Confirmed with Link: Update: Lowry suspended 1 game for hit on Kaleta

[LadyJet26]

I agree Jet.

 

[KCjetsfan]

Don't agree with this whole notion of good on Lowry for getting retribution. Its ridiculous. Yeah Lowry sure got Kaleta. He won't do that again. Only he will do it again and again and again cause he knows bone heads like Lowry will take stupid penalties getting him back. Its aggrevates me to no end when a player runs the goalie or somethign and gets a penalty then a Jet comes in and roughs him up. So rather than a powerplay we get offsetting penalties. But hey we sent a message that we won't tolerate that!!! Only it still happens cause "sending a message" is utterly pointless and what the aggrevator wants you to do. How bout take the powerplay and score a goal. That will send a much better message.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

So we will be short Lowry Perrault and Enstrom and its thanksgiving today. hockey gods in fine form.

 

[irunthepeg]

I know it's the second option. I was a die hard Canucks fan in 2011. I hate the Bruins and they really do get away with a lot. And have you ever watched an Isles Pens game? Those are the exact reasons why I hate the Isles. And their classless fans booing when there's an injured player.

There isn't some conspiracy. I just wanted some debate.

Fair point about the games (I don't see many Isles games so I can't tell you) but every fanbase has it's idiots.

I thought it was a bad hit but I think Kaleta put himself in a stupid position and Jet makes a great point. Plus, it's Kaleta, so whatever. Love Lowry, he's gonna be one of those guys other teams hate and we love because of that grit.

 

[LadyJet26]

At least Lowry isn't Marchand and won't pretend he didn't do anything wrong

 

[Jimby]

Right on.

The NHL had better start taking the stance and culpability of the victim in these cases.

I am going to sound like an old man here but in hockey you have always had a certain level of responsibility to protect yourself and not put yourself in a position of vulnerability. There are dirty plays and I do not condone what Lowry did but if you look at a guy like Kaleta, a useless POS who shouldn't even be in the NHL, who is consistently hitting guys borderline you had better be protecting yourself. Standing 2 feet from the boards facing them in live action is montumentally stupid for any player, never mind a player who plays over the edge and is a target at all times.

My honest opinion? Kaleta was trying to make good for taking a penalty and being the cause of the first goal against by drawing one and he purposely stood like that so that he could draw a penalty. I think its delicious justice served that the Jets scored SH and pretty much snubbed out any attack by Buffalo during that PP.

Guys nowadays have the mentality that the NHL is going to police bad hits out of the game. Sure, I think they need to completely eliminate headshots with a CHL type rule set but guys turning their backs to the play to protect the puck along the boards is dangerous and stupid.

Guys like Peluso are getting 3 game suspensions because they are getting set for hits and their opponent is presenting their backs at the last minute.

When two players are both skating towards the boards and the pursuer rams the opponent into the boards that is one thing, but when you intentionally turn your back, that should not be a penalty.

 

[Evil Little]

I find it amazing that no one here apparently has yet to notice the motivation behind that hit.

Earlier in the game Kaleta took a roughing penalty on Lowry... from the game sheet...

More than that, I think it was Kaleta's chicken wing that Frolik got his head out of the way of earlier in the shift.

Standing 2 feet from the boards facing them in live action is montumentally stupid for any player, never mind a player who plays over the edge and is a target at all times.

Yup, Kaleta turned his back, then stood there for an unnaturally long time. Enough time for Lowry to let up though, unfortunately. Lowry's emotions certainly got the best of him.

 

[allan5oh]

Lowry was seeing numbers the whole time, it's not like Kaleta turned 90 degrees. He did turn a bit, but I doubt that's worth anything. The responsibility is on Lowry to let up, much like Kane did one other time.

 

[Koonta]

I said this before that will be the only time we will see that from Lowry, he made a bad mistake and is a smart enough kid to learn from that immediately, I've already seen games from him where he has let up on a vulnerable player but this shows what kind of respect there is for dirty, cheap players like Kaleta. I also agree with Jet's remarks. WTH was Kaleta standing with his back exposed for so long, stupid.

And how about fining Nolan for his remarks about revenge and as if Lowry has anything to worry about from anyone on the Sabres anyway. Adam can handle himself and they don't have John Scott anymore unless he's talking about noted pugilist Connor McDavid next year.

 

[scelaton]

The NHL had better start taking the stance and culpability of the victim in these cases.

I am going to sound like an old man here but in hockey you have always had a certain level of responsibility to protect yourself and not put yourself in a position of vulnerability. There are dirty plays and I do not condone what Lowry did but if you look at a guy like Kaleta, a useless POS who shouldn't even be in the NHL, who is consistently hitting guys borderline you had better be protecting yourself. Standing 2 feet from the boards facing them in live action is montumentally stupid for any player, never mind a player who plays over the edge and is a target at all times.

My honest opinion? Kaleta was trying to make good for taking a penalty and being the cause of the first goal against by drawing one and he purposely stood like that so that he could draw a penalty. I think its delicious justice served that the Jets scored SH and pretty much snubbed out any attack by Buffalo during that PP.

Guys nowadays have the mentality that the NHL is going to police bad hits out of the game. Sure, I think they need to completely eliminate headshots with a CHL type rule set but guys turning their backs to the play to protect the puck along the boards is dangerous and stupid.

This is a very interesting discussion and shows how, with all the right intentions, the NHL has painted itself into a corner. With their new focus on concussions and injury reduction, which I completely support, it is almost impossible for them to avoid at least a symbolic 1-game suspension for a hit like Lowry's.
And yet, a player like Kaleta can 'game' that mind set, turn his back to the hit, and 'dive' into the boards. The difference between that and the usual dive is that the possibility of serious injury is real, but players like Kaleta may not even care.
All the while, it is politically incorrect to question his motivations, without being labeled a dinosaur and pro-injury.
Changing times, tricky situation for the NHL and a learning experience for Lowry.

 

[KCjetsfan]

This is a very interesting discussion and shows how, with all the right intentions, the NHL has painted itself into a corner. With their new focus on concussions and injury reduction, which I completely support, it is almost impossible for them to avoid at least a symbolic 1-game suspension for a hit like Lowry's.
And yet, a player like Kaleta can 'game' that mind set, turn his back to the hit, and 'dive' into the boards. The difference between that and the usual dive is that the possibility of serious injury is real, but players like Kaleta may not even care.
All the while, it is politically incorrect to question his motivations, without being labeled a dinosaur and pro-injury.
Changing times, tricky situation for the NHL and a learning experience for Lowry.

oh come on. it's not like it was a last second turn of his back. he was set there for a very long time. lowry had two choices, he made the wrong one.

 

[scelaton]

oh come on. it's not like it was a last second turn of his back. he was set there for a very long time. lowry had two choices, he made the wrong one.

I was not making a value judgement about Lowry or his choices, but rather speculated about Katela's.

 

[KCjetsfan]

I made no comment about Lowry or his choices, but rather speculated about Katela's.

why does that matter? kaleta could be prancing around taunting him, if lowry hits him from behind, that's on lowry, not kaleta.

 

[garret9]

Don't agree with this whole notion of good on Lowry for getting retribution. Its ridiculous. Yeah Lowry sure got Kaleta. He won't do that again. Only he will do it again and again and again cause he knows bone heads like Lowry will take stupid penalties getting him back. Its aggravates me to no end when a player runs the goalie or something and gets a penalty then a Jet comes in and roughs him up. So rather than a powerplay we get offsetting penalties. But hey we sent a message that we won't tolerate that!!! Only it still happens cause "sending a message" is utterly pointless and what the aggravator wants you to do. How bout take the powerplay and score a goal. That will send a much better message.

Fan judgement gets clouded because we take it as an offense against us.

The truth is that revenge is only an effective deterrent if the threat is large enough for no one to do it in the first place.

Fans wanting revenge is fine. I want it often to be honest although I know why and what it really does. But, it does not deter (much), and if it did, the fact remains that the threat of physical harm could be redundant if the league installed an equally large non-physical threat towards the team and player (like more effective, consistent, and stern penalties, fines, and suspensions).....

Le sigh.

 

[scelaton]

why does that matter? kaleta could be prancing around taunting him, if lowry hits him from behind, that's on lowry, not kaleta.

You keep missing my point so I would encourage you to read my post again. I am not defending Lowry's actions and suspect he will be given a very short suspension. But, in the current climate it becomes almost impossible to speculate that players like Katela may be gaming the system without being castigated by the politically correct.
If you knew what I did for a living you would understand how little tolerance I have for unnecessary injury. But I have a pretty good grasp of people as well, and I strongly suspect that Kaleta is not just an innocent victim in all this.
Castigate away....

 

[allan5oh]

Doesn't matter how much Kaleta "baited" Lowry into hitting him, you still can't hit a guy in the numbers like that. He barely turned. Lowry will be suspended.

 

[KCjetsfan]

You keep missing my point so I would encourage you to read my post again. I am not defending Lowry's actions and suspect he will be given a very short suspension. But, in the current climate it becomes almost impossible to speculate that players like Katela may be gaming the system without being castigated by the politically correct.
If you knew what I did for a living you would understand how little tolerance I have for unnecessary injury. But I have a pretty good grasp of people as well, and I strongly suspect that Katela is not just an innocent victim in all this.
Castigate away....

I understand what you're saying, but don't feel it applies here.

It would be more applicable if it was more of a split second move by kaleta to turn exposing his numbers knowing the target he's presenting and the possibility of a player not letting up. That's where 'gaming' could come into play. A fair argument, but one that doesn't apply in this situation at all, imo.

As a broader point, I won't argue.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Unfortunately, any time a new rule is brought in, there will be those who figure out how to use that new rule. It's the same in any sport. In this case, there will always be someone who figures that if they stand in the right spot, turned the right way, there is a very good chance that they are taking an opponent out of the game. Especially if they are wearing more headgear than anyone else in the league, to protect themselves "in case" someone hits them.

But it's still up to the other players to be smarter than that.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You keep missing my point so I would encourage you to read my post again. I am not defending Lowry's actions and suspect he will be given a very short suspension. But, in the current climate it becomes almost impossible to speculate that players like Katela may be gaming the system without being castigated by the politically correct.
If you knew what I did for a living you would understand how little tolerance I have for unnecessary injury. But I have a pretty good grasp of people as well, and I strongly suspect that Kaleta is not just an innocent victim in all this.
Castigate away....

I think you have a very good point. It would be nice if players like Kaleta could also be penalized for baiting but that would be entirely too difficult to prove. At the same time though we can't excuse Lowry because he was baited. The appearance of that might
mitigate the penalty though. I hope Lowry will resist the bait in future.

 

[buggs]

Are you making an appearance in the new Star Wars film?

Strangely I have a Lego Yoda key-chain. In movie, I may be.

 

[tacogeoff]

stupid hit. had his numbers for a very long time. should be at least a game or a small fine, as hits like that do not belong in the game. regardless of whom is hit.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Suspended for one game:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=741268

NEW YORK -- Winnipeg Jets forward Adam Lowry has been suspended for one game, without pay, for boarding Buffalo Sabres forward Patrick Kaleta during NHL Game No. 323 in Buffalo on Wednesday, November 26, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.

 

[larmex99]

Suspended for one game:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=741268

Seems fair to me.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Suspended for one game:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=741268

I think it's about right. Next time Adam will be a repeat offender.

 

[Aries56]

Suspended for one game:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=741268

I'd say that's fair. Happy it's not more.

Sounds like Perrault is practicing with the team, good timing. I would hate to see Slater centering the third line next game.