Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes

[edevils]

As long as you can get out from under Palat and Dougie you could easily trade for Quinn and not just not cripple your depth but vastly improve your depth. If Vancouver is moving Quinn that signals a rebuild and you could reroute one of those guys through Vancouver and pay them to retain.

I think they'd be foolish to trade Nemec.

 

[Hisch13r]

I think they'd be foolish to trade Nemec.

I wouldn’t even bat an eye at trading Nemec in a deal for Quinn. I wouldn’t bat an eye at trading Nemec in a deal for a star forward or a comparable young forward either.

 

[edevils]

I wouldn’t even bat an eye at trading Nemec in a deal for Quinn. I wouldn’t bat an eye at trading Nemec in a deal for a star forward or a comparable young forward either.

Hopefully the three of them can stay healthy. It's not without risks.

How many games do you think all three of them will play together in their first season?

 

[Evergreen]

Trading Hughes would likely signal the Canucks are rebuilding, so I'd think they would want some top picks and young prospects in return. I'd say the offer starts with two 1st round picks. Then add an A-tier prospect and a roster player.

From the Flyers I think we'd have to offer two 1st rounders, Luchanko/Bump, and Cam York. Steep price.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Trading Hughes would likely signal the Canucks are rebuilding, so I'd think they would want some top picks and young prospects in return. I'd say the offer starts with two 1st round picks. Then add an A-tier prospect and a roster player.

From the Flyers I think we'd have to offer two 1st rounders, Luchanko/Bump, and Cam York. Steep price.

Where’s the A-tier prospect in your offer?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I mean even suggesting that he can be a shutdown defenseman is a stretch just because he's halfway decent at stick checking. He has a long way to go before he can be trusted in his own zone.

This is laughably ignorant. The first few months of the season he looked like Jaccob Slavin.

The only thing he needs is consistency, but he's already shown flashes of being an excellent defensive player.

 

[My3Sons]

This is laughably ignorant. The first few months of the season he looked like Jaccob Slavin.

The only thing he needs is consistency, but he's already shown flashes of being an excellent defensive player.

Maybe if that poster added an AINEC after the laughing emoji we would have crumbled under the weight of such a well thought out position.

 

[nonfactor]

The baldies need to cut bait and trade Quinn while they have a chance to get a boatload for him. Nemec, Mercer, Melovsky, and two first round picks. QH is a game breaker. Hes the straw that stirs the drink. He'd become the best player on the Devils roster. Up until this year he's been durable, although I think he played a bit too much which is why he got injured IMO. The two firsts give the baldies options, along with their own first and Tom Willander ready to make the jump. We all know FA won't want to tear it down, so this is a pretty good way to improve the roster.

 

[Voight]

There's a lot of assuming that he will end up on the Devils.

Every contender is going to be in on this. Even if he tells you he won't sign an extension, you get a top 2 defensemen for two full seasons and two playoff runs.

 

[Evergreen]

Where’s the A-tier prospect in your offer?

How about the 1st round pick from last year who started the season in the NHL as an 18-year old and has been incredible so far in the AHL playoffs? The Hockey News has him ranked #16 amongst all prospects. Pretty disingenuous to say Luchanko isn’t an A-tier prospect.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

There's a lot of assuming that he will end up on the Devils.

Every contender is going to be in on this. Even if he tells you he won't sign an extension, you get a top 2 defensemen for two full seasons and two playoff runs.

100%

The Canucks might also just spite the Devils in that regard too because they know he's headed there in UFA when time comes

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

I think Canunks mgmt have to believe there is a real chance Quinn wants to join his brothers on a team and one that is on an upward trajectory, especially given the shit show the Canucks have been in the locker room the past 2 seasons.

For NJD to accommodate Quinn, Hamilton and his $9.5 mil contract probably has to go off the books. Hamilton can at least replace a large chunk of the offense that the Canucks will be losing on the backend.

If the Nucks want to just get it over with and the Devils are ok to pay to have Quinn 2 seasons earlier, maybe something like Hamilton, Nemec, and Mercer?

Steep price but Hughes just replaces Hamilton's #1 spot and contract so the price for making that upgrade becomes two good young pieces but nothing the Devils can't live without.

So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.

 

[Voight]

100%

The Canucks might also just spite the Devils in that regard too because they know he's headed there in UFA when time comes

Well I don't know if thats guaranteed but point taken.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Well I don't know if thats guaranteed but point taken.

It's evident that Quinn wants to play with Jack and Luke, where else would that be possible in UFA?

 

[Voight]

It's evident that Quinn wants to play with Jack and Luke, where else would that be possible in UFA?

Right and there's the chance to do that even at the end of his career (like with the Niedermayers). It doesn't necessarily have to happen when hes in his prime.

While it's fair to assume a guy would want to play with his brothers, I dont think hes ever flat out said it? Maybe he will have other priorities in two years. Maybe the Devils will have struggled to have any playoff success by then and he wants to join a team thats won cups/went on deep runs recently. There a ton of factors at play here.

 

[D3vilsH0ck3y]

So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.

I know it's a tough pill to swallow but the devils actually went through a similar situation with Zach Parise. Homegrown elite talent at forward was made captain and we made the CUP FINALS the season he became a ufa. There were rumblings he wanted to play with his best friend Ryan Suter in their home state of Minnesota. Parise leaving still hurts me today.

Where there is smoke there is fire, as a devils fan I have no issue with waiting to see what Quinn decides in two years if he makes it to FA. I think if Luke extends long term this summer then the writing will be on the wall for Quinn and he will ultimately come here in two years. If Quinn were a forward this would be a different discussion and I would move lots to get him here today.

Either way GL to you guys crappy position to be in but like I said one that us devils fans know about.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.

Vancouver and their top 5 goalie tandem
Lankinen had a 2.62 GAA and a .902 Save %
Demko had 2.90 GAA and a .889 Save %

Devils unreliable goaltending
Markstrom had a 2.50 GAA and a .900 Save %
Allen had a 2.66 GAA and a .908 Save %

Just pointing out it's funny to call an actual top 5 goalie tandem "unreliable" while assuming your guys are better

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.

The copium is real here.