GDT: UFA Frenzy 2024 - We're ALL Gonna Die

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Like the signing but still not really a second liner.

He doesn't have to be. He can play more of a Noesen-type role on the team. 4th line at even-strength, heavy PP usage, with an added bonus that he can take RHed faceoffs.

 

[Buenos Necas]

Decent enough player as long as he's slotting in on the 3rd line. Hopefully the number comes in under $3m.

I do wonder where Fast's health is at this point, doesn't seem like he's even close to playing condition. Hope he can get himself healed for the long-term.

 

[Unsustainable]

Decent enough player as long as he's slotting in on the 3rd line. Hopefully the number comes in under $3m.

I do wonder where Fast's health is at this point, doesn't seem like he's even close to playing condition. Hope he can get himself healed for the long-term.

Fast is a big question coming, he was still in the neck brace at the end of the season interviews

 

[User13452]

Need to see price and term before judgement hopefully a 1 year deal but I could see it being multiple if they want to bring the aav down. Although a 1 year deal shouldn’t be over 3

 

[tarheelhockey]

And as I said banking on 2 or 3 guys falling off sure is a forced negative and seems unlikely to happen. You are not the only one but you sure seem to be hanging on to what might happen in the worst case scenario.

2 or 3 guys having a bad season is not nearly a worst case scenario. It’s business as usual.

 

[spockBokk]

Roslovic replaces Teravainen for me.

They still need at minimum 1 more bonafide top 6 forward along with Necas (or who they get as part of Necas trade) and Jarvis.

And to echo another earlier thought - I think Fast is done.

 

[Negan4Coach]

No doubt he’s a better defensive player.

I’ve been saying for a lot of years on here — the only time a winger’s own-zone defense really moves the needle is a Jarvis situation where he’s an important part of the PK. Otherwise, it’s an extremely marginal factor in winning hockey games. This is even more the case in modern defensive systems where a lot of the shot blocking comes from multi-layered defense where the winger is just a traffic cone forcing the opponent to shoot into a defenseman’s shin pads.

What you need defensively from a winger is offensive zone pressure, turnovers on the forecheck. Skinner was and is a puck hound, if a little sloppy with his stick (like Svech). And the chaos he created led to goals, a lot of goals.

Defense really does matter at the C position. I’d be quite happy with Kuzy in a bottom 6 role where he could contribute defensively and we could gamble on him finding his offensive upside. Basically the Jordan Staal, Jesperi Kotkaniemi model. But as currently constructed, we can’t do that… one of those three guys has to go into the top 6. That’s my issue with Kuzy, he’s way overslotted and now we aren’t just gambling on his offensive upside, we’re depending on it.

Thank you for such a nuanced explanation of the situation.

 

[htdoc]

I’m actually a bit confused what they are doing…. Creating org depth and depth at Chicago if these signings don’t work, I guess.. setting up a training camp competition and having control and leverage to dump players to the minors with no cap penalty if they come in and can’t play our system?

I don’t see a lineup unless we are playing a lot of 3rd lines since we don’t have a locked in first and second line yet?

There has to be some trades coming and this is not the fully baked cake yet….

 

[ndp]

Roslovic replaces Teravainen for me.

Jarvis is, and has been TT’s replacement.

Roslovic is something else, he’s got quite a bit of ground to make up to be a one for one Turbo replacement IMO.


As far as the fwd group it’s a bit of an odd bag right now. Too much 3rd line.

Have a feeling they’re working on a trade or two. Team construction overall feels weird right now. Even the defense which seems basically set doesn’t feel like a RBA team. Feels like a Tulsky team, which is and could be fine, but it’s still an RBA coached team.

Pesce, despite seemingly loosing about half a step last season is still one of the best in the league at defending the rush and shutting down passing lanes. That part of his game is going to be sorely missed, like it was in the playoffs. Not sure if Ghost and Walker are going to be able to fill that void. Maybe they’re banking on Chatfield taking another step. Sjkei and Pesce did a lot of heavy lifting on the defensive side of things. It’s going to interesting to see who picks up the bulk of their minutes.

Still need a whole ass second line. Those penciling Drury into that #2C slot are doing some serious grasping. Dude is a 3rd liner at best.

 

[BadgerCane58]

I usually don’t dabble in this stuff because trying to gauge value is always tough but:

Necas + 2025 2nd for Ehlers + McGroarty

Thoughts?

Throw in KoKoMonkey and the deal is done.

 

[Francis10]

Jarvis is, and has been TT’s replacement.

Roslovic is something else, he’s got quite a bit of ground to make up to be a one for one Turbo replacement IMO.


As far as the fwd group it’s a bit of an odd bag right now. Too much 3rd line.

Have a feeling they’re working on a trade or two. Team construction overall feels weird right now. Even the defense which seems basically set doesn’t feel like a RBA team. Feels like a Tulsky team, which is and could be fine, but it’s still an RBA coached team.

Pesce, despite seemingly loosing about half a step last season is still one of the best in the league at defending the rush and shutting down passing lanes. That part of his game is going to be sorely missed, like it was in the playoffs. Not sure if Ghost and Walker are going to be able to fill that void. Maybe they’re banking on Chatfield taking another step. Sjkei and Pesce did a lot of heavy lifting on the defensive side of things. It’s going to interesting to see who picks up the bulk of their minutes.

Still need a whole ass second line. Those penciling Drury into that #2C slot are doing some serious grasping. Dude is a 3rd liner at best.

Very odd bag of forwards right now I agree. Also agree that Drury is at the very best a 3rd/4th line centre. But Rod loves him it seems, so who knows where he gets penciled into Rods lineup.

 

[Borsig]

too many 3rd line forwards....

Isnt that our MO?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

NVM....I don't have the energy for it.

 

[NotOpie]

Now subtract martin’s salary and we get 14.48 which is what I have been saying along.

So again subtract 2 more forwards and we have 16 million with 10 forwards, 6 defenders and 2 goalie2.

Good catch; forgot about Martin.

Not sure if Ghost and Walker are going to be able to fill that void.

I think we're all going to be presently surprised at how good Walker is defensively.

 

[chaz4hockey]

I just realized that Necas can't and won't be traded.

I have Aho-Svetch-Slavin-Jarvis-Burns & Necas bobbleheads and everyone but Necas have/had/will get long-term deals. Necas is due......

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

too many 3rd line forwards....

Isnt that our MO?

And you know what they say, MO must go

 

[Borsig]

And you know what they say, MO must go

Yeah to fla.

 

[User13452]

1x 2.8 for roslovic

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

1x 2.8 for roslovic

Not bad. Cheap help for our forward group. I'll take it.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

How we started last year

Turbo-Aho-Jarvis
Svech-Kk-necas
Marty-staal-fast
Noesen-drury-bunting

Now we have

Svech-Aho-Jarvis
Roslovic-Kuzy-Necas
Marty-staal-fast
Kk-drury-carrier

The line combos aren’t that important. We aren’t that far changed on offense.

 

[bleedgreen]

How we started last year

Turbo-Aho-Jarvis
Svech-Kk-necas
Marty-staal-fast
Noesen-drury-bunting

Now we have

Svech-Aho-Jarvis
Roslovic-Kuzy-Necas
Marty-staal-fast
Kk-drury-carrier

The line combos aren’t that important. We aren’t that far changed on offense.

You forgot the fifth line….

 

[MyLuckyPuck]

Going to try to win every game 1-0. Got it.

 

[ElmCityGuy]

I think the new GM has done a fairly good job putting together a lineup along with saving money.. only hoping this will lead to trading for one high dollar forward.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I still think they have to be planning on shipping out 1 or 2 of Necas, KK or Drury. Didn't Tulsky comment that one or two rookies would be in the line-up? I didn't listen to his press conference so just going off what I thought someone posted.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I still think they have to be planning on shipping out 1 or 2 of Necas, KK or Drury. Didn't Tulsky comment that one or two rookies would be in the line-up? I didn't listen to his press conference so just going off what I thought someone posted.

He said we are asking some guys to step into bigger roles