quinn’s deal is up. We don’t really have that many long term deals.

I don't mind paying the guy what he's due, I just get concerned about overpaying based on his leverage and for what he brings...if we're getting into the $6.5-$7.5m range, I'm not sure that's very good value for his skillset. He might fit like a glove and be everything we need and more and my concerns could be totally unwarranted...hoping so.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Couple of quick notes as I lay in bed and refuse to get up.

-Canucks didn’t have negotiating rights but intend on extending both Pettersson & O’Connor
-expended to start contract negotiations with them this weekend
-view Forbort and Suter as internal rentals
-don’t want to extend Boeser to 8 years but likes him and are considering their options

They didn't have an understanding of Pettersson's demand pre trade? Wow.

Man I hope they keep Boeser. Get him locked up and get more offense beyond him in the Top6. Losing him means they're looking for yet another Top6 forward.

 

[arttk]

I don't mind paying the guy what he's due, I just get concerned about overpaying based on his leverage and for what he brings...if we're getting into the $6.5-$7.5m range, I'm not sure that's very good value for his skillset. He might fit like a glove and be everything we need and more and my concerns could be totally unwarranted...hoping so.

Pay top4 top6 players what they are worth and mine value at the lower end.

If anything long term contract to bring the AAV down wouldn’t be a bad idea especially in a cap world of 110M+.

 

[rypper]

They didn't have an understanding of Pettersson's demand pre trade? Wow.

Wouldn't that technically be tampering?

 

[arttk]

Wouldn't that technically be tampering?

Pens could’ve given permission. It’s not the first time JR has negotiated with his agent so given their history, I don’t think we should worry too much about it.

 

[TruGr1t]

Wouldn't that technically be tampering?

They could have asked for permission, but I’m assuming with the cap they’ve opened up (and the rising ceiling), they’ll just pay him.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Wouldn't that technically be tampering?

Not if they insisted on getting permission to talk to Marcus prior to executing the deal. It doesn't sound like they did.

 

[Canucker]

Pay top4 top6 players what they are worth and mine value at the lower end.

If anything long term contract to bring the AAV down wouldn’t be a bad idea especially in a cap world of 110M+.

But what is he worth? With the new cap projections (which I find difficult to believe will be accurate in 2 years time) what is a reasonable contract for him? I'd probably be ok with a 6x5.5 or maybe 6x6...but if he gets more than that its value is diminishing in a hurry.

 

[dwarf]

Lots of interesting moves. I hate losing Miller, and going forward with the lack of punch in our forward group. Hopefully they flip Chytil before he is a permanent fixture on the ltir. We have basically replaced Horvat and Miller, with Hronek and M Petterson. I expect this team to go all in for playoffs at the deadline again. They need a driving center, to get Boeser and DeBrusk scoring. Probably cost us all our draft picks to get one.