That's not what you were saying, but this clears it up.
You see risk in all contracts, fair enough.
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You see risk in all contracts, fair enough.
dumbdick
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Ullmark looks extremely fast.
Even if he can't match the same levels he reached in Boston, he's gonna give us a really solid chance to win.
Biggest impact you can make is upgrading in net. It makes bad teams good and good teams great.
If the leafs made this move five years ago they'd have a couple more banners in their barn.
Even if he can't match the same levels he reached in Boston, he's gonna give us a really solid chance to win.
Biggest impact you can make is upgrading in net. It makes bad teams good and good teams great.
If the leafs made this move five years ago they'd have a couple more banners in their barn.
SpezDispenser
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It's the locker room voice that I bet is awesome from him that's the huge added benefit. He seems like someone who will call out the team when they play badly in between periods - probably like Alfie in that regard, but also someone who will be a great teammate and continuously praise good work etc, while showing a great work ethic himself.
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Sting
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Your first mistake is believing anything - anything - on that podcast. Kyper does not try to hide his Leaf bias. For those of us who have known him throughout the years, his anti-Sens bias is just as strong as his pro-Leaf stance.
That said - goalie "coaches" are just that - coaches. They're not starting goalies in the NHL. They can try and watch video and make suggestions here and there but they aren't the ones stopping pucks. I would take that guy's opinion with a grain of salt.
What we do have at our disposal is a couple pre-season games and a win against the defending Stanley Cup champions last night. It doesn't take long to know if a goalie has "it". It took probably 2 games last year for all of us to know Korpisalo isn't great.
People can try and argue Ullmark was a product of the system but I'm going to disagree. He's a phenomenal goalie. Watch his saves last night. Probably the best sequence was the team getting hemmed in, the Panthers getting a chance and then one of them taking the puck around back for a wrap-around only to get stoned by Ullmark. The sheer athleticism and reaction time to make that save was world-class. 100% that is a goal against by Murray, Korpisalo, Forsberg, Soogard etc.
Again - we're one game in and Ullmark just got us 2 points. Let that sink in. This team missed by what, 13 points last season? I'd say things are looking good.
you suggest I base my thoughts on what people that have no contacts and connections feel because...fan
I suggest people should be able to hear things without throwing a little fit.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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I think it's just gotten a little old for Sens fans. We've been hearing all summer about how Korpisalo is gonna go to Boston and because of their supposed elite defensive system will suddenly turn in to a reliable goaltender, all while completely ignoring his lackluster career before he came to Ottawa. Then there's fabrications around Ullmark's career and trying to make it seem as though he only succeeded because of their defensive system and wasn't any good in Buffalo and would crumble in Ottawa. It's BS. Korpisalo sucks and Ullmark is obviously in the top 5-10 starters in the league.
I saw Korpisalo 8 feet to the right side of the net facing the back boards in full stance on his knees trying to save a pass. lol That guy is complete trash.
Ullmark has been great so far, but there is a risk involved, he has no track record of playing lots of games. It's not just playing more games, the rest between games could be an issue. Could be. nobody is saying it will be, or that he sucks, It is an unknown and that equals risk.
There is also reports on the TV saying he was the type that didn't want to play all the time.
that shows a bit of risk. Could they be wrong? yes. could they be right? yes
Kyper and Bourne both seem to be growing fond of the sens these days. They like Brady and Kyp was saying he used to play with Ridley's dad and he was glowing with pride saying how much he like his clapper goal. So I don't think calling them haters or biased is correct
I hope he does want to play a lot and can, But for argument sake any goalie looking for a huge contract is going to say how much he wants to play all the games,
Time will tell.
I am not sure why that would make people mad or upset or demand others don't post, or insist they are not fans. It is what it is
its a discussion forum. Its the entire point
The point is if you think signing the goalie who has the best numbers in the NHL for the last 2 years and has good to great numbers his entire career is a risk, then you think making any move is a risk.
You can try and back it up, however you want, but to most people, it is a slam dunk move that you make 100 out of 100 times.
Goalies make or break teams! The far greater risk was keeping the status quo with Korpisalo, and their term is basically the same.
Well ya its a risk you take. I'm fairly sure I never suggested otherwise. I was wishing Boston would have won its contract game and gotten a 7 million dollar contract done.
Its a good contract for the Sens. 4 years ..going rate on a crappy team that most often has to give extra cash for those UFA's to play.
but after the last 8 years I am conditioned to wait for the disaster to show its face.
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Xspyrit
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Awesome job by Staios
Took 2 major mistakes from Dorion and turned it in a positive situation even if a goalie can't be worth a 7th OA
Fixed most of the Korpisalo mistake and used that late 1st to get a core piece for at least 5 years, something that would have been hard to do with a 25th OA pick.
Makes the pill of losing a 7th OA pick, a 2nd and a 3rd for nothing more palatable
Took 2 major mistakes from Dorion and turned it in a positive situation even if a goalie can't be worth a 7th OA
Fixed most of the Korpisalo mistake and used that late 1st to get a core piece for at least 5 years, something that would have been hard to do with a 25th OA pick.
Makes the pill of losing a 7th OA pick, a 2nd and a 3rd for nothing more palatable
You should read Chicken Little.
It's also not a bad contract or an extra fee. Everything about him from his abilities on the ice to his off ice leadership and his community presence are what you pray for from the organizational standpoint.
I guarantee you everyone involved in the Senators is ecstatic how this turned out, and nobody feels it is risky.
frightenedinmatenum2
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The trade is looking very good with how little they paid to dump Korpisalo, and how little it will cost them in dead cap if he is bought out by Boston next offseason. The retention is going to end up being negligible after this season if he is bought out. The dead cap after a buyout is about 1.83M, but there is also a cap credit of about 915k. So a buyout averages out to about 153k per season for 6 seasons, it is just lopsided how it is distributed.
The short of it is that if he is bought out next year, the Sens got out of 16M of bad cap (about 12M if buried) at a cost of less than 2M (1M this season, 917k over 6 more seasons).
