Confirmed Signing with Link: [UTA] F Dylan Guenther signs extension with the Utah Hockey Club (8 years, $7.14M AAV; begins 2025-26)

[Schemp]

Who honestly wanted to pay attention to the Coyotes in recent years?

ME!

 

[Fatass]

Something about the NHL has been broken, where unknowns like this with very little proven success are handed these types of contracts.

this^^^
Totally foolish contract.

 

[Schemp]

Something about the NHL has been broken, where unknowns like this with very little proven success are handed these types of contracts.

?? He still has this season to prove if he deserves it and I'm sure he will exceed expectations. So now you know. Keep your eye on Spicy Dil!

 

[nbwingsfan]

I don’t even understand why people make these posts…even if you aren’t a big NHL fan and haven’t heard of him, you can take 30 seconds to look it up.

People make comments like these because they are trying to be willfully ignorant to emphasize their “shock” at something.

I mean even if he looked him up, that might make it’s even more confusing why he got so much…

I have no idea how to tabulate it, but is this the highest contract a forward who has 50 or less NHL points has ever received?

I completely understand why they did it because he has potential… but sheesh that’s a ton of money for 50 career points

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I’d say it’s less of a gamble that he will be worth his contract in his prime than when GMs overpay for UFAs that will be on the decline mid way through their deals.

 

[seanlinden]

Philosophically.... this is the right thing to do.

You know the cap is jumping big within the next 2-3 years. You're not a spectacularly good team today, you have tons of cap space and are likely to have plenty over the next 2-3 years, who cares if you're overpaying Guenther by $4m in the first year or two of that deal.

That being said -- this is a pretty big bag to give a guy that's played a total of 1 NHL season thus far in his career. At $7m, he must be at least a high quality 2nd line winger to not have this be a bad deal in 3-4 years.

 

[rt]

I’d say it’s less of a gamble that he will be worth his contract in his prime than when GMs overpay for UFAs that will be on the decline mid way through their deals.

Great point.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Maybe it says more about me but I've never even heard of him.

 

[Schemp]

I mean even if he looked him up, that might make it’s even more confusing why he got so much…

I have no idea how to tabulate it, but is this the highest contract a forward who has 50 or less NHL points has ever received?

I completely understand why they did it because he has potential… but sheesh that’s a ton of money for 50 career points

It isn't about potential, it's about expectations! I find it amusing all these posts suggesting that it might bite Utah on the ass. It's as though they don't know GMBA. An 8 year contract? To me that is unheard of. It's not about the money, it's about Armstrong giving out that term. And this early. He has a reputation to wait until after the season is over before handing out smaller term contracts. He has confidence in Dylan to get it done early and I'm sure Dylan likes that it's front loaded. The expectation is that he will earn it this upcoming season, his last year on an ELC. The team will be one of the surprises this season! This is finally the kind of team Bill Armstrong wanted.

 

[Half Clapper]

It isn't about potential, it's about expectations! I find it amusing all these posts suggesting that it might bite Utah on the ass. It's as though they don't know GMBA. An 8 year contract? To me that is unheard of. It's not about the money, it's about Armstrong giving out that term. And this early. He has a reputation to wait until after the season is over before handing out contracts. He has confidence in Dylan to get it done early and I'm sure Dylan likes that it's front loaded. The expectation is that he will earn it this upcoming season, his last year on an ELC. The team will be one of the surprises this season! This is finally the kind of team Bill Armstrong wanted.

I am a big BA fan, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. This team hasn't done anything yet! This is still a risky contract at this stage. I would have preferred to at least seen a full year of Guenther before committing this amount of cash/term.

 

[Schemp]

I am a big BA fan, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. This team hasn't done anything yet! This is still a risky contract at this stage. I would have preferred to at least seen a full year of Guenther before committing this amount of cash/term.

And then there is the risk where he deserves more money. That is the real risk in my opinion.

 

[Half Clapper]

And then there is the risk where he deserves more money. That is the real risk in my opinion.

There is a risk both ways. Will find out. This guy was in the AHL last season ffs...

 

[sxvnert]

Given the cap increases it should be a deal for Utah.

 

[nergish]

Like the player, and this should work out decently for Utah going forward.
But is the least proven/experienced player to ever sign a 50+ million dollar contract?

 

[MOGlLNY]

Who?

I'm not kidding, never heard that name once and now he's making +7M?

Your lack of knowledge has no barring on his ability as a hockey player

 

[Hennessy]

This is a joke, right?

 

[WatchfulElm]

Josef Marha must be : "Damn, I had 18 pts in 23 games on my rookie season, but no GM was crazy enough to throw $56M at me in my days".

Not a bad thing, considering that turned out to be his best NHL season. Hopefully Guenther is better than Marha.

I think most of these expensive long term contracts offered to promising rookies will turn out well. But I'm pretty sure a few of them will turn very, very ugly. Imagine Josef Marha with such a contract and how it would handicap that team for 8 long years!!

P.S. Yes I took Marha in my hockey pool the following season and I still carry a trauma about it.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I get the reason for locking up young talent at what could be a bargain cap hit down the road, but a few of these are absolutely going to burn teams

 

[Kshahdoo]

Bigger money than Kaprizov got after just one season...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Which isn't too be sniffed at but doesn't get you much more than a 4th liner. Is there going to be a huge cap jump that significantly change the market?

Or a $6M player instead of a $4.5M

 

[Double Dion]

This is the most absurd contract the NHL has ever seen. I don't think this has any chance of being a value deal at any point of it.

 

[Breakers]

Restricted free agency is dead.

 

[Scumbag Frank]

Well Canucks fans certainly know all about Guenther



The silver lining is this was the trade that got his ass fired

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Can a person still sign multiple contracts in Utah, or is one contract the limit?

 

[Schemp]

There is a risk both ways. Will find out. This guy was in the AHL last season ffs...

It's good that the franchise uses the A as a developing league. It's telling that the last 2 seasons he didn't play 82 games in each. Not that he couldn't, but that his game & body wasn't mature enough and not taking any chances that he picks up any bad habits like forcing his game, treating it like a job, and letting his defense lapse. IMO, the real reason that BA signed him now is he is convinced that Dylan can play the full season with a winner's mentality and next year when the contract starts, it will look like a bargain, a young 1st line scoring RWer with a cap hit of just over $7M. And then it's time to sign Cooley...