Player Discussion Tyler Kleven (D) at 44th Overall (Sens traded up)

[Loach]

I'm thinking that their respective ice time ends up a bit tilted to Chabot 5 on 5 but that kleven ends up with more pk time than Chabot has pp time.

And I'd say that if the season progresses how it has started - with kleven handling his ice time and Chabot doing what drives some of us nuts - that there's a view where Kleven is playing top 4 before year end.

Natural Stat trick thingy has Sanderson, Jensen, Chabot, Hamonic as the leaders. With Zub 5th, but he's been out. Kleven has barely played at all on the pk. I'm probably reading it wrong. If not, it seems unlikely that Kleven plays enough pk to pass Chabot.

 

[Micklebot]

Natural Stat trick thingy has Sanderson, Jensen, Chabot, Hamonic as the leaders. With Zub 5th, but he's been out. Kleven has barely played at all on the pk. I'm probably reading it wrong. If not, it seems unlikely that Kleven plays enough pk to pass Chabot.

Kleven is a rookie, I think they are easing him in, but I do expect him to become a mainstay on the PK as he gains more experience and the coaches trust.

 

[Loach]

Kleven is a rookie, I think they are easing him in, but I do expect him to become a mainstay on the PK as he gains more experience and the coaches trust.

Agree. Next year would line up more no? Or do you see it start to happen this year? I guess it would depend on Kleven. I just answered my own question.....

 

[Micklebot]

Agree. Next year would line up more no? Or do you see it start to happen this year? I guess it would depend on Kleven. I just answered my own question.....

I think it will start to happen this year, he's really proving himself fast imo.

 

[BondraTime]

Kleven will likely start to get some PK minutes, but that will come at his ES minutes

Can't see him eclipsing 16/17ish mins a night this year

 

[JD1]

Agree. Next year would line up more no? Or do you see it start to happen this year? I guess it would depend on Kleven. I just answered my own question.....

It does depend on Kleven and it also depends on Chatbot

New coach, you'd think no (or less) loyalty

I think Kleven has looked pretty damn good. It's early and he's being eased in. The games will get quicker and harder so it'll be interesting to see how he handles that

If he continues to do well, you'd think his ice time grows.

And Chatbot has been less than stellar. I do see a world where his minutes drop below Kleven. If Kleven keeps progressing and Chabot doesn't get his head out of his ass, it's going to happen

 

[JD1]

Kleven will likely start to get some PK minutes, but that will come at his ES minutes

Can't see him eclipsing 16/17ish mins a night this year

Idk about that. Kleven isn't a kid. He's turning 23 in January. Hockey dB has him at 220 lbs. He's hitting people coming down that wall. Jason York is always saying you need to know who's on the ice when you get out there. Well, you need to know Kleven is there.

You want to be hard to play against? He's hard to play to against. I don't think we can say that about Chabot.

I think it's going to be interesting to watch it unfold.

 

[BondraTime]

Idk about that. Kleven isn't a kid. He's turning 23 in January. Hockey dB has him at 220 lbs. He's hitting people coming down that wall. Jason York is always saying you need to know who's on the ice when you get out there. Well, you need to know Kleven is there.

You want to be hard to play against? He's hard to play to against. I don't think we can say that about Chabot.

I think it's going to be interesting to watch it unfold.

Absolutely, and he's been playing about 14:30ish thus far, and has looked ok in doing it. We needed to have a hard to play against guy on the bottom pair rather than the Brannstrom's, and he has absolueltly added that.

He's going to see an increse in playing time, but it's likely to be about an extra 1:30ish, not an extrteme amount bringing him up close to our #1 and 2 guys, which is very unlikely to change moving forward this year, regardless of what we think of it.

By year end it's likely we see a share similar to this

25/26 minute a night Sanderson, currently our #1 getting 25:50 a night
20/22 Chabot, currently our #2 getting 22:50 a night
16/17 a night Kleven, currently our #6 (including Zub) getting 14:50

There isn't really a scenario, barring a trade of Chabot, where Kleven is getting major minutes this year, and even then it's not a likely scenario; they are going to want a puck mover on the 2nd pair, and Kleven and Jenson, as solid defensively and physical as they may be, are not that.

Kleven "should" get more than the 14:50 he is getting, but it's defnitiely not going to be a 5+ minute increase

 

[bicboi64]

Looking forward to seeing him handle an additional minute or so per game as he gets PK time

 

[Sun God Nika]

Ya I am sold.

Was wondering what he would look like with the opposition controlling who he plays against and he looked solid . Getting better every game. I think we got that extra defencemen everyone is saying we should have traded for.

 

[aragorn]

Kleven off to a solid start of the season, he's exactly what the Sens have needed on the 3rd pairing, nice to see others think the same.

 

[mysens]

What a gigantic upgrade over Branstrom. Wow.

 

[Dan Patrick]

What a gigantic upgrade over Branstrom. Wow.

I don’t know about gigantic, 6 inches is pretty average I think

 

[Micklebot]

What a gigantic upgrade over Branstrom. Wow.

I'm surprised there was ever any doubt that would be the case.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Listened to the Sens Nation (Warne and Kennedy) and the way they talked about Kleven made me truly question what the f*** they are watching.
Might have just been Steve can’t quite recall - but it was really weird.

 

[Loach]

Listened to the Sens Nation (Warne and Kennedy) and the way they talked about Kleven made me truly question what the f*** they are watching.
Might have just been Steve can’t quite recall - but it was really weird.

What they say? I don't listen to them.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Listened to the Sens Nation (Warne and Kennedy) and the way they talked about Kleven made me truly question what the f*** they are watching.
Might have just been Steve can’t quite recall - but it was really weird.

They are like tuning in to listen to Garrioch for a half hour. Nauseating fluff masters

 

[Masked]

They are like tuning in to listen to Garrioch for a half hour. Nauseating fluff masters

Please never compare Steve Warne, who is a good guy, to Garrioch, who is not.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Please never compare Steve Warne, who is a good guy, to Garrioch, who is not.

Never commented on if they are good guys or not. I am comparing the quality of their articles and broadcasts. Both suck.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Kleven playing well.

Looks like 3 times better with jbd.

 

[Loach]

Never commented on if they are good guys or not. I am comparing the quality of their articles and broadcasts. Both suck.

Warne was bad when he was on the morning show. People say Wallace has an axe to grind...listen to Warne go off about the station. Lol.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

Looking for him to K-Train somebody. Like, 30 page thread on the main board kind of K-Train.

 

[Cosmix]

Absolutely, and he's been playing about 14:30ish thus far, and has looked ok in doing it. We needed to have a hard to play against guy on the bottom pair rather than the Brannstrom's, and he has absolueltly added that.

He's going to see an increse in playing time, but it's likely to be about an extra 1:30ish, not an extrteme amount bringing him up close to our #1 and 2 guys, which is very unlikely to change moving forward this year, regardless of what we think of it.

By year end it's likely we see a share similar to this

25/26 minute a night Sanderson, currently our #1 getting 25:50 a night
20/22 Chabot, currently our #2 getting 22:50 a night
16/17 a night Kleven, currently our #6 (including Zub) getting 14:50

There isn't really a scenario, barring a trade of Chabot, where Kleven is getting major minutes this year, and even then it's not a likely scenario; they are going to want a puck mover on the 2nd pair, and Kleven and Jenson, as solid defensively and physical as they may be, are not that.

Kleven "should" get more than the 14:50 he is getting, but it's defnitiely not going to be a 5+ minute increase

When Yakemchuk arrives, he might become the puck-moving 3RD with Kleven at 3LD.

Our current set of RDs are not puck movers: Zub, Jensen, JBD & Hamonic.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

When Yakemchuk arrives, he might become the puck-moving 3RD with Kleven at 3LD.

Our current set of CDs are not puck movers: Zub, Jensen, JBD & Hamonic.

I think Zub and Jensen move the puck under control well. They just are not as offensive

 

[bicboi64]

When Yakemchuk arrives, he might become the puck-moving 3RD with Kleven at 3LD.

Our current set of CDs are not puck movers: Zub, Jensen, JBD & Hamonic.

That'd be a huge 3rd pairing. 6ft5 Kleven and 6ft3 Yak good ole giants