Speculation: Value of Broberg & Holloway’s next contracts

[Spektre]

Coronato Just got 7 years @ 6.5m/year.
He had 24g & 23a.

I think Holloway could get 8x8 and Broberg I’m hoping for 8 years @ 5

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I'm expecting both to get Similar/Matching Contracts to Thomas and Kyrou.

 

[MissouriMook]

I feel like both would be well advised to wait rather than extending this offseason. Both dealt with injuries, and while both were a pleasant surprise, I feel like both would be leaving money on the table if they don’t use the opportunity to get another solid year under their belt. If the appetite is there to extend long term now, I think Broberg’s deal probably starts with a 6 and Holloway’s probably starts with a 7.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I feel like both would be well advised to wait rather than extending this offseason. Both dealt with injuries, and while both were a pleasant surprise, I feel like both would be leaving money on the table if they don’t use the opportunity to get another solid year under their belt. If the appetite is there to extend long term now, I think Broberg’s deal probably starts with a 6 and Holloway’s probably starts with a 7.

And I think Broberg will play this in a little tougher way than will Holloway.

I think Broberg is starting to understand his value on this roster. He will command more than 8x5m.

 

[ToastedRavioli]

Broberg will get way more than 5M. The cap is going to skyrocket over the next 9 years. I think RFAs are going to be more wary of signing long-term extensions right now if the number isn't super enticing. This might be bold but I'd genuinely be okay with locking up both for 8x8. 8M right now is 9.1% of the cap. In 2027-2028, which would only be Broberg's 2nd year of his extension, 8M could be as low as 7% as projected by the NHL. 7% today is 6.2M. Again, that would only be year two of his deal and 8 million would be the same as 6.2M today. By year 8 it could be drastically low. The new environment heavily encourages locking up young players to long-term deals before the cap explodes. This is why I love the Coronato deal. Obviously he only has one year in the NHL, but he was consistently great in the Flames games I saw. He's only 22 and I expect him to consistently improve.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

If Holloway signs long term at a number starting with 8, it’s a win for the Blues. Coronato is a great deal for Calgary. I’ll be curious to see what Matthew Knies gets. Both him and Holloway were 2 of only I believe 4 or 5 players to hit 25+ goals and 150+ hits.

 

[Stealth JD]

Try to get them both for $7.5M on long-term deals. Thats a lot of security for a couple of guys with a history of injury problems.

 

[542365]

I want them both in the Blue Note for at least the next 8 years. Just entering their prime and both are staples in the top half of the lineup. Would love matching 8x7 or 8x8. Whatever it is, pay the men. They took(and will continue taking) a lot of shit for signing those offer sheets allowing us to acquire them for way less than market value. What we saved in draft capital we might have to pay a bit in cap space but they’re 23 years old and poised to be big time contributors for the next decade. Pay ‘em.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Feel like 8 x 8 sounds right for Holloway next year assuming that he keeps the level of play he was at this year, Broberg feels like 8 years 7m AAV.

 

[LGB]

Yeah I'm fully ready to give Holloway the Thomas/Kyrou deal.

 

[stl76]

Hope the Blues can get Broberg and Holloway signed soon for as long as possible. I'd be willing to go pretty high on AAV too. Contract prices are about to balloon MASSIVELY.

 

[Mike Liut]

I have no problem with 8x8 for both

 

[Stlblue50]

I want them both in the Blue Note for at least the next 8 years. Just entering their prime and both are staples in the top half of the lineup. Would love matching 8x7 or 8x8. Whatever it is, pay the men. They took(and will continue taking) a lot of shit for signing those offer sheets allowing us to acquire them for way less than market value. What we saved in draft capital we might have to pay a bit in cap space but they’re 23 years old and poised to be big time contributors for the next decade. Pay ‘em.

I agree with rewarding them for being bold and signing these offer sheets but at the time both were way overpaid for their limited playing resume.

How many years of RFA are left with them? I’d certainly wait one more year just to solidify what we have in both of them. That Thomas contract is one of the best in the league

 

[STL fan in MN]

Feel like 8 x 8 sounds right for Holloway next year assuming that he keeps the level of play he was at this year, Broberg feels like 8 years 7m AAV.

Currently, I value Holloway a bit higher so this seems about right to me.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Neither guy might not even be interested in extending this summer. Might want to play at least half of next season to see if they can increase their value even more.

Or the Blues could feel the same way - want to see a bigger sample size before committing before they have to.

 

[Cotton McKnight]

My concern with giving them high contracts with the thought of the cap rocketing is that we're looking at an economic downturn in the US. I would say we would need to get into early 2026 before knowing what path we're going down. If things do get bad on the economic front we may expect the cap to rise extremely slowly again, just like the fallout of the COVID years.

Without the potential of economic downturn, hell yeah throw some cash at them and get them locked down.

 

[joe galiba]

My concern with giving them high contracts with the thought of the cap rocketing is that we're looking at an economic downturn in the US. I would say we would need to get into early 2026 before knowing what path we're going down. If things do get bad on the economic front we may expect the cap to rise extremely slowly again, just like the fallout of the COVID years.

Without the potential of economic downturn, hell yeah throw some cash at them and get them locked down.

Economies go up and down, just like the stock market, offering a long term contract shouldn't be evaluated on transitory issues that, if they even happen, will only affect part of the contracts term

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'd be curious what Broberg comes in at. It's tough finding an ideal comp, Guhle might be a pretty good one. I'd feel comfortable paying 6.5. I'd be fine with anything up to 7.5, but that's probably where we start getting into territory where you are paying and hoping he has a bit more in him. Will he have stretches offensively like he had to start the season, or is he more of a 30ish point guy like he was the rest of the season. He's still a guy that will give us 20+ minutes, but 5.5-6.5 vs 7.5 is a different type of dman.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Currently, I value Holloway a bit higher so this seems about right to me.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Neither guy might not even be interested in extending this summer. Might want to play at least half of next season to see if they can increase their value even more.

Or the Blues could feel the same way - want to see a bigger sample size before committing before they have to.

I think it benefits the players more to sign those long-term contracts early.

I also wonder how excited both players may be to re-sign. They’re in such a wildly different position financially and in their career in general than they were 12 months ago.

I would doubt loyalty for the overpayment would be a thought, but I’d be willing to bet they’d be pretty on board with signing reasonable contracts to be core members here now like they blossomed into this year

 

[Mike Liut]

I’ve seen enough of them. They are long term core pieces. 8x8 for both will be a bargain in 3 years.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I’ve seen enough of them. They are long term core pieces. 8x8 for both will be a bargain in 3 years.

I’d do that, but I value Broberg higher than Holloway by a fairly large margin because his position is more valuable.