Value of: Upgrade for Montreal: 2C/2LW/Top 4 PMD

[KingCanadain1976]

Thing is Plekanec would be a perfect #3C for this playoff run, even if we did need to deal him after the playoffs. Keeping DD, he's horrible for that.

See i understand why u want dd to go then plekanec However to the kings it doesn't make sense even for the rest of the year. Plekanec is strong defensively and plays king hockey Sutter wants big players not anyone under 6 foot He won't play them linden vey is the latest example We need a stop gap center till hopefully Amadio works his way into the lineup dd doesnt play a strong enough physical game.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Thing is Plekanec would be a perfect #3C for this playoff run, even if we did need to deal him after the playoffs. Keeping DD, he's horrible for that.

Make a deal for Handzus i think he would be a cheap perfect pickup for u

 

[Mr Plow]

What would Edler be worth in 2017/2018 draft picks? Salary retention also negotiable.

 

[Nuckles]

What would Edler be worth in 2017/2018 draft picks? Salary retention also negotiable.

I wouldn't trade Edler for only picks, especially late picks (late 1st/late 2nd).

At this point in the season I'd want Sergachev+, because what other teams are going to move a top pairing d-man for futures?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I wouldn't trade Edler for only picks, especially late picks (late 1st/late 2nd).

At this point in the season I'd want Sergachev+, because what other teams are going to move a top pairing d-man for futures?

Would you trade Juolevi for Petry?

Elder does not get you Serg let alone a plus

 

[MNRube]

Scandella for Juulsen, +

 

[angry pirate]

I don't really get how Carter's value has increased from when he was 27 and at the start of his prime. He's 31 now and these offers are the richest yet.. Sergachev, late first, and Hudon or Andrighetto is a fair offer should LA be willing to move him. These offers of 3 and 4 first round picks are crazy.

 

[webersshot]

even if their record got so bad that they decided to clean out a bit of junk, jeff carter is not in the conversation...he's 31, with size, leads the team in points, can play all positions, is pretty good on the draws, makes only 5.2 per year....why would LA part with that?

 

[angry pirate]

Scandella for Juulsen, +

Depending on the +, from the Habs side I would be all over that. Juulsen's road to the NHL will be a long one through Weber and Petry. Moving him now for a LD with term is a good move. Sergachev prefers the right side but is a lefty. That versatility can make Juulsen expendable if the right deal came along.

 

[angry pirate]

Martin Hanzal seems to be the obvious #1 deadline choice for Montreal. Big. Can play 2 or 3C. Can play LW if we so choose.

Looking deeper, I would be calling about Scott Hartnell to see if he'd waive. I doubt he does, as I don't think he wants his NMC cancelled and end up in Vegas. But he's an intriguing option out there as long as he could be had at a rental price.

On D it's tougher... I don't want to lose Beaulieu for nothing, so we are probably looking for a pure rental although as mentioned above I do like Scandella. As long as we understand that the cost of Scandella probably includes future Beaulieu unless MB can swing a deal with Vegas. Those extra seconds could come in handy there.

 

[Nuckles]

Would you trade Juolevi for Petry?

Elder does not get you Serg let alone a plus

Who is Elder?

And my mistake, I forgot that all prospects are guaranteed to reach their potential.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

Who is Elder?

And my mistake, I forgot that all prospects are guaranteed to reach their potential.

Sergachev just turned 18 a couple of months ago. There's a reason why everyone adds him to trade discussions involving Montreal.

He's Markov's replacement.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Granlund+Scandella/Brodin?

I know Montreal prob wants size but Granlund gives a lot of scoring depth thatd help a lot. Just depends what MIN would want.

Who is Elder?

And my mistake, I forgot that all prospects are guaranteed to reach their potential.

Would you trade Juolevi for Petry? you kinda just side stepped that question, maybe because Serg for Edler is bad for MTL.

 

[57special]

Scandella for Juulsen, +

Say what? That + better be a first, and even then, it will probably be a really late first in a less than exciting draft. MTL with Scandella on their back line will be much improved.

Juulsen would be yet another young Dman going to a team that is awash in them. Brodin, Dumba, Reilly, Olofsson, Folin, then prospects like Belpedio and Bouramman. It's not like Spurgeon is an old man either at 26.

I'm all for trading a Dman for help, but it's got to be for forward help. MTL simply doesn't have them to give.

 

[PTH]

Montreal isn't going to give whats is worth 3 1st round pick for Carter.

Yup... the age difference is huge, with Carter being at the end of his prime, we shouldn't be trading multiple kids/picks for him.... the guy drafted with that 1st round pick could easily find himself playing with Carter's kids (if he had them young, as hockey players are wont to do).

That being said, and more to the point, even if the Habs are looking for the here and now there are going to be better deals than this on the table, if only for rentals.

 

[Nuckles]

Would you trade Juolevi for Petry? you kinda just side stepped that question, maybe because Serg for Edler is bad for MTL.

Why would a bottom feeder needing a very long rebuild trade one of their top prospects for someone who will be in their mid-late 30's when they're good again? The Canucks also don't need any more defensive d-men.

But if Vancouver was a contender and needed a d-man like him, then yes, I'd strongly consider it. Proven top 4 d-men that aren't upcoming UFAs are hard to come by and cost a pretty penny to acquire.

 

[PTH]

Why would a bottom feeder needing a very long rebuild trade one of their top prospects for someone who will be in their mid-late 30's when they're good again? The Canucks also don't need any more defensive d-men.

But if Vancouver was a contender and needed a d-man like him, then yes, I'd strongly consider it. Proven top 4 d-men that aren't upcoming UFAs are hard to come by and cost a pretty penny to acquire.

I agree it's not a good proposal, but Petry isn't a defensive defenseman.

 

[Mr Plow]

I wouldn't trade Edler for only picks, especially late picks (late 1st/late 2nd).

At this point in the season I'd want Sergachev+, because what other teams are going to move a top pairing d-man for futures?

Why not? For a rebuilding team we actually have a very shallow prospect pool. Edler will be on the way out before we're ready to compete again. If we could get 3 picks in the top 60 for him that would do wonders for our prospect pool. I guess at this point my biggest question would be, what's the point in keeping him?

 

[Jozay]

JVR, we retain 50% too (gives him a cap hit of just over 2 mill).

Whats your best offer?

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

The time for Montreal to contend is now.

Who fits this description and is also available/will become available?

What would they cost assuming Montreal's roster is generally off-limits save for salary dump DD?

Assume all draft picks and prospects (save for Sergachev, unless it's a huge upgrade or for 2 in the same deal) are available.

So. You want to significantly upgrade your team ... while not giving away anything of value.

Sounds legit.

 

[sansabri]

JVR, we retain 50% too (gives him a cap hit of just over 2 mill).

Whats your best offer?

We need a top 6 C more than a top 6 LW. That boat has sailed.

 

[De Montreal]

We need a top 6 C more than a top 6 LW. That boat has sailed.

Exactly. This summer Habs fans asked for JVR and Leafs fans told he wasnt going anywhere unless there was an overpayment, that he was needed for a playoff push.

Now we know Lehkonen / Carr are capable NHLers, there is no need for another winger.

 

[HuGo Sham]

JVR, we retain 50% too (gives him a cap hit of just over 2 mill).

Whats your best offer?

it won't be sergachev or Mccaron thats for sure

 

[HuGo Sham]

We need a top 6 C more than a top 6 LW. That boat has sailed.

yup we need a C, not wingers..interested in Kadri but not for players like sergachev, juulsen or McCarron so no deal i guess

 

[PTH]

JVR, we retain 50% too (gives him a cap hit of just over 2 mill).

Whats your best offer?

As others have said, the Habs have less need for wingers at this point.

I'd make you an offer of a 1st and a 2nd, though you could take Lehkonen instead of a first, or Carr instead of the second.

I'm pretty sure Toronto could find a better deal elsewhere, but it would make no sense for the Habs to give up tradeable assets for a position of lesser need, moreso since I don't think JVR fits into the mold we're going for (speedy, gritty, 2-way players).