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[JesusNPucks]

Alex Edler for Nichuskin and Oleksiak

Fellows Dallas fans, has the "ship sailed" on any possibility of Edler, with the addition of Hamhuis and with Oduya?

 

[Dr Pepper]

I don't think Vancouver wants anything to do with Nichushkin, since he's still refusing to sign a contract and also the fact the Canucks picked Horvat while Nuke was still on the board.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Wideman for Oduya

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Nichushkin
Honka

For

Pesce
Gauthier
Booth

 

[glovesave_35]

Nichushkin
Honka

For

Pesce
Gauthier
Booth

What team is this and who are these players?

 

[WhatWhat]

I don't think Vancouver wants anything to do with Nichushkin, since he's still refusing to sign a contract and also the fact the Canucks picked Horvat while Nuke was still on the board.

There is a difference between refusing to sign and waiting it out trying to get the best. Kinda like Trouba, Kucherov and other RFAs. They arent refusing to sign, they are simply using as much time to negotiate the best deal

 

[Vatican Roulette]

What team is this and who are these players?

Dallas and Carolina.

Look them up.

 

[LT]

Nichushkin
Honka

For

Pesce
Gauthier
Booth

Downgrade on both players to add Booth?

Nope.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Downgrade on both players to add Booth?

Nope.

Where's the down grade?

 

[NotYou]

Well this has gone as expected. Nice work everyone

 

[LT]

Where's the down grade?

I'd take Honka over Pesce and Nichushkin over Gauthier.

 

[skyo]

I don't think Vancouver wants anything to do with Nichushkin, since he's still refusing to sign a contract and also the fact the Canucks picked Horvat while Nuke was still on the board.

That was the former regime, Benning is cool with the Russians.

 

[TT1]

I'd take Honka over Pesce and Nichushkin over Gauthier.

Well i view it as Nichushkin >> Pesce (when comparing both NHL'ers, so it's not close.. i'd say Slavin is worth about the same as Nichushkin tho) and Honka > Gauthier + Booth (comparing prospects), nonetheless still an easy no for Dallas..

but yea i think a straight up swap of Nichushkin for Slavin is a pretty fair deal for both teams, Slavin played top 4 minutes last season and looked good.

 

[Woodtkachuk]

We will give you Kevin back + a third for nuke

 

[CREW99AW]

I don't think Vancouver wants anything to do with Nichushkin, since he's still refusing to sign a contract and also the fact the Canucks picked Horvat while Nuke was still on the board.

I have not read anything about his extension talks hitting a snag or turning ugly.
No reason to think he won't be signed.

 

[bernmeister]

Rangers are looking to move Staal because of his NMC. We expect him to rebound incl because part of the problem is how used by AV, and after last yr AV will be told to get a grip or get a seat.

he is 5.75 and we can afford to eat, but ya gotta make it worth our while if we eat multiyear $

Talent return otherwise is not as big a deal as moving the contract NMC, though we would like something for him.

I don't see matching parts for deal w/Dallas; not expecting Stars to offer small pick with conditional adds based on how good Staal is.

but my 2 cents here is just a rough sketch of a 3 way thought:

Hamilton to Stars

Staal to Flames

Dallas big something to Flames

Dallas moderate something to Rangers
Flames minimal something to Rangers

just a thought
obv would depend on filling in the blanks

 

[Mr Misty]

Rangers are looking to move Staal because of his NMC. We expect him to rebound incl because part of the problem is how used by AV, and after last yr AV will be told to get a grip or get a seat.

he is 5.75 and we can afford to eat, but ya gotta make it worth our while if we eat multiyear $

Talent return otherwise is not as big a deal as moving the contract NMC, though we would like something for him.

I don't see matching parts for deal w/Dallas; not expecting Stars to offer small pick with conditional adds based on how good Staal is.

but my 2 cents here is just a rough sketch of a 3 way thought:

Hamilton to Stars

Staal to Flames

Dallas big something to Flames

Dallas moderate something to Rangers
Flames minimal something to Rangers

just a thought
obv would depend on filling in the blanks

How many more Staal/Girardi threads is it going to take for you to get the point? Nobody wants these players. A trade would look like

Staal, multiple 1sts to Team X
Nothing to Rangers

Also, there's no point to the Rangers being party to your deal, you add nothing except complexity.

 

[Crocoduck]

How many more Staal/Girardi threads is it going to take for you to get the point? Nobody wants these players. A trade would look like

Staal, multiple 1sts to Team X
Nothing to Rangers

Also, there's no point to the Rangers being party to your deal, you add nothing except complexity.

That return is obviously exaggerated but Bernmeister needs to get it through his head that the Stars/fans want NOTHING to do with Staal. I don't know how many times he needs to be told that before he gives it up.

 

[anezthes]

Vatanen for Nichushkin + Eakin.

What the ****? No.

Despres for B. Ritchie of any interest?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Rangers are looking to move Staal because of his NMC. We expect him to rebound incl because part of the problem is how used by AV, and after last yr AV will be told to get a grip or get a seat.

he is 5.75 and we can afford to eat, but ya gotta make it worth our while if we eat multiyear $

Talent return otherwise is not as big a deal as moving the contract NMC, though we would like something for him.

I don't see matching parts for deal w/Dallas; not expecting Stars to offer small pick with conditional adds based on how good Staal is.

but my 2 cents here is just a rough sketch of a 3 way thought:

Hamilton to Stars

Staal to Flames

Dallas big something to Flames

Dallas moderate something to Rangers
Flames minimal something to Rangers

just a thought
obv would depend on filling in the blanks

Lmao these just keep getting more whacky

 

[bernmeister]

That return is obviously exaggerated but Bernmeister needs to get it through his head that the Stars/fans want NOTHING to do with Staal. I don't know how many times he needs to be told that before he gives it up.

you may extend your apology any time now for completely ignoring the fact that I sent Staal to Flames, and LD Hamilton to Stars in my prop.

 

[Mr Misty]

you may extend your apology any time now for completely ignoring the fact that I sent Staal to Flames, and LD Hamilton to Stars in my prop.

It says here you also expect something for Staal from both the Stars and the Flames. Unless you are sending multiple 1sts away and forgot to post that, you have lost touch with reality.

 

[oconnor9sean]

I don't think Vancouver wants anything to do with Nichushkin, since he's still refusing to sign a contract and also the fact the Canucks picked Horvat while Nuke was still on the board.

Would Edmonton want nothing to do with Jack Eichel since they picked McDavid over him? I get that it isn't the most accurate of comparisons, but just because someone doesnt draft someone does not mean that they would never want him.

That being said, the Russian factor is a player too, but I've never liked the "draft-order" argument.

We will give you Kevin back + a third for nuke

He was a spare part when we traded him at the deadline, and he still is. No thanks.

 

[GuerinUp]

Brodin for overpayment.

 

[57special]

Hard pressed to think of what the Stars would or could realistically offer for Brodin. Their best prospects are Dmen...don't need them, and I would guess that Dallas wants to hold onto Dmen at any rate. Don't want the mess that is Nichushkin. Gurayanov? Tufte? Sorry, but those guys are anything but sure things. Not trading Brodin for guys who are " maybes" in 2019-20.

Add in that we would be making a division rival stronger in the one area( goaltending aside) where they desperately need it, and I don't see a fit.