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I really, really hope the future of USA hockey doesnt look like the future of the NY Islanders.

I say go with the most talented guy, even if he is the youngest. The Soviets took such a gamble despite many safe and solid goalies in their system and won gold in 72 with a 20 year old Tretiak. Miller might not be Tretiak, but he is the best chance we have at stealing some games.
 
Miller should no doubt be in the mix, if it not were for the injury he would be there and prolly have the starting job.

Also for the sake of arguing , the reason why Buffalo is 4th in the East is largely due to the great goaltending we've gotten from both of our Goalies....The reason why the Islanders are so low in the standings is because they have not.

I hope Rick gets his act together at least for the Oylimpics , he no doubt has the potential to be great but he has been awful....the games hes played against us hes let the cheapest softest goals, it was pathetic.Esp the 2nd game.....

The Miller hate earlier in this thread???? Why?? Have you watched this kid play??
 
MojoJojo said:
I really, really hope the future of USA hockey doesnt look like the future of the NY Islanders.

I say go with the most talented guy, even if he is the youngest. The Soviets took such a gamble despite many safe and solid goalies in their system and won gold in 72 with a 20 year old Tretiak. Miller might not be Tretiak, but he is the best chance we have at stealing some games.

Don't make me laugh. You know that Miller is a year older than Rick DiPietro right?

czarin said:
Also for the sake of arguing , the reason why Buffalo is 4th in the East is largely due to the great goaltending we've gotten from both of our Goalies....The reason why the Islanders are so low in the standings is because they have not.

The reason that the Isles are so low in the standings is because they have the worst defense in the NHL (except for maybe the Pittsburgh Penguins) and have forwards who utterly refuse to backcheck and help the goalie. What's twisted about the Isles is that goaltending has been one of their best attributes this season and they're still in the playoff hunt :help:
 
The games ive seen Rick play, hes been awful.Yes thats defense, but our defense isnt exactly amazing.Miller makes 4 or 5 big saves a game.Should have seen im in Atlanta tonight. He made a mockery of Atl dynamic PP :p:
 
Since its inevitable to see him play. lets see how he plays with a pretty good Defense for team USA :help:
 
I don't think the problem is as much "Miller is better than DiPietro", it's more about "Miller should be on the team to begin with".
 
eSabre said:
I don't think the problem is as much "Miller is better than DiPietro", it's more about "Miller should be on the team to begin with".
I agree, Miller should be ahead of Esche and Grahame. What makes me mad is that we've got these ridiculous Sabres fanboys posting "DiPietro sucks" 10 times a day and not listening to any arguements from the other side.
 
King Henry I said:
I agree, Miller should be ahead of Esche and Grahame. What makes me mad is that we've got these ridiculous Sabres fanboys posting "DiPietro sucks" 10 times a day and not listening to any arguements from the other side.

At the same time you Islander fanboys refuse to fault DiPietro at all. He's having a terrible year, I don't care how bad his defense is. He got chased against Buffalo after a bad angle 50 foot slap shot by Jochen Hecht beat him. Miller's been incredible, consistently making saves on breakaways, odd man breaks, and after defensive lapses. Had he not saved his teammates time after time or had DiPietro played as well as Miller, perhaps we're viewing the teams respective defenses in a different light.

Your defense has been playing poorly, we get it. Bottom line is Miller is 4th in the NHL in SP% while DiPietro is 3rd on the Islanders.

The rest of the world is going to love seeing DiPietro in net.
 
MLH said:
At the same time you Islander fanboys refuse to fault DiPietro at all. He's having a terrible year, I don't care how bad his defense is. He got chased against Buffalo after a bad angle 50 foot slap shot by Jochen Hecht beat him. Miller's been incredible, consistently making saves on breakaways, odd man breaks, and after defensive lapses. Had he not saved his teammates time after time or had DiPietro played as well as Miller, perhaps we're viewing the teams respective defenses in a different light.

Your defense has been playing poorly, we get it. Bottom line is Miller is 4th in the NHL in SP% while DiPietro is 3rd on the Islanders.

The rest of the world is going to love seeing DiPietro in net.
I readily admit that DiPietro is having an up and down season. He was sensational for the first month, alright for the next and it's been a crapshoot since then. The fact of the matter is that DiPietro has played well for the US before and there's no reason to believe that he won't do it again this season.

As far as I'm concerned if you switch Miller and DiPietro's teams their numbers would almost completely reverse.
 
MLH said:
At the same time you Islander fanboys refuse to fault DiPietro at all. He's having a terrible year, I don't care how bad his defense is. He got chased against Buffalo after a bad angle 50 foot slap shot by Jochen Hecht beat him. Miller's been incredible, consistently making saves on breakaways, odd man breaks, and after defensive lapses. Had he not saved his teammates time after time or had DiPietro played as well as Miller, perhaps we're viewing the teams respective defenses in a different light.

Your defense has been playing poorly, we get it. Bottom line is Miller is 4th in the NHL in SP% while DiPietro is 3rd on the Islanders.

The rest of the world is going to love seeing DiPietro in net.


yeah very true...but look at our top 4 D

then try saying that Miller would do that well in front of them
 
eSabre said:
I don't think the problem is as much "Miller is better than DiPietro", it's more about "Miller should be on the team to begin with".

I agree with you wholeheartingly

Miller should be on the team
 
The thing is, the Olympics is a tournament that only lasts 7 games long. You don't need the best goalie in the world but simply the a red hot goalie who can play a stretch of 7 dominant games. Even a guy like Mike Richter wasn't a superb NHL goalie and DiPietro will probably have a better overall career. And like Richter, DiPietro doesn't need to be a superstar goalie in the mold of Roy or Hasek. He only has to play 7 solid hockey games and inspire enough confidence so the rest of the team can do their part. Anything can happen in 7 games and DiPietro has it in him to pull a Richter-esque (and perhaps even better) performance.
 
A column in the new SI just said Tim Thomas should be the starter. He's got a lot of international experience and he's playing crazy good.
 
Ruzicka38 said:
A column in the new SI just said Tim Thomas should be the starter. He's got a lot of international experience and he's playing crazy good.

That was an interesting article, the writer noted how poorly DiPietro and the other goaltenders have played all season and discussed how Thomas played outstanding in defeat to the Isles Saturday but forgot to acknowlege DiPietro's forty saves and that he outplayed Thomas.

Stan Fischler last night claimed the goaltender depth chart for team USA will be Esche, Grahame and DiPietro.
 
NYIsles1 said:
Stan Fischler last night claimed the goaltender depth chart for team USA will be Esche, Grahame and DiPietro.
Interesting. A lot of stuff I've read made me think they want DiPietro to get the majority of starts. Who knows, guess they'll sort it out when they get there.
 
That article was a joke. Not because Tim Thomas isn't capable, but because Ryan Miller has actually been the best U.S. goaltender this year. As for the other three, they've all had their moments this year of playing great and all have that potential in the games. We'll see how it plays out.
 
Ryan Miller put on another clinic tonight, yet again outplaying a Team USA goalie, as the Sabres beat Esche and the Flyers tonight.

For those keeping count, the Sabres are now 11-0 against those that screwed Miller out of his rightful roster spot.

4-0 against DiPietro's Isles
3-0 against Grahame's Lightning
2-0 against Esche's Flyers
2-0 against Waddell's Thrashers
 
MayDay said:
Ryan Miller put on another clinic tonight, yet again outplaying a Team USA goalie, as the Sabres beat Esche and the Flyers tonight.

For those keeping count, the Sabres are now 11-0 against those that screwed Miller out of his rightful roster spot.

4-0 against DiPietro's Isles
3-0 against Grahame's Lightning
2-0 against Esche's Flyers
2-0 against Waddell's Thrashers

Yeah, like it was the fault of those selected that Miller didn't get a spot. Please direct your anger at the USA Hockey braintrust and not the players themselves.
 
Sotnos said:
Interesting. A lot of stuff I've read made me think they want DiPietro to get the majority of starts. Who knows, guess they'll sort it out when they get there.

All three of them suck.

We really have no chance this year.

At all.
 
DaMick said:
Learn to support whomever wears our country's colors :shakehead

Amen! I have debated ad nauseum that I think Miller should be the goalie. But once the olympics start I'll be cheering for the USA no matter who is in net.
By the way, I was at the Sabres/Flyers tonight and the fans(myself included) chanted USA, USA after some of Miller's big saves. :clap: It was awesome.
ps.esche was bombarded (37 shots and 2 posts) and didn't look too bad. ;)
 
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