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[John Price]

I'm so "anti-JYP" that I think ITZY have the best group of dancers amongst girl kpop groups.

I also didn't say Twice was not talented. What I said is like saying Crosby is better than Nicklas Backstrom.

the logical fallacy is assuming that Twice is that low in talent

 

[John Price]

That is like saying that Ben Chiarot is "objectively more talented overall" than hedman

it is simply a lie

 

[Kairi Zaide]

the logical fallacy is assuming that Twice is that low in talent

Considering I said "as much as I like Twice", the most logical conclusion was that Dreamcatcher was just a notch above, not that Twice was untalented.

 

[John Price]

The appeal of Dreamcatcher is that they meld unconventional rhythm to kpop. You are severely overrating their talent level and skill.

 

[John Price]

Considering I said "as much as I like Twice", the most logical conclusion was that Dreamcatcher was just a notch above, not that Twice was untalented.

Nothing about what you said had any factual merit though

In what way would Dreamcatcher be better than TWICE

 

[John Price]

Even TheBias List gave them both a 9

 

[Kairi Zaide]

The appeal of Dreamcatcher is that they meld unconventional rhythm to kpop. You are severely overrating their talent level and skill.

oof

go tell that to any voice or dancing coach

Dami is a better rapper than Dahyun and Chaeyoung. These two are good in "cutesy" or "melodic" rap, but Dami just has better flow and delivery. Siyeon's vocal range is absolutely ridiculous, and if you thought Nayeon and Jihyo's high notes in ICSM were amazing, I don't know what you'd say about Siyeon's. And she's, like, ridiculously stable. SuA, Yoohyeon and JiU are also amazingly stable with a wide vocal range. Dancing wise, SuA is ridiculously sharp and precise. Momo's very good too, don't get me wrong, but she doesn't have as much sharpness as Sua.

The only thing I'd put Twice above Dreamcatcher is at having more visual (aka being pretty/cute) appeal - and this is not a "talent".

 

[John Price]

oof

go tell that to any voice or dancing coach

Dami is a better rapper than Dahyun and Chaeyoung. These two are good in "cutesy" or "melodic" rap, but Dami just has better flow and delivery. Siyeon's vocal range is absolutely ridiculous, and if you thought Nayeon and Jihyo's high notes in ICSM were amazing, I don't know what you'd say about Siyeon's. And she's, like, ridiculously stable. SuA, Yoohyeon and JiU are also amazingly stable with a wide vocal range. Dancing wise, SuA is ridiculously sharp and precise. Momo's very good too, don't get me wrong, but she doesn't have as much sharpness as Sua.

The only thing I'd put Twice above Dreamcatcher is at having more visual (aka being pretty/cute) appeal - and this is not a "talent".

So now you are a dancing or voice coach now? I know you are arrogant and believe you can do anything (even filing in as the executive chef at Panache / Chez Muffet) but this takes the cake

 

[John Price]

also nobody knows any of the people you mentioned

if you're this high on underrated bands go hype up MAMAMOO which is pretty good

 

[John Price]

This comes off as such a "fangirl" / stan / bias post it's tough to read

You are Paul Heymaning mediocre talent and hyping them up as good

like Heyman and Rusev "NOBODY FIGHTS BETTER THAN RUSEV HE IS THE BEST " rofl you're blowing smoke up their ass genius

 

[Kairi Zaide]

also nobody knows any of the people you mentioned

if you're this high on underrated bands go hype up MAMAMOO which is pretty good

I'm no fan of Mamamoo's music overall (althought I like Solar's single - but in general it's just not my style). But I have myself admitted before that they are amongst the strongest vocalists - if not the best - amongst girl groups.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

So now you are a dancing or voice coach now? I know you are arrogant and believe you can do anything (even filing in as the executive chef at Panache / Chez Muffet) but this takes the cake

It doesn't take a vocal or a dancing coach to make the observations I've made. If I were one, I would have gone into much more details.

Also, since you value TheBiasList's guy's opinion so much, Dreamcatcher has an average of 8.4 and Twice has an average of 8.0. Just thought I'd let you know.

 

[John Price]

I'm no fan of Mamamoo's music overall (althought I like Solar's single - but in general it's just not my style). But I have myself admitted before that they are amongst the strongest vocalists - if not the best - amongst girl groups.

MAMAMOO has strong vocals and music theory and integration of music styles but no one would even think of putting them above TWICE unless they were a diehard biased stan. The comments you made about Dreamcatcher being better than a worldwide phenomenom in TWICE are just complete shill / fangirl statements

 

[John Price]

It doesn't take a vocal or a dancing coach to make the observations I've made. If I were one, I would have gone into much more details.

Also, since you value TheBiasList's guy's opinion so much, Dreamcatcher has an average of 8.4 and Twice has an average of 8.0. Just thought I'd let you know.

Twice put out some pretty mediocre albums before EOW

I don't think you understand how good EOW is. Give it a second listen.

 

[John Price]

To be fair you did say M&M was mediocre and I disagreed violently over that and it turns out M&M was mediocre indeed.

Same isn't said here though. ICSM is an immediate SOTY contender and EWO is a serious AOTY contender. And it's not because of MAMA.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

MAMAMOO has strong vocals and music theory and integration of music styles but no one would even think of putting them above TWICE unless they were a diehard biased stan. The comments you made about Dreamcatcher being better than a worldwide phenomenom in TWICE are just complete shill / fangirl statements

Well, that settles it. Selena Gomez is one of the most talented singer in the world.

 

[John Price]

Well, that settles it. Selena Gomez is one of the most talented singer in the world.

whataboutism

 

[John Price]

Have to put on a disposable mask and run errands this afternoon

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Twice put out some pretty mediocre albums before EOW

I don't think you understand how good EOW is. Give it a second listen.

I've probably listened to EOW more than you have, and you've seen my ratings.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

whataboutism

You simply don't understand the difference between "talent" and "popularity".

 

[John Price]

I've probably listened to EOW more than you have, and you've seen my ratings.

Alright.

Then your opinion is flat out wrong then. EWO is AOTY material.

 

[Bones Malone]

I've probably listened to EOW more than you have, and you've seen my ratings.

Alright.

Then your opinion is flat out wrong then. EWO is AOTY material.

One of you can't even get the damn acronym straight and therefore shouldn't even be in the discussion

 

[Aladyyn]

The whole purpose of Twice is for horny boys to beat their meat to the girls. Comparing them to Dreamcatcher in terms of talent is honestly insulting.

 

[Hammettf2b]

you getting the PS5 @John Price ?

 

[Kairi Zaide]

The whole purpose of Twice is for horny boys to beat their meat to the girls. Comparing them to Dreamcatcher in terms of talent is honestly insulting.

I keep seeing comments about how SuA turns heterosexual women gay