Confirmed Trade: [VAN/PIT] Marcus Pettersson, Drew O’Connor for Danton Heinen, Vincent Desharnais, Melvin Fernstrom, NYR's c. 2025 1st (top 13 protected)

[Three On Zero]

Yes, I agree, however any chance the team has with re-signing Hughes is contingent on the team being good.

Not adding and then just letting him leave isn't how you build a winning team, every team is better with Quinn Hughes than a 1st round pick from a playoff team two years from now.

I agree, Vancouver also has a better track record through trading/UFA than they do drafting. Vancouver is always going to be an attractive market for free agency.

 

[Bone Density]

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

It seems like the Canucks have targeted an interesting market inefficiency.

Taking the 1st in the Horvat deal and the 1st in the Miller deal and immediately relaying it while the GM of the team on the other side could wishcast a 1st overall pick into the deal.

And it's not literally impossible. But you look at the standings and if the Rangers can't finish ahead of 13 teams, then they will reload and do what they can to finish mid to high the following year. This isn't a team that has the choice of rebuilding.

So this pick would likely be worth less as more time passed, just as the Hronek pick would have gone down a bit in value without the possibility of it being a lottery pick the following year.

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I think people who expect our offense to plummet are incorrect.

Our offense has been horrendously anemic because we had no D to move the puck to our forwards when the Hughes pairing wasn't on.

With MP and Willander coming, we are going to have a team that will be very, very hard to hem into our own zone.

We will finally have guys hitting our forwards in stride.

I can't tell you how utterly pathetic our breakouts have been. Most of our D have also been cycle breakers in the offensive zone. Since when they get the puck, it's off the shin pads, or into the corner for another contested puck.
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I think people are also sleeping on Drew O'Connor.

I've seen a handful of Penguins games the last couple of years and he always pops. I have also seen him play off Crosby fairly successfully meaning he has the hockey sense to play up the lineup, at least for short bursts.

But one of the things that the Canucks lost from last year was speed, size, and forechecking up front. Losing guys like Mikheyev and Lafferty made sense cap-wise, but it also cost us transition speed and forechecking acumen.

So he's a nice add for us to reclaim that identity.

A solid defensive player like MP who can transition the puck will be amazing for unlocking Hughes a bit from having to do literally everything both ways.
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Obviously this trade makes no sense if we don't re-sign one or both so I can only assume that it's almost a fait accompli.

 

[Three On Zero]

Let him get settled in before you start talking numbers, don’t go full Calgary.

 

[Fatass]

Some combination of salary and term that gets 45-50 mil for M. Pettersson.

 

[tnnr]

LOL yeah you don't know hockey.

He’s definitely not Top 5. Top 10 at the tail end probably.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Hurting his legacy how? His legacy is cemented as a top 5 player all time. His age 36- 40 seasons will change that?

Crosby is not totally cemented as a Top 5 player. There's an argument to be made that he is there now, but there's a guy playing currently that could surpass him depending on how his career transpires.

The Top 4 are mostly untouchable. No one else is.

 

[Fatass]

Crosby is not totally cemented as a Top 5 player. There's an argument to be made that he is there now, but there's a guy playing currently that could surpass him depending on how his career transpires.

The Top 4 are mostly untouchable. No one else is.

Who playing now could move ahead of Crosby in the tier of the all time greatest?