Value of: Tyler Myers as a UFA.
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Hoglander
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Buyout is virtually pointless. I'm all for paying the bonus and retaining, though. I'm so sick of watching this no-hockey-IQ player make boneheaded mistake after boneheaded mistake.
I wouldn't even want him as a cheap depth player because his negatives far outweigh any positives. For a big guy with such a long reach and decent skating, the only consistent part of his game, is that he allows wide open high-danger chances on the regular.
Somebody, anybody... please take him
I wouldn't even want him as a cheap depth player because his negatives far outweigh any positives. For a big guy with such a long reach and decent skating, the only consistent part of his game, is that he allows wide open high-danger chances on the regular.
Somebody, anybody... please take him
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Setting aside that he won't be bought out. I'll pretend he was suddenly a UFA.
Most teams wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd pair guy, where you'd pay 2-2.5 million tops. But there would be a team somewhere that would think they can use him in a top 4 role, and would offer 3-4 million. So that's what I expect he would take.
Most teams wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd pair guy, where you'd pay 2-2.5 million tops. But there would be a team somewhere that would think they can use him in a top 4 role, and would offer 3-4 million. So that's what I expect he would take.
Killer Orcas
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Every one of those things was by previous management besides the Miller deal. Considering how well Miller is playing I'm sure he would have gotten more in free agency this off season. I would have traded him last year to but if the offer wasn't there and he wanted to stay it's not the worst move. As per Myers no reason at all to buy him out when there is literally no savings.
Edit sorry the first traded for Hronek was current regime and not something I'm happy with. Hopefully he turns out to be right decision.
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Fatass
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Myers will complete this contract. He only has one year left. I guess Van could attach a first to dump the contract (like what the Leafs did with Marleau) and clear the cap that way?
MarkovsKnee
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Vancouver won't buy him out, and should be able to trade him after his $5m bonus is paid out.
There are however 2 issues: one is bonus payment sounds like it's really late (1st day of training camp), and he has a 10 team NTC.
The teams likely to be able to take on his full hit are likely to be tank teams (Chicago, Arizona, etc). He can easily list the bottom 7 teams from this year, which would make it more difficult.
That would leave 50% retainment, which at $3m, isn't too bad. He should get some interest at that rate. If they bring in a 3rd team, can get it down to $1.5m - $2.25m.
There are however 2 issues: one is bonus payment sounds like it's really late (1st day of training camp), and he has a 10 team NTC.
The teams likely to be able to take on his full hit are likely to be tank teams (Chicago, Arizona, etc). He can easily list the bottom 7 teams from this year, which would make it more difficult.
That would leave 50% retainment, which at $3m, isn't too bad. He should get some interest at that rate. If they bring in a 3rd team, can get it down to $1.5m - $2.25m.
Can waive him after the bonus is paid instead. I'm sure a team would claim him then. I still think he ends up in AZ.
MarkovsKnee
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Highly doubtful. No one is picking up a $6m cap hit without compensation regardless of salary.
He can block a move to Arizona, although if they promise to trade him at TDL maybe he will agree to it.
Can't block a waiver claim, and cap hit is irrelevant to the Coyotes.
jackjohnson
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2 of those which was under current regime is not comparable to the 2 by Benning. If you are comparing OEL contract to Miller then you probably don't watch the Canucks much. Miller is part of the core so his signing is well justified for a 100 point forward. I take him over John Tavares who gets paid 11 million. Heck I even take him over Nylander too. The only 2 players on the Leafs that might be better than Miller are Matthews and Marner. Miller would be the 3rd best forward on the Leafs
MarkovsKnee
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Why would they claim him?
Arizona is still tanking next year. Vancouver can waive him all they want. No team will claim with a $6m cap hit.
hamzarocks
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Can teams come to an agreement on who pays the signing bonus?
Could the canucks agree to term they pay the signing bonus on Sept 15 and move him at the draft?
jackjohnson
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Teams like Arizona that want more of that revenue sharing while trying not to pay much will. Paying 1 mil for a 6 mil cap. It's attractive to rebuilding teams that want to get a free pick while tanking and at the same time not paying much in real money.
Maybe they can make it conditional that the Canucks give up a 1st 2024 conditional and Myers with conditions being that Arizona gets 1st round pick in 2024 if Canucks don't pay 5 million by September 15. If they pay then conditional 2024 1st will become 2024 2nd.
MarkovsKnee
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Exactly. A free pick. Guy I was answering to seemed to think they would pluck him off waivers just because ..... they're nice? Or, something?
No one is taking him of waivers. Vancouver will trade him & a pick to get rid of him. He has a 10 team NTC, so could block a move to Arizona if he wanted to.
mouser
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No. That would be the equivalent of including cash in a trade, which is not permitted in anything other than a Retained Salary Transaction.
Djp
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Post bonus paid acquision…..
Arizona does not. They can make the floor just promoting ELCs and signing $1M fillers
Anaheim on the other hand needs a high cap hit and could take him on post bonus. Anaheim is in a far bigger hole to get to the cap floor.
most other teams can get to the floor so to take myers will require a sweetener or they send back a high contract
Arizona traded a valuable player in Mayo for Shea Weber's contract, they would be all over Myers after his signing bonus is paid don't kid yourself. That's savings of 5 million dollars for a team struggling to hit the floor and losing virtually every real dollar they pay in player salary
It takes less than 1 minute to find out that buying out Myers literally has ZERO benefit to do this off season...5m SB paid on July 1, he would have over a 5m dead cap hit if bought out...
Make this thread again in a year/
MarkovsKnee
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They're gonna turn down savings of 5 million over a 3rd or 2nd round pick? When they can flip him at the deadline @ 50% for at least a third? You realize he would cost them less money than they're paying Valimaaki who they did claim for free and who was very much a question mark as an NHLer going into this season
Did they? He's not a world beater but he should be decently valuable to a contender just as an established NHL regular with that sub 1mm contract
