Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations

[Puikiou]

Never want to see Forsberg in a Sens jersey ever again. Nor Hamonic on the top pair ever again.

What in the actual f*** is Staios doing? There's being patient, then there's whatever this is. Stützle basically plays alone on the 1st line every night, our franchise defenseman is saddled with an ECHLer, our backup can't stop a snowball, our whole defensive core (minus the ECHLer) is allergic to shooting the puck, etc. and the GM just sits there and watches the team bleed points.

Gosh, for all of his flaws, I miss Bryan Murray. You just know he would be moving heaven and earth to do something and would NEVER stand for the past miserable 8 years.

 

[Melgene Eunyk]

Never want to see Forsberg in a Sens jersey ever again. Nor Hamonic on the top pair ever again.

What in the actual f*** is Staios doing? There's being patient, then there's whatever this is. Stützle basically plays alone on the 1st line every night, our franchise defenseman is saddled with an ECHLer, our backup can't stop a snowball, our whole defensive core (minus the ECHLer) is allergic to shooting the puck, etc. and the GM just sits there and watches the team bleed points.

Gosh, for all of his flaws, I miss Bryan Murray. You just know he would be moving heaven and earth to do something and would NEVER stand for the last miserable 8 years.

My thoughts exactly. It's pissing me the f*** off

 

[Puikiou]

My thoughts exactly. It's pissing me the f*** off

Staios got us a legit #1 goalie, a solid RD/partner for Chabot and a guy on a league minimum contract with 13 goals this summer.

Expecting him to fix every problem on this team overnight is a huge stretch. Team had/has too many holes, at least he’s making progress.

Over the past month alone, Tomasino and Fabbro were available for a combined 4th round pick in 2027.

Tomasino has 4 points in 5 games for Pittsburgh and Fabbro has 6 points in 12 games, with a +13 rating while looking like a legit stud top 4 RhD.

What's the f***** excuse? Why the hell does loyalty to awful players like Hamonic, Cousins/Amadio and Forsberg take precedence over improving the team in the eyes of the GM?

 

[PlayOn]

Never want to see Forsberg in a Sens jersey ever again. Nor Hamonic on the top pair ever again.

What in the actual f*** is Staios doing? There's being patient, then there's whatever this is. Stützle basically plays alone on the 1st line every night, our franchise defenseman is saddled with an ECHLer, our backup can't stop a snowball, our whole defensive core (minus the ECHLer) is allergic to shooting the puck, etc. and the GM just sits there and watches the team bleed points.

Gosh, for all of his flaws, I miss Bryan Murray. You just know he would be moving heaven and earth to do something and would NEVER stand for the past miserable 8 years.

Staios got us a legit #1 goalie, a solid RD/partner for Chabot and a guy on a league minimum contract with 13 goals this summer.

Expecting him to fix every problem on this team overnight is a huge stretch. Team had/has too many holes, at least he’s making progress.

 

[Xspyrit]

Over the past month alone, Tomasino and Fabbro were available for a combined 4th round pick in 2027.

Tomasino has 4 points in 5 games for Pittsburgh and Fabbro has 6 points in 12 games, with a +13 rating while looking like a legit stud top 4 RhD.

What's the f***** excuse? Why the hell does loyalty to awful players like Hamonic, Cousins/Amadio and Forsberg take precedence over improving the team in the eyes of the GM?

We're still going through the last GM mistakes. And Staios made his own mistakes

We don't have any cap space and we're stuck with Amadio, Hamonic, Perron and Forsberg contracts (although not blaming him personally)

At least Ullmark, Jensen and Gaudette are moves that are/will be working. We were a bit unlucky with Perron's situation

Zub and Pinto situations are not ideal too but the best 6-7 guys of this team were never surrounded correctly

Fixed it for you

lol n'importe quoi

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Staios' patience reminds me of this commercial

 

[ottawagm]

Wish he had more urgency. We haven't changed a thing all year.

 

[ottawagm]

Over the past month alone, Tomasino and Fabbro were available for a combined 4th round pick in 2027.

Tomasino has 4 points in 5 games for Pittsburgh and Fabbro has 6 points in 12 games, with a +13 rating while looking like a legit stud top 4 RhD.

What's the f***** excuse? Why the hell does loyalty to awful players like Hamonic, Cousins/Amadio and Forsberg take precedence over improving the team in the eyes of the GM?

Maybe it's time we actually hire a GM, instead of having the POHO with no experience doing it.

 

[Tuna99]

Staois should consider a full team and Sensarmy wedgie board seance where we once and for all try and rid this team of the demons that posses it. Maybe before a game instead of the anthem we have a Conjurer come and reverse the evil spell that plagues this team.

My pick would be Justin Trudeau ex wife

 

[mysens]

Staois should consider a full team and Sensarmy wedgie board seance where we once and for all try and rid this team of the demons that posses it. Maybe before a game instead of the anthem we have a Conjurer come and reverse the evil spell that plagues this team.

My pick would be Justin Trudeau ex wife

Are you nuts....she would take all the player's money like her Ex is doing to all Canadians.

 

[umma gumma]

The team won under Muckler, it fell apart under Murray. Drafting didn’t save z Murray, it was basically the only thing he did well, every other file was fail from coaching to roaster to attendance to fan engagement to the legacy after he left - and it got toxic very very quickly

During Muckler's time here he drafted 3 players that played more than 500 NHL games, and only one that played more than 700. Its no wonder we started to dwindle, the draft was this team's bloodline since we couldn't compete in free agency.

 

[Tuna99]

During Muckler's time here he drafted 3 players that played more than 500 NHL games, and only one that played more than 700. Its no wonder we started to dwindle, the draft was this team's bloodline since we couldn't compete in free agency.

Which isn’t so bad considering he was here for 4 seasons and was drafting late because of good teams.

Murray dismantled that team - Kelly, Vermette, Fisher, Heatley, Alfie, Mezaros, Spezza and finally Alfie.

anyways, I’ve been here since the civic center.

Muckler - best time in Sens history

Murray - not best time in a Sens history.

 

[umma gumma]

Delete

 

[umma gumma]

Which isn’t so bad considering he was here for 4 seasons and was drafting late because of good teams.

Murray dismantled that team - Kelly, Vermette, Fisher, Heatley, Alfie, Mezaros, Spezza and finally Alfie.

anyways, I’ve been here since the civic center.

Muckler - best time in Sens history

Murray - not best time in a Sens history.

The regime before Muckler managed to find Volchenkov and Havlat late in the 1st. They also managed to find some other gems after round one. In Murray's first two seasons in charge of the draft he drafted Karlsson, Zach Smith, Borocop, Hoffman, and Silfverberg.

Murray shipped all of those players you listed out because they needed to get paid and Melnyk wasn't going to dish out the cash. He wasn't going to pay for a good coach either. But you'll just ignore all of that (like, how the f*** can you pretend it didn't happen as a Sens fan??) because of your need to prop Muckler up and knock Murray down.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Should have bought out Forsberg in the offseason and spent the difference on a backup. He would have been a ~$900K cap hit for 2 years, with $1.85M available to allocate to a qualified backup. Could have gone dumpster diving and ended up with better results than a guy who has 3 of 11 starts with a sv% above .900.

 

[Tuna99]

The regime before Muckler managed to find Volchenkov and Havlat late in the 1st. They also managed to find some other gems after round one. In Murray's first two seasons in charge of the draft he drafted Karlsson, Zach Smith, Borocop, Hoffman, and Silfverberg.

Murray shipped all of those players you listed out because they needed to get paid and Melnyk wasn't going to dish out the cash. He wasn't going to pay for a good coach either. But you'll just ignore all of that (like, how the f*** can you pretend it didn't happen as a Sens fan??) because of your need to prop Muckler up and knock Murray down

It’s more setting the record straight because I think the media got these two legacies completely wrong, and it was intentional because the old boys media loved Murray and hated Muckler and they wrote the histories as much



I’m just here judging the real history minus all the excuses about Melnyck. Muckler also managed under Melncyk and did it way better then Murray, Murray defenders just always scream “Melnick was mean “ but both managers dealt with hi. And a reason I like Muckler more is abuse he told Melnyck can to go f*** himself

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

It’s more setting the record straight because I think the media got these two legacies completely wrong, and it was intentional because the old boys media loved Murray and hated Muckler and they wrote the histories as much



I’m just here judging the real history minus all the excuses about Melnyck. Muckler also managed under Melncyk and did it way better then Murray, Murray defenders just always scream “Melnick was mean “ but both managers dealt with hi. And a reason I like Muckler more is abuse he told Melnyck can to go f*** himself

Your version of the events anyways. Wouldn't call it setting the record straight.

 

[Tuna99]

Your version of the events anyways. Wouldn't call it setting the record straight.

Call it contested history then. But I was there in the stadium for both - absolutely no comparison as a fan.

Muckler was here for the best times, Murray was here for the rest

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Call it contested history then. But I was there in the stadium for both - absolutely no comparison as a fan.

Muckler was here for the best times, Murray was here for the rest

Contested is putting it lightly. I think you're out to lunch on this one.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Curious, how would yall rate Bryan Murray as a GM?

 

[PlayOn]

Curious, how would yall rate Bryan Murray as a GM?

7/10 probably.

He was great at hockey trades. Elliott for Anderson, Foligno for Methot and Rundblad for Turris were all amazing. We’re not competitive without those moves.

Drafted well. Karlsson, Stone, Zib, Pageau, Hoffman etc

Some good free agency signings like Gonchar and MacArthur.

Terrible coaching hires. (His biggest flaw imo)

Some mediocre trades like Heatley package or the one for Bobby Ryan, but nothing too terrible that I can recall.

Good at handling Melnyk and at least keeping the org looking respectable on the outside. Not sure anyone could’ve done better with him.

It was a mixed bag and I’d give him a lower score if we had decent ownership, but I am not sure he could’ve done much more given the circumstances.

 

[BigRig4]

Curious, how would yall rate Bryan Murray as a GM?

Made the playoffs like ~50% of his seasons as GM despite the fact he was only ever allowed to operate at like 75% of the cap ceiling. I’d say that’s pretty good considering the circumstances.

 

[TheNewEra]

Over the past month alone, Tomasino and Fabbro were available for a combined 4th round pick in 2027.

Tomasino has 4 points in 5 games for Pittsburgh and Fabbro has 6 points in 12 games, with a +13 rating while looking like a legit stud top 4 RhD.

What's the f***** excuse? Why the hell does loyalty to awful players like Hamonic, Cousins/Amadio and Forsberg take precedence over improving the team in the eyes of the GM?

the fabbro thing pisses me off the most, even if he didnt do as well here, there was a young RD available which is a position of need with no long term commitment, was practically a give me move that would cost us cap space only and I have no idea why we didnt toss nashville a 7th round pick to get him

 

[BigRig4]

the fabbro thing pisses me off the most, even if he didnt do as well here, there was a young RD available which is a position of need with no long term commitment, was practically a give me move that would cost us cap space only and I have no idea why we didnt toss nashville a 7th round pick to get him

We couldn’t fit him under the cap. With Perron out but not on LTIR we’re really tight against the cap. Maybe we could have worked out a trade where we sent some money back though, hard to say.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

7/10 probably.

He was great at hockey trades. Elliott for Anderson, Foligno for Methot and Rundblad for Turris were all amazing. We’re not competitive without those moves.

Drafted well. Karlsson, Stone, Zib, Pageau, Hoffman etc

Some good free agency signings like Gonchar and MacArthur.

Terrible coaching hires. (His biggest flaw imo)

Some mediocre trades like Heatley package or the one for Bobby Ryan, but nothing too terrible that I can recall.

Good at handling Melnyk and at least keeping the org looking respectable on the outside. Not sure anyone could’ve done better with him.

It was a mixed bag and I’d give him a lower score if we had decent ownership, but I am not sure he could’ve done much more given the circumstances.

This is pretty accurate imo. Not spectacular but probably made the best out of a team handicapped by its budget and the general issues with Melnyk. Holes in the lineup are gonna happen when you're not a cap spending team. Needed a top 6 forward and a top 4 d as he so often said, but have 5-8 mil unspent and can't compete with other teams as he was pretty open about too. Seems pretty straightforward to me why some of those teams weren't better. Coaching hires were mostly a disappointment as the biggest complaint. He negotiated better deals for both Spezza and Heatley, but with trade protection, they were able to squash it. I don't think waiting improves the situation. Things going south as hard as they did after he died sort of shows just how much he held it together imo. The franchise was a total disaster under Dorion and after Murray had fallen ill.