Confirmed Trade: [VAN/PIT] Marcus Pettersson, Drew O’Connor for Danton Heinen, Vincent Desharnais, Melvin Fernstrom, NYR's c. 2025 1st (top 13 protected)

[Luigi Lemieux]

This is supposed to be a contending roster?

I like their defense but it looks like they need two top 6 forwards to move back into contender status.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Myers is a good defender who is getting based on 3+ years ago, his game since Foote and Gonchar is night and day.

Forbort is fine, Soucy needs to be rocketed too the moon.

You mixed up Soucy and Juulsen who needs to Be launched to the moon

Hughes is a franchise player
Hronek is strong, but not necessarily excellent yet.
Myers is not a good defender lmao, he's a strong skater, and a solid puckmover, who has good size, but lacks hockey IQ.
Soucy might be a good defender, but he's awful everywhere else.
Forbort is baaaaaddd.
Pettersson is a great defender, good skater, solid puckmover, and underrated offensively, actually pretty productive 5on5.

Easy now. Myers has carried the D this year at times. Crazy, I know.

 

[periferal]

I'm not sure if the Canucks....

1. Have a plan, but don't know how to execute it.
2. Don't have a plan, and are just winging it.

...But their moves are all over the place and they seem to lose every single trade. Bottom line...There's been a lot of talent on the roster over the past few years and they've had 2 playoff appearances in the past decade. I'm sitting way out in the cheap seats on the east coast, but even from here I can see no Canuck fan should have confidence in their management.

 

[Rowlet]

I'm not sure if the Canucks....

1. Have a plan, but don't know how to execute it.
2. Don't have a plan, and are just winging it.

...But their moves are all over the place and they seem to lose every single trade. Bottom line...There's been a lot of talent on the roster over the past few years and they've had 2 playoff appearances in the past decade. I'm sitting way out in the cheap seats on the east coast, but even from here I can see no Canuck fan should have confidence in their management.

They have a pretty obvious plan... stay competitive enough to convince Hughes to sign long term, otherwise he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

In the last 24 hours the Canucks:

Got rid of a locker room cancer that has been publicly feuding with multiple other stars throughout his entire tenure
Acquired a replacement middle 6C
Acquired the best rental D on the market, arguably a top pairing LD filling their biggest hole (2LD)
Cleared roughly 4 million in cap space for this season (will end up being about 11 million at the deadline)
Cleared 4.25 in AHLers that were signed for next season, so they will have roughly 28 million in deadline space next year
Got considerably faster
Improved the bottom 6 while reducing some of the log jam

Without using any of their own picks or major prospects

If the team is still garbage and Hughes wants to leave anyways, sell him to the highest bidder at a future deadline.

Additionally, with Dallas having been rumoured to be involved with both Miller and Markus Pettersson at times, it's likely that the cost on the Pettersson trade was impacted by other teams bidding. There's a reason they picked up both a C and a D immediately after the Canucks' deals went through.

 

[Voight]

I am bullish on that 1st round pick. I think Pittsburgh did really well here. Knowing their luck with getting franchise players just as one is leaving, that pick will end up being McKenna..

Assuming they dont get it this year...

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Assuming they dont get it this year...

The Rangers are not trending to finish above 13th. I wouldn't be so sure that adding Miller helps them in the short term, they are still very much in a storming phase with all the disarray caused by their poor performance and Drury tearing up part of the room.

 

[Fatass]

Assuming they dont get it this year...

Watching the Rangers v the Bruins right now and if they continue to play defensively this soft that pick will be unprotected in 2026.

 

[hockfan1991]

So, this is how Pittsburgh gets McKenna hey?

San Jose says hello

 

[Three On Zero]

This is supposed to be a contending roster?

Vancouver has never been considered a contender.

 

[gritdash60]

I've seen Marcus Pettersson in trade rumours a lot, and now it happened. Can someone tell me what's the big deal about him? Haven't seen many games but stats say he's a big boy who scores 20-30p a season. Probably pretty good defesively as well for all the noise?

 

[Three On Zero]

I like their defense but it looks like they need two top 6 forwards to move back into contender status.

The defence is the glaring issue. Look at the offense without Miller, it was fine yesterday against Dallas. The glaring hole is defence which they are hoping to fill with Pettersson, Willander, Pettersson and Mancini.

Chytil and O’Connor just need to be capable middle 6 players

 

[PuckG]

This is supposed to be a contending roster?

Not a Stanley Cup contender, a wild card contender.

 

[Three On Zero]

I've seen Marcus Pettersson in trade rumours a lot, and now it happened. Can someone tell me what's the big deal about him? Haven't seen many games but stats say he's a big boy who scores 20-30p a season. Probably pretty good defesively as well for all the noise?

Pending UFA for Pittsburgh on a downward trending team. Good offensive upside with average defensive abilities.

 

[gritdash60]

Pending UFA for Pittsburgh on a downward trending team. Good offensive upside with average defensive abilities.

We are now talking about "upside" with a dude who is 28 and has 500 games in the NHL?

 

[Three On Zero]

We are now talking about "upside" with a dude who is 28 and has 500 games in the NHL?

Comparable to what the Canucks were icing with Forbort, Juulsen, Desharnais and Myers. Yes

Upside is always going to be what a player can bring that is currently lacking.

 

[Turin]

Pending UFA for Pittsburgh on a downward trending team. Good offensive upside with average defensive abilities.

His offensive “metrics” are all his transition ability. Nothing to do with offensive skill, of which he has little. When he’s playing well it’s his defense that is valuable.

 

[Fatass]

I've seen Marcus Pettersson in trade rumours a lot, and now it happened. Can someone tell me what's the big deal about him? Haven't seen many games but stats say he's a big boy who scores 20-30p a season. Probably pretty good defesively as well for all the noise?

Reliable top four D are always in demand. When a club that is needing to retool/rebuild has one of these top four D, especially a coming UFA, then other clubs will try and pry him loose. Legit top four D are hard to get.

 

[Three On Zero]

His offensive “metrics” are all his transition ability. Nothing to do with offensive skill, of which he has little. When he’s playing well it’s his defense that is valuable.

Transition plays generate offensive plays. Which in term makes him an offensive player

 

[gritdash60]

Reliable top four D are always in demand. When a club that is needing to retool/rebuild has one of these top four D, especially a coming UFA, then other clubs will try and pry him loose. Legit top four D are hard to get.

Yep, never said they weren't.

Comparable to what the Canucks were icing with Forbort, Juulsen, Desharnais and Myers. Yes

Upside is always going to be what a player can bring that is currently lacking.

Ah ok, misunderstood, i thought you meant by "upside" that he's going to get better in that department (which u did). Upside in that way is true.

 

[Turin]

Transition plays generate offensive plays. Which in term makes him an offensive player

His shot is mediocre, his offensive zone instincts are extremely simple and he’s not got the hands to carry the puck or open up space on the blueline. He’s a defensive defenseman (except this year) who isn’t incompetent offensively.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Sure, but if there's any way to keep him it isn't by rebuilding.

All I'm saying is don't think trading assets for MP will be the reason he stays lol.

But your entitled to go down this route.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Pending UFA for Pittsburgh on a downward trending team. Good offensive upside with average defensive abilities.

That is very much not what Pettersson is.

He's a positionally sound DFD with a nice outlet pass.

 

[Rowlet]

All I'm saying is don't think trading assets for MP will be the reason he stays lol.

But your entitled to go down this route.

Yes, I understand what you're saying, but whatever chance the Canucks have at keeping Hughes long term is contingent on the team being good. If the team doesn't add and bottoms out, Hughes leaves no matter what. If Hughes still wants to leave later, even if the team is competitive, then he can be traded later.

Would you rather try and contend hoping that it makes the best defenseman in the league want to sign long-term? Or just give up, add nothing, hope for the best, and let him walk in two years.

 

[Three On Zero]

Yes, I understand what you're saying, but whatever chance the Canucks have at keeping Hughes long term is contingent on the team being good. If the team doesn't add and bottoms out, Hughes leaves no matter what. If Hughes still wants to leave later, even if the team is competitive, then he can be traded later.

Would you rather try and contend hoping that it makes the best defenseman in the league want to sign long-term? Or just give up, add nothing, hope for the best, and let him walk in two years.

Even if they retool and become a playoff team, if Hughes wants to go, Hughes is going to go. And I have no issues with that personally. Hockey players don’t owe anything to teams they play for.

 

[Rowlet]

Even if they retool and become a playoff team, if Hughes wants to go, Hughes is going to go. And I have no issues with that personally. Hockey players don’t owe anything to teams they play for.

Yes, I agree, however any chance the team has with re-signing Hughes is contingent on the team being good.

Not adding and then just letting him leave isn't how you build a winning team, every team is better with Quinn Hughes than a 1st round pick from a playoff team two years from now.

If he wants to leave, there's nothing you can do, but if you want to convince him to stay, you have to set yourself up to have the best chance at doing that.