Value of: Ty Smith
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Who's more likely to be moved, Smith or Graves?
Surprised he would be on the block already?
Has he disappointed or just not a fit/excess PMD on left side?
Surprised he would be on the block already?
Has he disappointed or just not a fit/excess PMD on left side?
Eggtimer
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I’m at the point where Devils should be thinking about adding an elite winger even if it takes their 1st round pick. Unless it’s a sure fire stud franchise player that is available with that pick.
Hopefully the D market is hot and some team that misses out on Charot / Chychrun will be willing to pay to get someone like Smith or Severson.
I’d rather move Smith but Severson might be redundant and cost too much $$ as well.
Only thing is our current RHD depth is putrid and our LHD is packed full of prospects. ( reason why Smith should be used to upgrade a point of weakness - scoring winger )
Hopefully the D market is hot and some team that misses out on Charot / Chychrun will be willing to pay to get someone like Smith or Severson.
I’d rather move Smith but Severson might be redundant and cost too much $$ as well.
Only thing is our current RHD depth is putrid and our LHD is packed full of prospects. ( reason why Smith should be used to upgrade a point of weakness - scoring winger )
Eggtimer
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Smith would / should be moved way before Graves .
Graves and Hamilton pairing was very good (when both healthy) .
I also think maybe Smiths draft pedigree, age , contract status , and WHL success might get the Devils a better return than Graves plus Graves fills a role amd need more so than Smith.
Smith has been struggling with making good reads and decisions with the puck this year. His skating has never been great (edge work is good though) and lacks elite foot speed. His IQ was one of his strengths but that has taken a step back this year so far. I think his early injury hurt him this year as he missed out on training camp. I’m not sure if he has lingering effects from his injury or what’s going on but he has regressed this year.
HugeInTheShire
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I agree with what you're saying and I wouldn't mind trading the 1st but not before the TDL, at the draft I could see it
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If it's a deadline move this year, Graves pretty easily.
Off season move, I could see it being Smith...but given his struggles, unless we are getting dollar for dollar value, I don't see us moving him (though it could make sense to put out feelers if his game comes back a bit next year given the logjam of LHD we have).
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That's selling low on Smith and buying high on Crouse.
That's how bad teams stay bad.
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He was hurt before the season, didn't really get into anything in camp and I'm pretty sure that he's just been nicked up and in pain all year. Its a pretty sizeable difference between where he was last year and what he is this year now, so it feels like that is what is going on. Obviously it could have been last year that was the mirage, but that's what the Devils will need to figure out next season.
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Smith has been terrible this season, so any team acquiring him can't trust that he'll be a guy outperforming his ELC. That kind of ruins the fantasy of NJ getting a major return for him. He's also Jack Hughes's roommate and good friend. Devils have to try to get his game right next year.
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I think we should hold off on moving Smith until we know which side Luke is gonna play on in the NHL. If Luke plays on the right we’re going to want to keep Smith.
We also don’t know how Muk is gonna look and that really leaves Bahl and Okhotyuk.
We also don’t know how Muk is gonna look and that really leaves Bahl and Okhotyuk.
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I'd keep him and cross my fingers he gains value. NJ has lots of LD depth *in theory* but until the youngsters prove themselves, there are no guarantees there. Might as well see what they have in the player. I think there's a decent chance his value goes up, even if he just rebounds to consistently being an offensive dman who can move the puck. That type of player is pretty valuable....
Certainly understand potentially using him as a trade chip to upgrade up front though
Certainly understand potentially using him as a trade chip to upgrade up front though
Hes 21. He's played 89 NHL games and has 36 points. Not every defenseman is going to be Hughes or Makar. I see no reason behind trading a young gifted offensive defenseman.
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If Chychrun is moving for picks and prospects, I think this makes sense.
Especially if Jake Neighbours is the principal return in a Blues deal, as an example. Something where a young blue liner isn’t the chief prospect.
Seems like team that is out of contention should be patient with recently touted prospect. In the few devils games I’ve seen he has been bad, but if we can see that so can other teams. You’re not likely to get enough for him to be worth bailing on whatever upside remains.
He's been the worst skater on the team this year bar none. With that said he's a 21 year old D who had a good rookie year and a great pedigree. The only way he should really be getting moved at this point is if a deal is too good to pass up and who is offering that with his dog shit year.
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I see him ending up in Montreal, doubt there's another team more desperate for a PMD than the Habs and he's got a connection with Gally (assuming he's not dealt as well)
Not much left to offer in the way of a Top 6 forward but will have picks coming out the wazoo in 6 weeks that NJ can flip for a forward
Not much left to offer in the way of a Top 6 forward but will have picks coming out the wazoo in 6 weeks that NJ can flip for a forward
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Way too soon. Devils need to give him another year. He can spend offseason getting stronger and faster.
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I would not trade Smith. I think he is going to be really, really good. Good year for him to work out his issues, which I think he will.
