UPDATE 3/5 - YouTube TV, Sinclair reach deal for FOX RSNs, but not in NY, CHI, or LA
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Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
this is also a negotiation tactic
Sinclair is new at this and should fold. YTTV has a ton of subsribers
Sinclair is new at this and should fold. YTTV has a ton of subsribers
ibleedkings
Rob Fake
Dish dropped them a while ago. I had to buy the NHL team package for like $95 and watch through Apple TV.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Buddy The Elf
Kings!
Just buy NHL tv and use a VPN. I haven't paid for cable in over four years. There are also plenty of places to watch the games that are pirated but I did the NHL a solid and bought the package but I do bypass their stupid blackout restrictions.
I've seen some people say this when discussing this topic but I honestly had never heard of them until today. Hard to believe they are worse than Spectrum.
As someone who has been a systems administrator/systems engineer for the last 20+ years the last thing I want to do is f*** around with a VPN at home to stream to my TV.
tny760
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definitely "don't" google search "lazyman"
if i want to watch on a TV i just chromecast to it, pretty painless
all these streaming service battles over rights and contracts are killing the industry, it's impossible to not jump ship between services almost monthly
if i want to watch on a TV i just chromecast to it, pretty painless
all these streaming service battles over rights and contracts are killing the industry, it's impossible to not jump ship between services almost monthly
KINGS17
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Wait, the games aren't on Channel 9 anymore?
Buddy The Elf
Kings!
I don't know tech stuff and I figured this out on my own. I was using a DNS proxy (not sure if that is the right term) with no problem prior. But I subscribe to a VPN that has an app for Fire TV and all you have to do is select the server and then once connected you open the NHL app and it streams in perfect HD.
ibleedkings
Rob Fake
I use unlocator and don't have to do ****. Works perfect for watching the Kings and Dodgers.
Wonderful. Been using YouTube since Jan 1 and don't mind it. The cost is much better than cable.
But now no FoxSports just when the kids will start filing thru is no bueno. Not to mention no basketball and Angels games.
dumb
Guess I'll join the Elks lodge and watch games there
But now no FoxSports just when the kids will start filing thru is no bueno. Not to mention no basketball and Angels games.
dumb
Guess I'll join the Elks lodge and watch games there
Buddy The Elf
Kings!
That's what I was using before a VPN. Never had a problem with it.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
I haven't had FSW all season since I have DISH. Just been waiting for them to finally get the RSNs bak but they haven't and they might never have them again unless they merge with DTV.
I've been using my parents DTV log in to watch on FSW Go but it is a real hassle to watch on delay. Bonus is that it actually looks better on the app via a 4k First Stick than it does through the DISH box.
Since they are so bad, it hasn't been as horrific as I thought it would be but I don't think I can do another season of this because I'm assuming they will be more entertaining next year.
The streaming services are a pain in the ass because none of them have everything you want and then you wind up paying a decent amount regardless to try and get everything. I know it is the future but it isn't awesome and they'll find a way to make it just as expensive as cable/dish has become while not having as good of an interface as say the Hopper 3 set top box I currently use.
As for Sinclair, they do suck but the writing was on the wall for this to happen even if Fox had retained ownership or Disney didn't have to get rid of it after the purchase. DISH, for example, has had multiple run-ins with FOX owned stations just since I started following this shit at the start of the NHL season. The providers want these to be an a la carte service while the RSNs want it to be mandatory. To compete with cord cutting, the providers don't want to have to raise base packages to offset the ever-rising costs of RSNs. The model is broken at this point and Sinclair just happens to be the one holding the bag when the music stopped. Hell, DISH doesn't even offer HBO anymore since HBO lets you get it directly from them for $15 a month with HBO Now. When DISH removed it from its lineup, the guide banner even said to go order HBO Now haha.
I've been using my parents DTV log in to watch on FSW Go but it is a real hassle to watch on delay. Bonus is that it actually looks better on the app via a 4k First Stick than it does through the DISH box.
Since they are so bad, it hasn't been as horrific as I thought it would be but I don't think I can do another season of this because I'm assuming they will be more entertaining next year.
The streaming services are a pain in the ass because none of them have everything you want and then you wind up paying a decent amount regardless to try and get everything. I know it is the future but it isn't awesome and they'll find a way to make it just as expensive as cable/dish has become while not having as good of an interface as say the Hopper 3 set top box I currently use.
As for Sinclair, they do suck but the writing was on the wall for this to happen even if Fox had retained ownership or Disney didn't have to get rid of it after the purchase. DISH, for example, has had multiple run-ins with FOX owned stations just since I started following this shit at the start of the NHL season. The providers want these to be an a la carte service while the RSNs want it to be mandatory. To compete with cord cutting, the providers don't want to have to raise base packages to offset the ever-rising costs of RSNs. The model is broken at this point and Sinclair just happens to be the one holding the bag when the music stopped. Hell, DISH doesn't even offer HBO anymore since HBO lets you get it directly from them for $15 a month with HBO Now. When DISH removed it from its lineup, the guide banner even said to go order HBO Now haha.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
So does Sinclair come out with it's own channel? or do they cave in after more services drop them
The more services they aren't on, the less negotiating power that they have
The more services they aren't on, the less negotiating power that they have
DoktorJeep
Luc and Rob are a waste of time and money.
This is frking garbage. I just switched to YTTV on Feb 1 because PlayStation Vue shut down.
I’m in the local market so NHL.tv blacks out the Kings/Ducks.
I watch on my Apple TV connected TV, so vpn is an even bigger hassle than normal.
ATT is a shit show between all their OTT apps.
It’s not even about money for me. I’ll pay for a reliable service that’s HD, works on my apple devices and doesn’t tie me to crappy equipment.
I think I’m left with Hulu Live and Sling as options.
I’m in the local market so NHL.tv blacks out the Kings/Ducks.
I watch on my Apple TV connected TV, so vpn is an even bigger hassle than normal.
ATT is a shit show between all their OTT apps.
It’s not even about money for me. I’ll pay for a reliable service that’s HD, works on my apple devices and doesn’t tie me to crappy equipment.
I think I’m left with Hulu Live and Sling as options.
Yeah I mean it's not that I can't do it, more the principle that I work in a salt mine all day, last thing I want to do when I come home is mine more salt.
Yup, looks that way.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Sling is not an option. It is owned by DISH so you won't get the RSNs.
Fubo is an option, I believe. No ABC or ESPN though. That's my point about this streaming shit: none of them have everything. During football season, only a couple have Red Zone but then you can't get ABC/ESPN and the other you can't get any Viacom-owned stuff.
It seems like it is always missing something. If one of them actually comes out with everything, it is still going to be expensive which the whole point is for it to be cheaper.
Regardless, it is completely mind blowing to live in a world where I don't get my local RSNs. I mean, I was watching Prime Ticket when I was like five years old but, in 2020, I can't watch a Kings game? Crazy.
KINGS17
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KINGS17
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What happened to my FOX Regional Sports Network?
As of January 1, 2020, FOX Regional Sports Networks have left fuboTV, like they have with other streaming TV providers.
Despite these changes, fuboTV continues to be a sports-focused cable TV replacement with home team coverage in top markets.
fuboTV still offers other regional sports networks including NBC Sports Networks in Chicago, Philadelphia, the San Francisco Bay area and Boston, NESN, MSG, and ATT Sportsnet Southwest.
Fox Sports Regional Networks seem to have the same genius strategy demonstrated by the Pac-12 Network in having as limited a distribution as possible.
I have DISH Network, so no Kings games there. I am cutting the satellite signal soon and switching to something like fuboTv, YouTube TV, or Sling though. I may even pick up two of them during college football season to make sure I get to see the games I want to watch from the Pac-12.
I have only watched a handful of Kings games all season, and haven't missed them much. Maybe Fox RSN's and distributors will get this figured out by the time it is worth watching almost every Kings game again.
As of January 1, 2020, FOX Regional Sports Networks have left fuboTV, like they have with other streaming TV providers.
Despite these changes, fuboTV continues to be a sports-focused cable TV replacement with home team coverage in top markets.
fuboTV still offers other regional sports networks including NBC Sports Networks in Chicago, Philadelphia, the San Francisco Bay area and Boston, NESN, MSG, and ATT Sportsnet Southwest.
Fox Sports Regional Networks seem to have the same genius strategy demonstrated by the Pac-12 Network in having as limited a distribution as possible.
I have DISH Network, so no Kings games there. I am cutting the satellite signal soon and switching to something like fuboTv, YouTube TV, or Sling though. I may even pick up two of them during college football season to make sure I get to see the games I want to watch from the Pac-12.
I have only watched a handful of Kings games all season, and haven't missed them much. Maybe Fox RSN's and distributors will get this figured out by the time it is worth watching almost every Kings game again.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Lol. I missed that they dropped them too. What a shit show.
During pre-season and beginning of the year, I did weekly trials on all of them to keep watching the games as long as I could. I actually dug Fubo but I think I would have chosen PS Vue because they had Red Zone. Now the latter is gone and the former still doesn't get me the Kings.
I'm never going back to Spectrum though so I'll just have to figure it out for next season.
KINGS17
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Yeah, someone at Fox Sports has obviously overestimated the value of their product, and their head is up and locked.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
It was already coming down the pike even if Fox remained as the owners. Disney had to divest themselves for some reason when they made the Fox purchase so Sinclair came in and bought them.
It could be that Sinclair is being unreasonable but RSN fights are becoming much more common. Pretty sure DISH still doesn't carry Altitude and I think there were/are some problems with some NBCSN regionals.
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Just a read an article where Sinclair is tossing out the possibility of its own streaming service for the RSNs.
