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Player Discussion Tyler Seguin

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oconnor9sean said:
Franchise #1C > 2 2nd Line wingers
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Eriksson was not a second line winger, though he have regressed into one but at the time of the trade Eriksson++ was good value for Seguin. Smith very well may be a first line winger. Let's not be like some Bruins fans and change facts so it fits into our own bias. Joe Morrow is also a very good prospect.
 
MetalGodAOD said:
And those people refuse to change their mind despite presented with facts. Cognitive dissonance at it's best.
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intellectually dishonest. almost embarrassingly so.

you made a great argument though. your stats were excellent and relevant. fun from over here. i kept wanting to jump in and there would be a post with you making my point already. seriously, good stuff.
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* reminder - feeding trolls just makes more troll poop. :)
 
Whoop whoop!
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He sucks ... 3 points against ONLY the 7th place Minnesota Wild. Guy is awful.
 
My tally: first assist was secondary, shouldn't count. Second assist involved no pass, nothing to see there. Goal tied the game, essentially making it 0-0, so yeah, 0 points count.

Does it work like that on main board?
 
Troy McClure said:
You need to talk about how scoring three points wouldn't fit in with the Boston system.
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Oh ****, that's right.......so wait, that means we need to deduct an arbitrary number of points throughout the season? Something like -30 or something? I dunno, this is complex stuff.

Good on Seguin for upping the ante on Modano night. It was an important win for a variety of reasons, and he did it with a full crowd. I'm sure a few more people are aware of him now in Dallas.
 
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he made an incredible defensive play where he used his speed to get back on an odd man rush by the wildies, he broke it up of course

wish i had a gif of that, think it was in third
 
Not a bad look.

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He probably knew he'd get criticized on HF for scoring an unnecessary empty netter there at the end so he graciously declined to pad his stats. That's the kind of gentlemanly play that'll bring home the Lady Byng.
 
Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski

He'd have to finish in the Top 5 in points, and Dallas would have to be a playoff team. But, um ... Seguin for Hart?
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He must only look at stats. There's no way he's see him play or he'd understand he's a terrible hockey player.
 
BigG44 said:
He must only look at stats. There's no way he's see him play or he'd understand he's a terrible hockey player.
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he can't be a complete player if he isn't in clode's system of bruin superiorness
 
Klockis said:
Eriksson was not a second line winger, though he have regressed into one but at the time of the trade Eriksson++ was good value for Seguin. Smith very well may be a first line winger. Let's not be like some Bruins fans and change facts so it fits into our own bias. Joe Morrow is also a very good prospect.
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Change facts? There's a better argument for Eriksson being a #3 winger then there is for him being a #2 winger right now. Prodcution wise he's been on the cusp of being a viable top 6 player the last two years. 40-50 points is serviceable, not ideal. He'' struggle even more in Boston due to a reduced role and ice time. Seguin is a 30+ goal, 80+ point winger at 22, still a boy among men.

Eriksson++ is great value for Seguin if you're the ones getting Seguin. The only way this trade doesn't look like a complete ass ****** is if Boston has enough solid places in place to again win a cup.
 
Kaoz said:
Change facts? There's a better argument for Eriksson being a #3 winger then there is for him being a #2 winger right now. Prodcution wise he's been on the cusp of being a viable top 6 player the last two years. 40-50 points is serviceable, not ideal. He'' struggle even more in Boston due to a reduced role and ice time. Seguin is a 30+ goal, 80+ point winger at 22, still a boy among men.

Eriksson++ is great value for Seguin if you're the ones getting Seguin. The only way this trade doesn't look like a complete ass ****** is if Boston has enough solid places in place to again win a cup.
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At the time Eriksson was regarded as a first line 70 point winger with great two-way ability.

Seguin was a 60 point player with a lot of question marks, who was forced to play wing.

At the time the trade made sense for the Bruins and still do if they win a cup.
 
Kaoz said:
Change facts? There's a better argument for Eriksson being a #3 winger then there is for him being a #2 winger right now. Prodcution wise he's been on the cusp of being a viable top 6 player the last two years. 40-50 points is serviceable, not ideal. He'' struggle even more in Boston due to a reduced role and ice time. Seguin is a 30+ goal, 80+ point winger at 22, still a boy among men.

Eriksson++ is great value for Seguin if you're the ones getting Seguin. The only way this trade doesn't look like a complete ass ****** is if Boston has enough solid places in place to again win a cup.
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I think it's safe to say that, while Seguin has been electric in Dallas, Boston doesn't seem to have lost a step, even with Loui's many struggles this season. Reilly's stepped up huge, and the rest of the team is stacked enough to make up for Seguin's absence.

The B's are perennial contenders so their continued stay at or near the top of the conference isn't surprising.
 
Overall ... it's bull.... that both organizations can't just be happy with what appears to be a rather fair trade.

Boston ... from the team to the media and fans had to turn it into a witchhunt. I'm happy to see Reilly Smith succeed in Boston, and I believe Eriksson will rebound from this crazy injury season to be a great player for them. Boston's attitude though sucks overall ... obviously some great, realistic posters ... but mostly a bunch of sour pusses make it a little sweeter to see Seguin blow up in Dallas.
 
Speaking of .... he just scored to tie the game as I re-watch last night's event.

His decision to say F this awful power play and take the puck himself saved that game last night. Love re-watching this game.
 
BigG44 said:
but mostly a bunch of sour pusses make it a little sweeter to see Seguin blow up in Dallas.
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Then they turn it into a "I knew he was going to blow up in Dallas, but it doesn't matter. He's doing it against awful teams, inconsistently...and he won't show up in the post season."

Over it. Get drunk Boston. Y'all need more than a couple of drinks.
 
BigG44 said:
Boston's attitude though sucks overall ... obviously some great, realistic posters ... but mostly a bunch of sour pusses make it a little sweeter to see Seguin blow up in Dallas.
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They're the same way about the Sox, Celtics, and Pats. Just the way people seem to be there.
 
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