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[John Price]

Refusing to pay for a shitty movie is more of your moral rationalization.

How are only okay with piracy in certain situations?

Because piracy is not an all or nothing

it works in certain situations and is wrong in others, mainly based on accessibility

Like it's okay to pirate Fugueuse because there's literally no legal way to watch in America

But if something like Breaking Bad is out in America just pay the money

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

Because piracy is not an all or nothing

it works in certain situations and is wrong in others, mainly based on accessibility

Like it's okay to pirate Fugueuse because there's literally no legal way to watch in America

But if something like Breaking Bad is out in America just pay the money

All of that is separate from you claiming it's okay to pirate a movie that sucks.

 

[John Price]

All of that is separate from you claiming it's okay to pirate a movie that sucks.

I said I could see where you were coming from saying you wouldn't pay money for MoS since it was shitty but personally for me I'd just find a free legal copy or record it when it was on TV

 

[John Price]

Piracy

- find a torrent

- find someone who's seeding

- wait x hours for movie to finish downloading

- allocate who knows how much disk space on your drive to watch

- delete after watching because it's shit

Or

Streaming service / DVR

- pay 4 dollars

- watch immediately

Wonder which takes less steps?

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

I said I could see where you were coming from saying you wouldn't pay money for MoS since it was shitty but personally for me I'd just find a free legal copy or record it when it was on TV

I see no functional difference between me downloading it and you recording it, we're both making a copy for personal viewing at a later date.

Sure, you pay for Youtube TV, but it's not like that's putting money in Zack Snyder's pocket.

 

[John Price]

You don't see the problem behind illegally downloading a video and legally recording a video

 

[John Price]

That being said if it was a sports game it would be the same thing

Thinking emoji

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

Piracy

- find a torrent

- find someone who's seeding

- wait x hours for movie to finish downloading

- allocate who knows how much disk space on your drive to watch

- delete after watching because it's shit

 

[John Price]

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

You don't see the problem behind illegally downloading a video and legally recording a video

That's not what I said.

There's no functional difference because we're both making a copy of something.

Sure, you pay for Youtube TV, so you're "legally allowed" to record stuff, but you're still making a copy of something that isn't yours.

It's okay to record a copy of a TV broadcast, but it's not okay for me to acquire a copy of that same TV broadcast?

What if it were something broadcasted OTA, that I have legal access to? Considering I had the opportunity to record it, would it be legal for me to acquire a copy of it?

Are you beginning to see that it's all semantics bullshit that doesn't really matter?

 

[John Price]

You can't see that downloading something off bittorrent is illegal?

 

[John Price]

If you want to justify illegality fine but one is a legal means of procuring a movie and one is clearly illegal

I mean this is not up for debate

The FBI arrested no grandmas for sharing CD's

they arrested for file sharing services

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

You can't see that downloading something off bittorrent is illegal?

There are legal torrents.

All the linux distros have torrents, for example.

 

[John Price]

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

If you want to justify illegality fine but one is a legal means of procuring a movie and one is clearly illegal

It's like you completely ignored all of the hypothetical questions I asked, where I questioned what dictates legality

 

[John Price]

To be fair that video agrees with your point that stealing / "downloading" videos and or music only robs the artists out of a minor convenience

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

Making copies of CDs and cassettes is just as illegal as downloading music, yet no one gives a shit about it

 

[John Price]

On the other hand that was before Spotify

Spotify has basically made illegal music downloading irrelevant

 

[John Price]

It's like you completely ignored all of the hypothetical questions I asked, where I questioned what dictates legality

It's not hard

- downloading a torrent illegal

- downloading off a stream illegal

- paying to watch a stream off a streaming service legal

- recording the movie on DVR legal

 

[Oogie Boogie]

It's Friday Junior

 

[John Price]

At no point was downloading anything off torrents legal

You download off torrents and hide your IP address BECAUSE it's illegal

You can't discuss it openly on HF most of the time BECAUSE it's illegal

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

Let's say I fell asleep while watching Man of Steel on FXX.

Had I hit the record button, I could go back and watch the movie and skip all the commercials.

However, I didn't hit the record button, so now I have no legal claim to ever watch Man of Steel unless I either pay for it or wait until it's on FXX again.

I'm sorry but that's f***ing dumb.

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

At no point was downloading anything off torrents legal

You download off torrents and hide your IP address BECAUSE it's illegal

You can't discuss it openly on HF most of the time BECAUSE it's illegal

There are legal torrents.

All the linux distros have torrents, for example.

 

[Sega Dreamcast]

Is torrenting legal or illegal?

Torrenting itself isn’t illegal, but downloading unsanctioned copyrighted material is.

If you don't understand that, what the f*** is the point of this discussion