Confirmed with Link: [VAN/Pit] Vincent Desharnais, Danton Heinen, Melvin Fernstrom, & 1st (NYR) for Marcus Pettersson (LD) & Drew O'Connor (W)

[CheckingLineCenter]

He has 709 hits in 491 games, ever time I watch him, he's involved physically around the net and good at protecting the front of the net.

Pens stat keepers notorious for inflating hits. He’s not physical, not a single Pens fan would call him physical.

you were correct he will fight if the moment is right and you are correct he tries to get involved physically (to little avail). His strengths are using his reach and wingspan and stick in combination with positioning/anticipation.

 

[credulous]

Boeser won’t have the chance to walk. By how management seems to be moving, I’d bet there’s a hard deadline on Boeser’s extension well before the trade deadline, and they’ll flip him for another futures package and re-flip those futures.

i dunno. i think there's zero chance they trade him if they are within sight of a wild card spot. unless they completely crater between now and the deadline i think he's a self rental

 

[Canucks LB]

Stop being so negative, they trade I was pretty happy with, but the more I am thinking about it, the more I am starting to be neutral on it

 

[TraderJim]

They've been absolutely ruthless when their signings or acquisitions aren't working out, whether inherited from previous management (Dickinson, OEL, Pearson) or their own (Mikeyev, Kuzmenko, Heinen, Desharnais). Its definitely a plus that they didn't double down on their guys cause it might make them look bad if they moved their recent FA's.

Luckily they are keeping the players/signings that have worked out.

That's honestly the only thing keeping my hope for this management team. At the very least, they've recognized their own mistakes and moved to rectify them relatively quickly.

They need to stop making so many costly mistakes because despite Benning being responsible for the mess they came into, the problems of the last 6 months are entirely self made.

I hope Jake DeBrusk isn't another one that's going to end up costing picks to resolve. Things have soured at an unbelievable rate with this management group.

 

[Brookbank]

This regime just bleeds value constantly and has since day 1. We overpay or undercharge for almost every transaction.

Trading the NYR 1st for Pettersson is a big L. Knew it was going to happen and knew it would be stupid before it happened. Should have been our pick or the higher of the two this year.

Actually it should have been Mynio or Kudryavtsev and a 2nd because EP2 is taking the 3rd paring LD spot and those two won't unseat him so why bother holding on to them at the cost of what could be a 2026 1st.

Two bad trades in a row.

We sold at the absolute bottom on Miller because of a crisis that our own mgmt either caused or spent half a season publicly pouring gasoline over it.

And the defense was only a dumpster fire in the first place because of mgmt's total incompetence with the defense over summer.

There were so many better ways to have handled this year and fixed things. Trade our 1st for Pettersson in November before everything boils over and we're probably comfortably in a playoff spot right now. Make smarter choices in summer or when players moved almost for free this year and we don't get forced into this situation at all. Don't tell Miller to get on EP's ass, literally the dumbest advice ever that even Benning wouldn't have advised.

Yes we will be a better team this year. Yes we desperately needed Pettersson. Hopefully he meets expectations and we extend him to a reasonable deal. The issue isn't the acquisition it's the cost, the constant bleeding of value, and the godawful handling of every situation that put us into this position in the first place.

This is exactly what Jim Rutherford has done at every stop of his career. He was trader Jim before Benning ever had a GM job.

I made a thread on CDC called "anyone but Rutherfraud" for this reason. But I think they did well with the Horvat/Hronek deal and a few of the middle 6 signings.

They shouldn't have bought out OEL either. The consensus at that time was to give OEL another year to figure it out. If we did that, we wouldn't have been so lean on the back end and we wouldn't have this buyout money on the books.

 

[DekeyPete]

I like it if he resigns. Ridding the team of two passengers is good.

 

[Curm]

After thinking about it....hopefully having 3 Petterssons, and two Elias Petterssons is more than a novelty.

Winner: Pens
Loser: John Shorthouse

 

[VanillaCoke]

So Miller, Desharnais, Heinen, Brannstrom, Fernstrom, & Dorrington for Chytil, Pettersson, O'Connor, & Mancini

massive W

Stop being so negative, they trade I was pretty happy with, but the more I am thinking about it, the more I am starting to be neutral on it

Wasn't gonna quote this but you were already on the right track bruh, refer to above and feel better, he's extended 100% with the cap news.

 

[arttk]

Nah they trading Boeser for another 1st or multiple 2nds and using them with our 1st to get another top 4 D.

They will 100% Sign M Pettersson

they need to extend M Petey, no more wasting assets

 

[Bobby9]

Be honest. Outside of Hughes and Sherwood theirs nobody on this team that’s likeable or exciting.

What a boring terrible roster. Lol. Jesus Christ.

We went from a potential contender to the Flames in 1 year.

 

[arttk]

So Miller, Desharnais, Heinen, Brannstrom, Fernstrom, & Dorrington for Chytil, Pettersson, O'Connor, & Mancini

God talk about volume

 

[GranvilleIsland]

I can see the logic since Pettersson is a good LD to have behind Hughes since he won't have an onerous contract like OEL did. If they can't re-sign him then it's a huge L no way around that, for now it feels like an overpayment without seeing the full scope, as I'm sure the cap space won't last long. People expecting the Canucks to stock pile assets while they have Hughes are kidding themselves and are going to be disappointed, the time to do a full retool was when they were first hired and they chose not to.

 

[VIPettersson]

i dunno. i think there's zero chance they trade him if they are within sight of a wild card spot. unless they completely crater between now and the deadline i think he's a self rental

if Hughes is hurt I could see us slipping hard

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

If it were me:

DeBrusk - E. Pettersson - Boeser (until he's traded)
Hoglander - Chytil - Sherwood
Joshua - Suter - Garland
O'Connor - Blueger - Di Giuseppe/Sasson

Hughes - Myers
Pettersson - Hronek
Soucy - Mancini

Lankinen
Demko

 

[krutovsdonut]

I'm f***ing happy to never see Heinen or Desharnais again.

and we paid for that. this is a benning trade paying to unload mistakes because we can't wait.

i don't think marcus pettersson is good enough to make this trade let alone the fact he's an expiring ufa whose agent is going to bend us over now.

what this tells us is this management group is desparate. i sense that idiot aquilini manchild's presence. he must have leverage over them.

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Our D is soft too

@SopelFanThe3rd

 

[Jovofan]

Allvin hates 1st round picks. I like getting MP but this sorta sucks.

 

[wonton15]

i dunno. i think there's zero chance they trade him if they are within sight of a wild card spot. unless they completely crater between now and the deadline i think he's a self rental

I feel like they’ve come out and said they won’t let him walk for nothing somewhere before, but yeah. I would move him.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

@SopelFanThe3rd

Kiss me.

 

[December5th]

Be honest. Outside of Hughes and Sherwood theirs nobody on this team that’s likeable or exciting.

What a boring terrible roster. Lol. Jesus Christ.

We went from a potential contender to the Flames in 1 year.

hoglander and garland are kewl guys

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

 

[Spectrefire]

There's still a chance they could

and we paid for that. this is a benning trade paying to unload mistakes because we can't wait.

i don't think marcus pettersson is good enough to make this trade let alone the fact he's an expiring ufa whose agent is going to bend us over now.

what this tells us is this management group is desparate. i sense that idiot aquilini manchild's presence. he must have leverage over them.

The value for Marcus Pettersson is fine on paper.

He was always going to get a 1st rounder back in this current market.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Stop being so negative, they trade I was pretty happy with, but the more I am thinking about it, the more I am starting to be neutral on it

The trades are not bad in a vacuum. Both of these trades would make sense if we had a clear picture as to what the hell the plan is.

The trades are brutal when you step back and realize we are rudderless.

There is zero direction or commitment to building a cup contending squad. We lack the top end talent up front to compete with the best teams. We are frankly not going to make a run with this squad.

There is also zero commitment to any retool or rebuild. We bring in an asset and immediately ship them out.

It just seems the objective is to put forth a good enough squad to make the playoffs.

 

[arttk]

This is exactly what Jim Rutherford has done at every stop of his career. He was trader Jim before Benning ever had a GM job.

I made a thread on CDC called "anyone but Rutherfraud" for this reason. But I think they did well with the Horvat/Hronek deal and a few of the middle 6 signings.

They shouldn't have bought out OEL either. The consensus at that time was to give OEL another year to figure it out. If we did that, we wouldn't have been so lean on the back end and we wouldn't have this buyout money on the books.

If we didn’t trade OEL last season we 100% would not have had the season we did.

 

[Zanon]

don’t worry guys we’ll get that 1st back after trading Boeser