There's no evidence to suggest that he lied about being punched and his dad was a cop. While his contract does somewhat define his value, so does his playoff production which is certainly considered by competing teams typically more than the things you're suggesting. He's not likely to be available but I'd listen to offers. The Buffalo offer is simply not enough to warrant pulling the trigger. I do like the 8th overall and I do accept taking back Okposo for cap purposes but there's got to be more than that to justify signaling a rebuild when the team has repeatedly stated that they are moving forward trying to compete.
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There's no evidence to suggest that he lied about being punched and his dad was a cop. While his contract does somewhat define his value, so does his playoff production which is certainly considered by competing teams typically more than the things you're suggesting. He's not likely to be available but I'd listen to offers. The Buffalo offer is simply not enough to warrant pulling the trigger. I do like the 8th overall and I do accept taking back Okposo for cap purposes but there's got to be more than that to justify signaling a rebuild when the team has repeatedly stated that they are moving forward trying to compete.
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Is Little even going to play again? Even if so, this doesn't make the Sharks better in any real way.
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And one of the best playoff performers year in and year out. But sure, only bring up the negatives. It's not like he getting traded anyway.
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No it doesn't. Anyone they get at #10 with Little is not going to be better than having Couture.
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Doesn’t fit needs. SJ needs more top six forwards, not to trade one for a D man
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You referred to people "trying to trade him/saying he has negative value."
- The OP who created the trade proposal thread didn't mention it.
- The only person who called him negative value before your post didn't mention it. One better, he clearly outlined the hockey related reasons he believed he had negative value.
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OP posted on the sharks board about how Cooch needed to go because of the comments before the mods deleted the thread.
No disrespect to hertl, but why would the sharks want to unload their best forward? I'd try to make an offer, but the leafs don't really have anyone that fits the criteria or would be of any real interest to the sharks. Nylander maybe, but couture at center>nylander on the wing and the leaf prospect pool is pretty dismal outside of Robertson.
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How is that getting worked up? Because he used cap locks?
He is justified in criticizing such a ridiculous statement considering the the 03 and 15 drafts fall within the 20 years claim. It was an extremely weak take based on no merit to prop up a proposal.
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Because he is not our best forward, makes too much money for too long a term, and really only shows up in the playoffs.
If we can get something of value for him, I would do it. Just like with Goodrow this year, if some team actually thinks Cooch is a 1c and gives us anything close to a 1c return, I would take it and run.
However we are not rebuilding sadly, so guys like Cooch will not be traded unless its for an upgrade, and even then I doubt DW would do it.
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Because it’s the same tired act with him. Almost every thread on this board involving the sharks he’s aggressive with posters, sometimes swearing at them. His previous post, he told someone to ‘f*** off’...it’s a hypothetical trade on a message board. I think me calling him out after telling someone to f*** off over a hypothetical trade is justified.
Also, if you post on a public forum you open yourself up to being called out. That’s a pretty common theme on this board. You just did it to me. Why not practice what you preach and just PM me instead of calling me out?
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You are absolutely right. It was hypocritical of me which is why I had edited out that last portion. Apparently not in time.
I did?
I am ok with trading him, as long as it would be a good hockey trade, Cooch's comments just mean i wont feel as sentimental about it, even though he scored two goals in one of my favorite sharks moments,
more like I was just curious what his value would be to other teams
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Out of curiosity what do you think San Jose needs to do to fix their issues? They have a really weak prospect pool, a lot of aging players locked up long term, little to know workable cap space, and their their best you player owed a 4M raise with zero money coming off the books before then. Couture as a 3 team NTC, with him being a massive Bills fan i would not be surprised is Buffalo is one of those 3 teams. My offer was reasonable for both parties. It allows the Sabres to add a much needed 2C veteran presence to their line up as well as a depth forward that is strong on the PK. On the other hand I allowed San Jose to retool around their younger core players. Moved out a contract that will probably start looking bad in 3-4 years while adding some important draft capital in a very strong top 10 draft. Logically i have you taking back a cap hit that doesnt actually have much negative effect on you since you have no major raises due for the next 3 years.
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I don't see Wilson doing any kind of a tear down. So we're stuck with that.
You want to make us a deal that works for us? Try a deal where Shark fans aren't starting threads pleading for a 1/2C
As you stated, we have nothing behind Hertl and Couture. Nothing
I'd rather Have Cozens than the 8th pick in a draft that's weak on top.
Sammualsson as well
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You are likely very right about Wilson. As for "Sharks fans pleading for a 1/2C" the thread is asking for Couture's value. At the time of my original post I was unaware of the incident that occured with him so I assumed the thread was about selling him for cap space and futures.
I think Hertl could return Cozens but not Couture, the difference in age and the potential of the contract having negative value a few years before it ends lowers his trade value imo. As for Samuelsson, my original offer included another prospect going back to San Jose. I was thinking Mittelstadt but either is fine.
