Vaccination or Negative Test Required for Maple Leafs Games

[Torontonian]

i don't know if it's so much scary as opposed to this entire experiment/campaign having separated the logical from the illogical. Friends I knew before this who I was 100% convinced were logical thinkers have been exposed as nothing but simple minded, scared little lemmings and I still can't believe some of them have turtled up like they have. Just when you thought you knew someone.

just like a knife through a block of butter, society has been cut up and separated into so many different groups. some brave, some afraid, some offended, some laughing, some with light skin, some with dark skin, some with mid-tone skin, some feeling guilty and some feeling no remorse over so many imposed, fake guilt trips. at the end of the day, the past year and a half has totally weakened and fragmented society and forced them all into their little groups. whereas before all of this nonsense it looked like society as a whole was a hell of a lot more united even though it had its problems. a united society is a threat because they are strong. and strong societies overthrow governments and demand and achieve their rights. Just like unions at work. why do you think every single corporation in the west does everything they can to keep a union out of their workplace?? because they don't want their workers/society to have too much power, because socieities with too much power can eventually overthrow governments in charge. same thing here. the governments do not want their societies to have too much power. so when they detect that the people are becoming strong, as apparently we were, they slice the knife through the block of butter by doing what they have done these past 18 months: virus,vaccines,social justice are just a few methods that they chose to employ. Which results in us all hating each other and our power and strength together is now gone. anyone who thinks this b.s. this past year that has exploded all over youtube, twitter, our workplaces, signage on the roads, stickers on the floors and messages over the intercoms in retail stores has been unintentional and an honest policy to fight off some virus that kills less than 1% is still in a coma.

If you think the virus is about the 1% death rate then you're missing the point. The entire point of locking down is so the hospitals don't get over run by people with COVID taking up a hospital bed. If people had Covid and weren't going to the hospital then everything would be fine (AKA like the Flu). Yes you are more then likely going to live if you get covid but the moment doctors are deciding who gets treatment that day for covid or for someone whose come in because they had a stroke or whatever medical reason, is the day we are in serious trouble. At the end of the day vaccines save lives and if you don't want to take one that's your choice to do so as well but the way the world is changing is it looks like they are trying to exile people without vaccines which I don't agree with either.

I am quite curious to see how everything plays out when hockey is back. Wonder if they will have a 50% cap inside or how they do it.

 

[hfman]

If you think the virus is about the 1% death rate then you're missing the point. The entire point of locking down is so the hospitals don't get over run by people with COVID taking up a hospital bed.

appreciate the nice reply but man, this is just circles and circles. more than a year and a half ago we were saying this same thing. taking up a bed, etc etc. it's an old reply now. equating taking up a hospital bed with closing down the entire planet and having to show your documents to see a hockey game is.... a little over the top, no? just a little.

close down the whole world so we don't use up too many hospital beds. So then add more hospital beds. what have they been doing these past 2 years?? surely 2 years has been enough to add more hospital beds?? and add enough staff to manage the situation?

see the chart I posted earlier. 10 deaths out of 3,800 some odd cases across 6 provinces. do we not have enough beds for 10 deaths across 6 provinces? so what happens when that becomes 25 deaths out of 11,000 cases... close down the planet again? this has become so far fetched that we're approaching the point of no return unless people start coming out of their comas... but we were saying this 18 months ago and not much has changed so yeah. this thing is being milked for every last penny and we all have to suffer for it. we're screwed

 

[BayStBullies]

got a friend who has 2 shots. still wears a mask, won't go outside. writeoff

but on to the point..



so the ACC or whatever they're calling it these days allows anyone who has both shots to walk right in untested. and all these people can be carrying this virus and can also pass it on to anyone and everyone inside. Yet the ONLY way to ensure 100% safety is to require everyone who walks in is to instead provide a false test result.... no??????

so screw the "2-shots and you're allowed in" scenario since every single one of them could be carrying the virus. how about "everyone must submit a false test result" before entry to ensure 100% safety? isn't that what this is about--- safety?

haha this is classic. it's all about keeping us safe right? lol

going on two years of this show and people are still eating this baby food... it's funny because babies stop being spoonfed after two years but here we are with all these scared lemmings still spoonfeeding

how long will you all accept this before you start to ask questions? 3 years? 4, or 5? well we're already coming up on 2 now

I honestly can't tell if this is a shit post similar to the flat earthers. So many of you are so dense, that it's impossible to tell where the line was crossed.

 

[hfman]

you can't think outside your own box. your line of thinking is very limited.

you're not seeing the bigger picture. let me help you.

society has never been more divided. you think i'm a wack job. correct? but the funny thing is, I think YOU'RE a wack job.

so who's right? who's wrong? Am i a wack job because I think this whole thing has been oversold like a fake infomercial? or are you a wack job because you wear your mask to bed even after taking both shots?

either way it doesn't matter. what DOES matter is that you and i are as far apart as can be. our thoughts and ideas are on opposite ends of the spectrum, just like everyone else.

we now have a society that is laughing at eachother, hating eachother. we have people who gladly wear a mask while in the shower and others who absolutely refuse to wear it. and both sides HATE eachother.

some of us are totally sold on this whole fiasco, while others refuse to believe anything about it.

we couldn't be further apart, could we? it's fascinating actually.


the end game here is a total breakdown of society. you hate me, i hate you, you think i'm crazy, i think you're crazy.

you think you're right, i think i'm right. you're wrong, i'm wrong.

never in our lifetimes has society been this divided and segregated into our own little groups. we are separated and divided and the hate amongst us is widespread. even a small-box thinker like yourself can see this.

hopefully you'll be able to think outside your little box and look at the bigger picture one of these days.

 

[Cas]

you can't think outside your own box. your line of thinking is very limited.

you're not seeing the bigger picture. let me help you.

society has never been more divided. you think i'm a wack job. correct? but the funny thing is, I think YOU'RE a wack job.

so who's right? who's wrong? Am i a wack job because I think this whole thing has been oversold like a fake infomercial? or are you a wack job because you wear your mask to bed even after taking both shots?

either way it doesn't matter. what DOES matter is that you and i are as far apart as can be. our thoughts and ideas are on opposite ends of the spectrum, just like everyone else.

we now have a society that is laughing at eachother, hating eachother. we have people who gladly wear a mask while in the shower and others who absolutely refuse to wear it. and both sides HATE eachother.

some of us are totally sold on this whole fiasco, while others refuse to believe anything about it.

we couldn't be further apart, could we? it's fascinating actually.


the end game here is a total breakdown of society. you hate me, i hate you, you think i'm crazy, i think you're crazy.

you think you're right, i think i'm right. you're wrong, i'm wrong.

never in our lifetimes has society been this divided and segregated into our own little groups. we are separated and divided and the hate amongst us is widespread. even a small-box thinker like yourself can see this.

hopefully you'll be able to think outside your little box and look at the bigger picture one of these days.

I don't know about Canada, but I seem to recall a time where 600,000 Americans shot each other in a span of four years. Social divisions today aren't even in the same ballpark as they've been many times before.

 

[Alamo Leafer]

Require proof of triple vax from habs & sens fans + tests between periods & before leaving the building.

Maybe they'll think twice before showing up in our house

 

[Racer88]

I used to argue with anti vax people but now I’m just there for the comedy

 

[Seras]

10 deaths out of 3879 cases. that's something like 1/5 of 1%. all likely 80 and up who were already sick, which would be par for the course in any of the previous 100 flu seasons

yet the lemmings applaud having to show your papers to enter a hockey game for this. wtf lol.

unreal how many people are still sleeping

They can take our freedom of speech, they can take our legal system, heck they can even make police officers the enemy.. But they'll never take my right to not be vaccinated!!! 11

 

[ACC1224]

you can't think outside your own box. your line of thinking is very limited.

you're not seeing the bigger picture. let me help you.

society has never been more divided. you think i'm a wack job. correct? but the funny thing is, I think YOU'RE a wack job.

so who's right? who's wrong? Am i a wack job because I think this whole thing has been oversold like a fake infomercial? or are you a wack job because you wear your mask to bed even after taking both shots?

either way it doesn't matter. what DOES matter is that you and i are as far apart as can be. our thoughts and ideas are on opposite ends of the spectrum, just like everyone else.

we now have a society that is laughing at eachother, hating eachother. we have people who gladly wear a mask while in the shower and others who absolutely refuse to wear it. and both sides HATE eachother.

some of us are totally sold on this whole fiasco, while others refuse to believe anything about it.

we couldn't be further apart, could we? it's fascinating actually.


the end game here is a total breakdown of society. you hate me, i hate you, you think i'm crazy, i think you're crazy.

you think you're right, i think i'm right. you're wrong, i'm wrong.

never in our lifetimes has society been this divided and segregated into our own little groups. we are separated and divided and the hate amongst us is widespread. even a small-box thinker like yourself can see this.

hopefully you'll be able to think outside your little box and look at the bigger picture one of these days.

Should be a good game.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

appreciate the nice reply but man, this is just circles and circles. more than a year and a half ago we were saying this same thing. taking up a bed, etc etc. it's an old reply now. equating taking up a hospital bed with closing down the entire planet and having to show your documents to see a hockey game is.... a little over the top, no? just a little.

close down the whole world so we don't use up too many hospital beds. So then add more hospital beds. what have they been doing these past 2 years?? surely 2 years has been enough to add more hospital beds?? and add enough staff to manage the situation?

see the chart I posted earlier. 10 deaths out of 3,800 some odd cases across 6 provinces. do we not have enough beds for 10 deaths across 6 provinces? so what happens when that becomes 25 deaths out of 11,000 cases... close down the planet again? this has become so far fetched that we're approaching the point of no return unless people start coming out of their comas... but we were saying this 18 months ago and not much has changed so yeah. this thing is being milked for every last penny and we all have to suffer for it. we're screwed

It's true not much new has been said in the last year and a half but that doesn't make it untrue. Keep in mind Ontario had 900 people in ICU beds just a few months ago with Manitoba asking us to take some of their patients at the same time. I heard someone on the radio say 350 ICU beds filled with Covid patients is the threshold of when they have to start making decisions on who does and doesn't get treatment. And we had 900!

 

[mapleleafs34]

If you think the virus is about the 1% death rate then you're missing the point. The entire point of locking down is so the hospitals don't get over run by people with COVID taking up a hospital bed. If people had Covid and weren't going to the hospital then everything would be fine (AKA like the Flu). Yes you are more then likely going to live if you get covid but the moment doctors are deciding who gets treatment that day for covid or for someone whose come in because they had a stroke or whatever medical reason, is the day we are in serious trouble. At the end of the day vaccines save lives and if you don't want to take one that's your choice to do so as well but the way the world is changing is it looks like they are trying to exile people without vaccines which I don't agree with either.

I am quite curious to see how everything plays out when hockey is back. Wonder if they will have a 50% cap inside or how they do it.

Funny thing is, a close friend of mine works at a hospital and when the news outlets were saying "hospital beds are at capacity in all hospitals", the hospital beds at her hospital were completely empty.

 

[mapleleafs34]

got a friend who has 2 shots. still wears a mask, won't go outside. writeoff

This. I actually think the people that are double vaxxed are still more scared than the unvaxxed. Actually makes no sense.

 

[The CyNick]

7 day average Covid deaths in Canada is at 4 right now. Sad about those 4 people, but how many people die from heart disease and we're still selling greasy hamburgers.

Don't know how many of those 4 died with Covid or of Covid.

The one good thing is at least the common flu has been defeated so that's saved a lot of deaths and freed up a lot of hospital beds.

I recommend increases in vitamins B, C and D during periods when cases are increasing. Also zinc. Eat better. Exercise if you are able to. Even if you get covid you'll defeat it very easily. That's the real path to normalcy.

 

[egd27]

You missed the shit show. I'd guess a good 10 to 15 posts have already been deleted.

Ahhh.....that makes more sense.

 

[Gary Nylund]

This. I actually think the people that are double vaxxed are still more scared than the unvaxxed. Actually makes no sense.

It's not surprising though. Unvaxxed people are mostly conspiracy theorists who aren't the least bit afraid of Covid (until they're in the hospital).

7 day average Covid deaths in Canada is at 4 right now. Sad about those 4 people, but how many people die from heart disease and we're still selling greasy hamburgers.

Don't know how many of those 4 died with Covid or of Covid.

The one good thing is at least the common flu has been defeated so that's saved a lot of deaths and freed up a lot of hospital beds.

I recommend increases in vitamins B, C and D during periods when cases are increasing. Also zinc. Eat better. Exercise if you are able to. Even if you get covid you'll defeat it very easily. That's the real path to normalcy.

It's not as simple as counting the number of deaths. I know of one relatively young and otherwise healthy person who got it 9 months ago, has had ongoing complications to his nervous system which led to him recently having his leg amputated. That's just one example but it's not something that shows up in the stats that are fed to us. And the thing is also this, you can talk all you want about how small the numbers are but the reason they're "small" is because of mask mandates and lockdowns etc., me personally, I'm more than happy to be living in Canada as opposed to say Florida.

 

[Rob Brown]

I still remember growing up in Ontario and getting vaccines/shots in schools every year and no parents whined like they do today.

I know a guy who spent months whining about lockdowns, calling Canada the new North Korea etc., claimed he'd get the vaccine when he could and of course he didn't and got Covid recently. Then he whined about being sick and said it was awful. Can't have it both ways.

7 day average Covid deaths in Canada is at 4 right now. Sad about those 4 people, but how many people die from heart disease and we're still selling greasy hamburgers.

Don't know how many of those 4 died with Covid or of Covid.

The one good thing is at least the common flu has been defeated so that's saved a lot of deaths and freed up a lot of hospital beds.

I recommend increases in vitamins B, C and D during periods when cases are increasing. Also zinc. Eat better. Exercise if you are able to. Even if you get covid you'll defeat it very easily. That's the real path to normalcy.

Sure, but the whole point is that vaccinations obviously help in addition to other approaches. It's not that difficult.

 

[The CyNick]

It's not surprising though. Unvaxxed people are mostly conspiracy theorists who aren't the least bit afraid of Covid (until they're in the hospital).



It's not as simple as counting the number of deaths. I know of one relatively young and otherwise healthy person who got it 9 months ago, has had ongoing complications to his nervous system which led to him recently having his leg amputated. That's just one example but it's not something that shows up in the stats that are fed to us. And the thing is also this, you can talk all you want about how small the numbers are but the reason they're "small" is because of mask mandates and lockdowns etc., me personally, I'm more than happy to be living in Canada as opposed to say Florida.

I would always rather be in the place where you have the most freedom.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I would always rather be in the place where you have the most freedom.

Where would that be?

 

[Rob Brown]

I would always rather be in the place where you have the most freedom.

The whole point of vaccinations is to help stop the spread and the severity of infections so that we can get back to normal. It's truly ironic to say that vaccinations are "against my freedom" when in reality they are going to help solve the problem, but whatever. The whole anti movement only exists among those whining the most about lack of freedom.

 

[The CyNick]

I still remember growing up in Ontario and getting vaccines/shots in schools every year and no parents whined like they do today.

I know a guy who spent months whining about lockdowns, calling Canada the new North Korea etc., claimed he'd get the vaccine when he could and of course he didn't and got Covid recently. Then he whined about being sick and said it was awful. Can't have it both ways.

Sure, but the whole point is that vaccinations obviously help in addition to other approaches. It's not that difficult.

I have zero problem with vaccinations. I have a problem with creating a two tier society where people are forced into making decisions about their health care that they don't want to just to live a normal life.

In the case of school vaccinations they have always been optional.

 

[4thline]

In the case of school vaccinations they have always been optional.

And when there is an local outbreak of a given disease that certain children were unable to get vaccinated or had their parents opt them out those children are removed from school until it's over.

 

[Rob Brown]

I have zero problem with vaccinations. I have a problem with creating a two tier society where people are forced into making decisions about their health care that they don't want to just to live a normal life.

In the case of school vaccinations they have always been optional.

Yeah, and no one whined about it.

 

[The CyNick]

The whole point of vaccinations is to help stop the spread and the severity of infections so that we can get back to normal. It's truly ironic to say that vaccinations are "against my freedom" when in reality they are going to help solve the problem, but whatever.

Not true. CDC first said wear masks to get back to normal. Then it was get vaccinated to return to normal. Then it was wear masks plus vaccinations to return to normal. Now it's going to be get a third vaccination to return to normal. Then it will be triple vaxx your kids to return to normal. Then it will be keep your vaccination passport updated with monthly or quarterly boosters to return to normal.

You eventually turn around and realize nothing about this is normal.

 

[Rob Brown]

Not true. CDC first said wear masks to get back to normal. Then it was get vaccinated to return to normal. Then it was wear masks plus vaccinations to return to normal. Now it's going to be get a third vaccination to return to normal. Then it will be triple vaxx your kids to return to normal. Then it will be keep your vaccination passport updated with monthly or quarterly boosters to return to normal.

You eventually turn around and realize nothing about this is normal.

Yeah, it's not f***ing normal, but we got out of the spring lockdowns and mess because the vast majority of Ontarians got vaccinated, and now it's getting worse among unvaccinated people. I know it's not normal and it's super frustrating, but it's clear that vaccines help, so I don't know why people fight it. And yeah, guidelines and approaches have changed over the last year because it's an evolving virus.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Not true. CDC first said wear masks to get back to normal. Then it was get vaccinated to return to normal. Then it was wear masks plus vaccinations to return to normal. Now it's going to be get a third vaccination to return to normal. Then it will be triple vaxx your kids to return to normal. Then it will be keep your vaccination passport updated with monthly or quarterly boosters to return to normal.

You eventually turn around and realize nothing about this is normal.

So what would normal be?