Confirmed Signing with Link: [VAN] D Filip Hronek signs extension with the Canucks (8 years, $7.25M AAV)

[Bertuzzzi44]

Great deal for Vancouver. Best Offence from Defence in the league imo.

 

[wedge]

nice deal, IMO. Hronek is still young at 26 and should be efficient for all the duration of the contract. 34 isn't that old for a D.

 

[Zbynek]

These charts are so f***ing stupid man. Just watch the game. I am not a Canucks fan but this guy is a specimen and has passed the eye test pretty much time I've seen him play. Strong, skates well, knows how to contribute offensively without taking away from his defensive game. I'd kill for this guy on the Pens.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Vancouver saw the Nurse deal and figured they better give a third pairing guy the equivalent.

 

[BCNate]

We got his entire prime. Puck moving RD are always a premium, and this is a fair price. He was outstanding until he got hurt, and give us the big shot from the point that we have been missing. This deal works well for us now, and will get better as the cap rises considerably for the next few years. Hughes also benefitted greatly from being paired with Hronek. We have one of the best defensive pairings in the NHL locked in at 15mil for the next 3 years, not going to complaint about that at all.

Vancouver saw the Nurse deal and figured they better give a third pairing guy the equivalent.

3 years younger and 2 mil cheaper. Not the same.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Vancouver saw the Nurse deal and figured they better give a third pairing guy the equivalent.

This take is about as edgy as a marble.

RHD playing on first pairing of team that was one win away from conference finals at a time with a rising cap signs a deal that’s still worth way less than the player you referenced. Like, why bother?

 

[BHD]

The Canucks weren't in a good position on D. Without him, their defense would have been Hughes, Soucy, and Poolman(?). Is it too much? Perhaps... Friedman, though, has talked about the Canucks making decisions on guys. They will probably let some of their depth players walk in order to alleviate this contract.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I don't get the angst. Seems like the going rate for a good defenceman. Especially with the cap going up.

 

[BCNate]

The Canucks weren't in a good position on D. Without him, their defense would have been Hughes, Soucy, and Poolman(?). Is it too much? Perhaps... Friedman, though, has talked about the Canucks making decisions on guys. They will probably let some of their depth players walk in order to alleviate this contract.

With the D version of EP and Willander likely to be on the team for the 25/26 season the cost of our D core will be just fine. By the time they are off their ELCs and Hughes has a new deal, the number will work just fine. The Canucks knew they couldn't afford to lose Hronek, and paid a reasonable price to retain him.

He is far better than many here are claiming, he has the potential to be elite. He showed that prior to getting injured this season.

 

[Szechwan]

Vancouver saw the Nurse deal and figured they better give a third pairing guy the equivalent.

7.5 is equivalent to 9.5 now? What are they up to in the Alberta school system?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

These charts are so f***ing stupid man. Just watch the game. I am not a Canucks fan but this guy is a specimen and has passed the eye test pretty much time I've seen him play. Strong, skates well, knows how to contribute offensively without taking away from his defensive game. I'd kill for this guy on the Pens.

Charts might be the worst thing to happen to the sport. People want other sports to be baseball so much.

 

[Szechwan]

I don't get the angst. Seems like the going rate for a good defenceman. Especially with the cap going up.

Well that's the problem. Hronek had a great season and played a big role in Vancouver's success, and then fell off offensively after getting an elbow injury.

To the computer boys, that means he's bad, and therefore this contract is bad.

 

[Raistlin]

in the end, its a fair deal for a 26 year old rare asset that is nigh irreplaceable these days. Considering his heavy leverage going into arbitration, Silent Bob didnt take a team friendly contract, but this contract is likely going to age well for its duration. Canucks fans should be welcoming this development, now they have a sure fire top pair locked up for long.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

I just think with this kind of contract he needs to be passing both the eye-test and be at least average on the advanced stats test (agree they shouldn't be used as a be-all/end-all). I've seen plenty of HFBoards fanbases pump their players up during a good year and then go super toxic on them if the team regresses.

 

[Rowlet]

Vancouver saw the Nurse deal and figured they better give a third pairing guy the equivalent.

3 years younger, 2 mil cheaper, signed in a rising cap era vs a flat cap era, actually plays first pairing minutes, and improved our #1 to the best defenseman in the league this season.

Nurse's contract was 11.21% of the cap when he signed it, Hronek's is 8.23%.

If Nurse signed that deal this year, he would be making 9.86 million per year.

Edit: Nurse's "equivalency" to this deal would be him getting paid $6.75 per year.

 

[Nopefully]

I thought he was horrible in the playoffs.

Dude couldn't make a pass or tee it up but was solid defensively.

 

[Szechwan]

Reading is hard.

I know, that's why I'm concerned for your school system.

If your thesis is that Nurse isn't a 3rd pairing Dman but Hronek is then lol

 

[Love]

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I just think with this kind of contract he needs to be passing both the eye-test and be at least average on the advanced stats test (agree they shouldn't be used as a be-all/end-all). I've seen plenty of HFBoards fanbases pump their players up during a good year and then go super toxic on them if the team regresses.

This chart says Pettersson was better than Miller this season. Therefore everything else on the chart can be dismissed without further analysis. If your model says Pettersson was better than Miller then your model is shit.

 

[strattonius]

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I just think with this kind of contract he needs to be passing both the eye-test and be at least average on the advanced stats test (agree they shouldn't be used as a be-all/end-all). I've seen plenty of HFBoards fanbases pump their players up during a good year and then go super toxic on them if the team regresses.

It's already been posted.

It doesn't hold much weight.

Advanced stats can be important for context and there isn't a single organization in the NHL that doesn't use then to some extent - but that exent is not these useless xGaR charts. The entire graph loses its credibility numerous times but coincidentally it loses the most credibility having Hronek dead last.

Having nerds flash these bingo cards as some sort of proof that it's a bad signing need some better material.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I can see why Vancouver resigned him but I think he's way overrrated. Devon Toews makes the same money and he's a far superior dman than Hronek is. Hronek was terrible in the playoffs for Vancouver but hopefully he gets better next year.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I can see why Vancouver resigned him but I think he's way overrrated. Devon Toews makes the same money and he's a far superior dman than Hronek is. Hronek was terrible in the playoffs for Vancouver but hopefully he gets better next year.

I would agree with this. I'm not a fan of this player and it's understandable why Detroit moved on. The Canucks were so desperate for a top 4 RHD and this was the best they could get. The player and contract could be worse I suppose?

 

[nucksflailtogether]

I don't get the angst. Seems like the going rate for a good defenceman. Especially with the cap going up.

Maybe half a mill too much after a career season. Oh no.

 

[Double Dion]

I don't think this is a bad deal for Vancouver at all. It's a fair number and he's young enough that the term isn't a problem. He's a 2/3 type and that's what guys like this will make going forward in our little tax hole known as Canada.

 

[BluesyShoes]

I can see why Vancouver resigned him but I think he's way overrrated. Devon Toews makes the same money and he's a far superior dman than Hronek is. Hronek was terrible in the playoffs for Vancouver but hopefully he gets better next year.

Not exactly apples to apples, Toews will be 37 at the end of his 7 year deal, Hronek will be 34 at the end of his 8 year deal. To put it in perspective, when Toews was 26 (Hronek's age) he was traded from the Islanders and signed his first 4 year deal with Colorado.

Hronek is also a RD, which we all know are on the endangered species list.

 

[Curufinwe]

Hockey parents should be forcing their kids to shoot right handed and play D.