Lou is God
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It's always been my impression the Hughes boys were raised right, that money doesn't buy happiness, but you keep trying, it's quite amusing.
Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes
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In what world does San Jose, Seattle or Chicago trade for Quinn Hughes?
All 3 of those teams finished in the bottom 5 this season. You really think they're going to spend the assets required for two seasons of Quinn Hughes and that he'll be happy going to a bottom feeder? A trade to one of those teams would all but guarantee he's going the UFA route in 2 years.
ninetyeight
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Detroit wants to give away four 1st round picks for one year of Luke Hughes? Assuming Luke would ever accept any offer sheet to begin with.
HairyKneel
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It is irrelevant whether he will be happy to go one of those teams. If they choose to deal him this summer they will take the best offer available. Devils fans need to get that through their thick skulls. The acquiring team will then have 12 months to try and get him inked to a long term contract.
There could be 15 teams trying to get him if he's put on the block this summer. Top 5 players in the league that are paid half their worth never go on the market.
Peter Griffin
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Seattle is getting restless and want to start competing, what better way than adding a player like Quinn? All depends on the acquisition cost.
Technically the acquiring team has 24 months to convince Quinn to stay and Detroit could be the place that convinces him to stay since Michigan is his home.
Detroit also has the asset base to build a team around Quinn without destroying their team in acquiring him:
Some of Lucas Raymond, Marco Kasper, Simon Edvinsson, Nate Danielson for example.
Sure, Detroit would make sense. A bit of humble pie for Detroit trading away allot of assets for someone They could have drafted. Detroit could be really good soon. Not sure why He would not sign there just because He wants to play with His Brothers. Maybe His friend Brock will sign in Detroit?
Lol 12 months to try.
Like who is going to give up a ton to get him for 1 season with no hope of resigning him? Some teams might - but the list isn't that big. And the offer is probably similar to what? 2 1sts? for one season? Idk
Also - teams, agents, players talk - like if Quinn doesn't want to go somewhere, but just to NJ - like the other team who is thinking of 'convincing him to stay' is going to be like "Can't wait to give up a ton for a guy who doesn't want to be here." It's weird.
And the boys don't live in Detroit in the off-season - they live in a nice lake house. Spend your 20s winters with your bros in NYC or.....Suburban Detroit?
It's absolutely relevant. Why would a team like San Jose, that's in the midst of a rebuild, trade away a tons of assets for a player like Quinn Hughes knowing that he has zero interest in going to a team that far away from contending and could bolt via free agency in two years? Why would the Sharks trade away a ton of futures to acquire Hughes knowing it would still be a stretch for them to even sniff the playoffs in the next two years?
Sure, you can say that every team would have interest in Hughes - but for some, it just doesn't fit their timeframe. Can you get that concept through your thick skull? I never said that there wouldn't be a number of teams interested or that Vancouver wouldn't just take the best offer, so don't come at me with that crap.
Yeah, I wouldn't rule Seattle out as having interest and they certainly have the cap space to make a massive contract offer. I'm not sure I see them as a team that Quinn would have near the top of his list though as far as signing long-term.
Any acquisition cost for Hughes is going to be high - and I would think even higher for the Canucks to trade him away in the division to such a close geographical rival.
Peter Griffin
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Don’t count out Florida.
If the Canucks do trade Hughes it should signal a rebuild so trading Hughes wherever shouldn’t be an issue. In any case, certain interested teams could just be used as leverage to garner a better return as well. When a player like Hughes comes available almost every team will show some interest at least, just really depends on what Vancouver would be looking for. Maybe they don’t rebuild and move him to Florida for something like Lundell and Forsling and Quinn signs an extension in Miami and his brothers join him later? Lots of possibilities.
I get it, but teams are usually understandably hesitant to deal star players to a rival team unless the offer really blows away the rest. Seattle also seems to be a ways away from contending so I just don't see them as being a good fit for Quinn - surely lots of teams will have interest though.
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Don't pretend you know how any management group is thinking and what they want to do to improve their team for the coming season(s) or what they would be willing to part wih. You're out of your element.
It's a message board, where many of us speculate. Some of us even use logic! That's not "pretending to know what any management group is thinking".
And WTF is "You're out of your element" even supposed to mean?!?
All I know if that you've yet to even remotely attempted to actually provide a counter-argument to anything I wrote. Just a useless post saying essentially that I shouldn't even speculate on the subject, but somehow it's OK when you do.
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You're kind of adorable when you get angry.
I'm merely responding to the swamp creatures that think its a foregone conclusion that Quinn ends up in Jersey. Allvin will take the best deal available and judging from the table scraps offered by the Devils fans, if Fitz sees things through a similar lens, he won't be going to Jersey.
Smoke some Indica my guy.
Yep, figured it'd be yet another useless reply and certainly wasn't disappointed. The good ol' "why you so angry..." tactic - always handy when you can't actual articulate a counter-point.
Anyway, I see this "conversation" is going nowhere as you continue to fail at addressing anything I've actually written.
If you're responding to people (swamp creatures doesn't make a lot of sense given the Devils left the swamp in 2007, but nice try I guess) that think it's a foregone conclusion that Quinn ends up in NJ, then don't quote me when you're doing it as I haven't suggested that's the case. I also haven't commented on what a package from NJ would look like, so again lumping me in makes zero sense.
I also don't really think anyone else has suggested Alvin would take a lesser package from NJ if he were to trade Hughes versus the best deal on the table from another team, as you seem to keep suggesting for some odd reason.
I'm not sure that New Jersey has the room or need for a 12 million dollar defenseman. They have puck moving defensemen. It is a big ask for Quinn to want to play with His Brothers.
Anyways Vancouver has turned into a basket case.
Anyways Vancouver has turned into a basket case.
Why would they sign in Detroit? such a random place to go to. Hughes will either go to NJ (brother reason), stay as a Canuck or go to Florida to play with his friend Tkatchuk, be on a contending team. Detroit is neither a contender or he has any connections to, so why would there be any reason for him to sign there??
vtdevils2k
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Friedman on his podcast today said he expects Devils GM Fitzgerald to inquire on Quinn to NJ this upcoming year...
Will leave it at that. Where there's smoke there's fire.
I will say, I personally have thought Detroit could be a sleeper, but I except him to end up in NJ(The Hughes family has family in the area outside of the parents from what I remember). I think that seed has been planted for some time. We will see what happens...
Will leave it at that. Where there's smoke there's fire.
I will say, I personally have thought Detroit could be a sleeper, but I except him to end up in NJ(The Hughes family has family in the area outside of the parents from what I remember). I think that seed has been planted for some time. We will see what happens...
12 million? Thats pettersson money
Try 15 million minimum and thats if he signed this summer, not in 2 years time. Remember that many team would be gunning for him in FA, if he were to become a free agent. 12 million is a bargain even if his brothers are there.They have to trade some good young players if Hughes is traded. Think Nemec, Casey and Mercer. I doubt Canucks will be interested in NJ 1st round picks or unproven prospects.
vtdevils2k
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I see nothing wrong with that....I personally think and hope it happens this offseason....it's obvious what is going to happen...
FYI, Nemec looked damn good in the playoffs...hes not some throwaway anymore....
Nemec, Mercer, 2026 1st...take it from there...
replace 1st with Casey. Canucks need 2 good D men in case one becomes a bust. NJ 2026 1st will be in 20-30 range and would not be something Canucks would look for at this stage since they still have players signed long term like Debrusk, Hronek, M. Petersson etc. They would need young NHL players that could hit their prime in 1 or 2 years.
The top paid defensemen in hockey are at 11.5 and 11 million. Karlsson and Dahlin. I would say Hughes would be between 12 and 13 plus million. Two years from now it will be more.12 million? Thats pettersson money
And, Detroit nearly made the playoffs and have a future. Hughes has His drawbacks. Other defensemen have allot to offer. Hughes was pounded in last years playoffs. He is still a small player. But, He plays hurt.
He literally cannot sign this summer. The earliest date he can sign an extension is July 1, 2026.12 million? Thats pettersson money
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