USA Goaltending...

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Rover said:
Grahame has played better lately and I personally think esche is the one that doesn't belong and miller should take his spot. However, grahame hasn't been consistent this year, which is why you always hear rumours about tampa looking for a goalie. Even the tb coach a few weeks ago said his goaltending was not where he wanted it to be. Until his 5th shutout his save % was under .900 and now it is barely above at .902. To have 5 shutouts are barely be above .900 tells you something about a goalie's consistency. Checking out his gamelog, it seems he goes in streaks of good and bad games.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1725/gamelog;_ylt=AuZHUSGfJDjYn8bRpw7ACCxivLYF

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Miller 18-7-0 2.18 .925 0SO Miller has allowed more than 3 goals in a game only 3 times this season. Miller has allowed 1 goal or less 10 times this season.
Grahame 20-15-1 2.60 .902 5SO Grahame has allowed more than 3 goals in a game 12 times this season. Grahame has allowed 1 goal or less 10 times this season.

Thats all well and good, but this is a goalie that appears to have found his game. Four shutouts in the past seven games is impressive, no matter who you are. I would hate to see these boards if it were Miller who had 4 shutouts in his last seven.

The bottem line is that Grahame has gotten zero respect for team USA except for the 3-4 of us who have said anything, and it is not right. He has earned the right to represent his country, and IMO, has earned the right to start over the other two goalies on the team. :eek:
 
this might be controversial, but if Miller finds a spot on USA's team I'd say they have better goaltending than Canada.
 
Miller is on the US taxi squad, and reports are that he'll stay home in Lansing Mich, and only go over if called by the Team
 
Jimmi Jenkins said:
Miller is on the US taxi squad, and reports are that he'll stay home in Lansing Mich, and only go over if called by the Team

rumors say that Echse is going to pull out in favor of Miller.
 
Esche should pull out cause he sucks and is too arrogant for someone who isn't that great.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/25/Lightning/US_goalies_have_their.shtml

Wonder if Lightning goaltender John Grahame and Flyers goalie Robert Esche will be roommates while playing for the United States Olympic team? A month ago, Esche was asked which goalies might be named and was specifically asked about Grahame and Buffalo's Ryan Miller. Esche told Philadelphia reporters, "Definitely not both of them. I'm not going to get into it, but one of those guys doesn't belong in the NHL."

Although Esche said nothing else, it was assumed he was talking about Grahame.

"Yeah, I heard something about that," Grahame said. "What did he say exactly?"

When told, Grahame shrugged and said, "There's nothing between us. I don't even know him. I don't know why he would say that. I have no idea, but I guess I'm going to have to have a chat with him when we get over (to Italy)."
 
Even before January Grahame was playing well. This whole season he's out played Rick DiPietro. Ryan Miller was left off the team, whatever the reason was it doesnt really matter. Esche, Grahame, and DiPietro were named to the team.

Grahame broke a francise record before this year. He broke two this season.

Thats pretty impressive even if he wasnt on any of these olympic rosters.

Johnny Grahame should get the start. Esche should be the backup, and DiPietro should enjoy his sight-seeing.
 
boltsgirl41922 said:
Even before January Grahame was playing well. This whole season he's out played Rick DiPietro. Ryan Miller was left off the team, whatever the reason was it doesnt really matter. Esche, Grahame, and DiPietro were named to the team.

Grahame broke a francise record before this year. He broke two this season.

Thats pretty impressive even if he wasnt on any of these olympic rosters.

Johnny Grahame should get the start. Esche should be the backup, and DiPietro should enjoy his sight-seeing.

I agree of the three going he is playing the best and should get the start. But using franchise records for a franchise that isn't even out of diapers as a reason he should start is silly.
 
boltsgirl41922 said:
Even before January Grahame was playing well. This whole season he's out played Rick DiPietro. Ryan Miller was left off the team, whatever the reason was it doesnt really matter. Esche, Grahame, and DiPietro were named to the team.

Grahame broke a francise record before this year. He broke two this season.

Thats pretty impressive even if he wasnt on any of these olympic rosters.

Johnny Grahame should get the start. Esche should be the backup, and DiPietro should enjoy his sight-seeing.

Considering hes on a Stanley Cup winner

i wouldnt agree

Miller as much as i hate saying it has a stronger argument on that team than Esche [who i believe is way overrated]

then again we have "fans" on this thread saying theyd rather see the US lose

because of who might be starting ...........which is pathetic
 
DaMick said:


then again we have "fans" on this thread saying theyd rather see the US lose


because of who might be starting ...........which is pathetic


it's f***ing pathetic..my team's player isn't playing, so I hope my country loses :cry:

unfriggin believable attitude:shakehead
 
CREW99AW said:
it's f***ing pathetic..my team's player isn't playing, so I hope my country loses :cry:

unfriggin believable attitude:shakehead

First of all, it's just one guy who said that.

Second, most of us Miller supporters are going to cheer for Team USA regardless, once the Games get underway. I know I am.

But until the Games start, we will lobby for Miller to somehow get put on the team,both because he's earned a spot, and because he gives Team USA the best chance of winning (which is what we all want in the end, right?). In a short tourney, a hot goaltender is everything, and Miller's been the hottest American goalie all season long.
 
MayDay said:
First of all, it's just one guy who said that.

Second, most of us Miller supporters are going to cheer for Team USA regardless, once the Games get underway. I know I am.

But until the Games start, we will lobby for Miller to somehow get put on the team,both because he's earned a spot, and because he gives Team USA the best chance of winning (which is what we all want in the end, right?). In a short tourney, a hot goaltender is everything, and Miller's been the hottest American goalie all season long.

Lets Hope so...not cheering for your country regardless of who starts is Pathetic

i dont give a **** if Miller , Esche,Grahame starts over DiPietro


ill support whomever wears a USA jersey in goal

Being a team fanboy over your country ...is something quite deplorable
 
DaMick said:
Lets Hope so...not cheering for your country regardless of who starts is Pathetic

i dont give a **** if Miller , Esche,Grahame starts over DiPietro


ill support whomever wears a USA jersey in goal

Being a team fanboy over your country ...is something quite deplorable

Yes,because cheering for your team in a tournament that really means nothing is so unpatriotic :rolleyes:

I'm sorry,but I don't blindly follow a team if I don't agree with their decisions/they have no chance of competing.

This isn't 1980,if the USA won the gold medal people would care for about a week.Even in 2002,people stopped caring after the gold medal game rather quickly. :dunno:
 
it seems quite simple to me

if the roster stays as it is right now, usa should just play the hot hand

and that is without question john grahame

John Grahame is the best shot this team has.

And if the name Ryan Miller comes up, i might scream. he wouldnt give this team a chance.

this needs explaining

if grahame gives usa a shot, so does miller

this comment is baffling
 
DanielBriere48 said:
Yes,because cheering for your team in a tournament that really means nothing is so unpatriotic :rolleyes:
I'm sorry,but I don't blindly follow a team if I don't agree with their decisions/they have no chance of competing.

Good to see that being a FanBoy overides cheering for your country :shakehead
 
DaMick said:
Good to see that being a FanBoy overides cheering for your country :shakehead

Get off your pedestal. Telling someone that their choice of who to root for in a hockey tournament is “pathetic†or "deplorable†is asinine. I don’t root for USA basketball. Anyone can cheer for whomever they want, saying otherwise is a joke.

It’s a hockey tournament. Stop making it more than it is.
 
Well I'm a Miller fan, but am not american, so I have no problems cheering against them. :D
 
MLH said:
It’s a hockey tournament. Stop making it more than it is.
im tired of debating why they should let the goalies battle it out

read my past posts


Now If you dont like the USA team selected



Then Dont watch the tourney



Thats all i gotta say





 
DaMick said:

Now If you dont like the USA team selected

Then Dont watch the tourney

Thats all i gotta say


So if he doesn't like team USA he should just not watch the tournament?

You're deciding for him that he can't root for any other team?

I don't like USA basketball and I root for other teams in the Olympics. I don't like Bode Miller (I actually do, but there are some people that probably feel this way) so I'm going to root for someone else.

You preaching to other people about who the allign with for a hockey tourney is crazy. There are deploarble things in this world, a rooting interest in a sporting event isn't one of them.

Stop telling people how to think. Enjoy watching Rick get lit up during the Olympics and the rest of the regular season.
 
MLH said:
Get off your pedestal. Telling someone that their choice of who to root for in a hockey tournament is “pathetic†or "deplorable†is asinine. I don’t root for USA basketball. Anyone can cheer for whomever they want, saying otherwise is a joke.

It’s a hockey tournament. Stop making it more than it is.

Olympians represent their country. Any person who does not root for their country during the Olympics is pathetic! I think most people would consider your opinion asinine.
 
dok101 said:
Olympians represent their country.

Olympians used to represent their country. When they were amateurs playing for nothing but pride.

Today's rosters stuffed with millionaire professionals don't represent anything but themselves.

What about when Team USA threw a temper-tantrum and trashed their hotel? Did that represent you as an American?

Like I said, I'm going to root for Team USA, and I'd like to see them medal. But I'm not going to say anything asinine, like claiming they somehow "represent" me or any other American.
 
DanielBriere48 said:
Yes,because cheering for your team in a tournament that really means nothing is so unpatriotic :rolleyes:

I'm sorry,but I don't blindly follow a team if I don't agree with their decisions/they have no chance of competing.

This isn't 1980,if the USA won the gold medal people would care for about a week.Even in 2002,people stopped caring after the gold medal game rather quickly. :dunno:


at the 2004 World Cup and the 2005 World Hockey tournament,I rooted for Esche and Conklin when they got playing time over DiPietro.

It's surprising Miller isn't on the US Olympic roster.Since he isn't,I'll cheer on the players who are.If you can't get behind your countries players,that's your problem,your complaint.
 
Thomas and Miller should be on the team.
Thomas has international experience racking up 15 shutouts in the Finnish league last season and has been lights out this year in the NHL.

I dont see USA going anywhere in this with the 3 goalies they have right now.
 
Nice to see Miller named to the taxi squad, as I am writing this email DP let in a goal with 1:12 remaining . DP did not see it and did not move., The guy is overated and hope to see anyone else start over him for USA, by the way I am a huge isles fan but not DP fan.

I saw this in Newsday and had to share:
Daily rant

"With Ricky 'Red Light' DiPietro in goal for Team USA, we won't even be able to beat the Jamaican ice hockey team."

Michael DiGirolamo

Holbrook
http://www.newsday.com/sports/print...429feb04,0,6735394.story?coll=ny-sports-print
 
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