Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part 2 (MOD # 598)

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

He was really sharp against Toronto, this is the kind of performance we need from him night in night out.

I wouldn't be too upset if he stole us a game or 2. (or 10 would be nice)

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I wouldn't be too upset if he stole us a game or 2. (or 10 would be nice)

Yes he was very good last night.If Bruins are gonna get in playoffs,there gonna need that every game.

 

[LouJersey]

Let's be honest here he's been trash for the most part since the turn of the new year. In 2017 he's .../

Given up 3 or more goals in 16 of 25 starts

2.76 gaa

.892 sv pct.

Not sure if he will turn it around and be the goalie he's capable of consistently or will always leave us disappointed.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Let's be honest here he's been trash for the most part since the turn of the new year. In 2017 he's .../

Given up 3 or more goals in 16 of 25 starts

2.76 gaa

.892 sv pct.

Not sure if he will turn it around and be the goalie he's capable of consistently or will always leave us disappointed.

Yes must admit I don't have a lot of faith in him.But he definitely wasn't the reasons They lost last night will give him that.

 

[LouJersey]

Yes must admit I don't have a lot of faith in him.But he definitely wasn't the reasons They lost last night will give him that.

Agreed. That's the thing. There are a lot of nights he's not the reason for the loss. That's why if he can ever turn it on consistently again the Bruins could beat anyone.

 

[ON3M4N]

Rask has been off since taking that shot off the neck/collar in Nashville

 

[Hali33]

He was the goalie we need him to be last night, regardless of the outcome.

We need that to be the norm down this last stretch to get in. He better be in tonight as well.

 

[missingchicklet]

There's a reason the Bs PK and defense is ranked higher than they should be. It's called Tuukka. Stat watchers need to pay more attention to the actual games in which the defense (both forwards and defensemen) breaks completely down, makes stupid decisions, and doesn't bother backchecking at key moments. Yes, Tuukka has had some off games, just like every other goalie in the NHL. But, he is a major reason the Bs are in the playoff hunt. There have been numerous games that the Bs have won in which Tuukka was able to keep the Bs in the game in spite of sloppy, horrible defense.

 

[Coach Parker]

Let's be honest here he's been trash for the most part since the turn of the new year. In 2017 he's .../

Given up 3 or more goals in 16 of 25 starts

2.76 gaa

.892 sv pct.

Not sure if he will turn it around and be the goalie he's capable of consistently or will always leave us disappointed.

That right there is the cause for concern.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

This season

Rask 7m

.911 2.33 GA and 33 wins, 6 SO




Martin Jones 3m

.916 2.26 GA, 32 wins, 2 SO


Then you be like Ooooooo

 

[BNHL]

There's a reason the Bs PK and defense is ranked higher than they should be. It's called Tuukka. Stat watchers need to pay more attention to the actual games in which the defense (both forwards and defensemen) breaks completely down, makes stupid decisions, and doesn't bother backchecking at key moments. Yes, Tuukka has had some off games, just like every other goalie in the NHL. But, he is a major reason the Bs are in the playoff hunt. There have been numerous games that the Bs have won in which Tuukka was able to keep the Bs in the game in spite of sloppy, horrible defense.

I can't watch every goalie in every game but Tuukka gives up a weak goal in way too many games.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

The loss wasn't Tuukka's fault... but when the other goalie outperforms the All-Star goalie when the Bruins clearly outplay the other team... in a must win game. It's upsetting.

Like I said, wasn't his fault completely, and he did make some key saves, but the other goalie played that much better that kept their team ahead, even though the Bruins outshot and outchanced them.

Also, Bruins can't finish the past few games.

 

[ON3M4N]

This season

Rask 7m

.911 2.33 GA and 33 wins, 6 SO




Martin Jones 3m

.916 2.26 GA, 32 wins, 2 SO


Then you be like Ooooooo

One plays for a team that just made the Stanley Cup finals and one plays for a team where a rookie is asked to be a top pairing defensemen. Put SJ in front of Rask and I bet his numbers sky rocket, put the B's in front of Jones and we're picking in the top 10.

With all that, Rask w/ a weak defense is putting up similar numbers to Jones who has the best defensemen in the game and a far better overall defense in front of him.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

My confidence with Rask on point shots is worse than it was with Jon Casey at this point.

 

[fin8]

One plays for a team that just made the Stanley Cup finals and one plays for a team where a rookie is asked to be a top pairing defensemen. Put SJ in front of Rask and I bet his numbers sky rocket, put the B's in front of Jones and we're picking in the top 10.

With all that, Rask w/ a weak defense is putting up similar numbers to Jones who has the best defensemen in the game and a far better overall defense in front of him.

So what you're saying is, in order for Rask to be great, he needs a great team in front of him? Price doesn't have a great team in front of him, yet, down the stretch, he's been amazing in helping his team win BIG games. That's what a great goalie does. That's what a Rask isn't.

 

[veganbruin]

The Andersons who make a lot less money were better the last two games. Tuuka has looked soft at times this year. The loses are not his fault but we should expect a lot more from him. He just hasn't been good enough, nor has he held up his end of the bargain. In the 3-4 biggest games of the year he has played poorly. Unacceptable. If we miss out on another chance for the playoffs, I want him traded in the offseason.

 

[bruins repeat time]

I am not a tuukka support at all costs but really cmon . This guy was brilliant in Toronto and very very good last night . The first goal deflected off chiller right in front of him , the second deflected off carlo right in front of him and the winner was deflected in the slot by turris than pings off chara in to the top corner . He also made several great saves . Any point fingers at him the last two nights in is simply we lost lets blame him. He hasn't been average these last two games he has been great.

 

[Seidenbergy]

In the 3-4 biggest games of the year he has played poorly. Unacceptable.

I find it odd that you don't consider the last two games to be among the biggest games of the year. Good luck finding anyone to agree with that.

 

[bruins repeat time]

Anyone actually see every second of these two games or are we just looking at the score and shots . If a goalie gives up goals that aren't his fault at all but makes no big saves I wont praise him . If he lets in soft goals Ill point it out . These two games were filled with brilliant saves from him and basically unstoppable goals . He even is on tsn Watch The Play for his save which kept the leaf game tied with 1.30 or so left . He really hasn't been beat by a shot in two games considering he actually stopped rielly who was in alone on him but than it bounced off his shin pads in . The next 4 were all tough deflections if Bozak deflected off Carlo , if it didn't he certainly couldn't see it .

 

[DarrenBanks56]

I am not a tuukka support at all costs but really cmon . This guy was brilliant in Toronto and very very good last night . The first goal deflected off chiller right in front of him , the second deflected off carlo right in front of him and the winner was deflected in the slot by turris than pings off chara in to the top corner . He also made several great saves . Any point fingers at him the last two nights in is simply we lost lets blame him. He hasn't been average these last two games he has been great.

the 3rd goal was unstoppable. Ill give him that. That was on Bergeron for not taking Turris' stick there.

 

[bruins repeat time]

the 3rd goal was unstoppable. Ill give him that. That was on Bergeron for not taking Turris' stick there.

First one was heading for corner deflected off chiller two feet from him and went through 5 hole , second one hit carlo two feet from him and went in corner . Third one went off chara after turris deflected it . Toronto Rielly all alone on him ten seconds after he already robbed a guy he stops him but hits rielly shin pad and goes in . Second one after saving our bacon with an awesome save bozak shoots it off or through a sprawled out carlo .

 

[bruins repeat time]

Plenty of blame to go around in each of these two games and if anyone who actually saw one hundred and twenty minutes and isn't just pointing the finger at the goalie because we had lots of shots in one of the games we can discuss those players but zero and I mean 0 blame goes on rask for these two. He did basically everything he possibly could .

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

One plays for a team that just made the Stanley Cup finals and one plays for a team where a rookie is asked to be a top pairing defensemen. Put SJ in front of Rask and I bet his numbers sky rocket, put the B's in front of Jones and we're picking in the top 10.

With all that, Rask w/ a weak defense is putting up similar numbers to Jones who has the best defensemen in the game and a far better overall defense in front of him.

Let's not be too cute about their Stanley Cup final. Just after the Jones trade, 80% of the board had them as a lotto team. They got into the playoffs last year with 98 points. We had 93. They have a whopping 4 more wins than us this year. They're better than us, but honestly their roster is not MILES better than this one. In fact, we're the ones with the Vezina goalie...

In fact be honest. Would you trade our roster and prospects for theirs? Thornton and Marleau are on their last legs. Paul Martin is 36. You look up and down that roster and your really think it's THAT much better? I don't. Burns-Vlasic obviously head and shoulders over what we have. But we are supposed to have the better goalie and forwards.

 

[bruins repeat time]

Let's not be too cute about their Stanley Cup final. Just after the Jones trade, 80% of the board had them as a lotto team. They got into the playoffs last year with 98 points. We had 93. They have a whopping 4 more wins than us this year. They're better than us, but honestly their roster is not MILES better than this one. In fact, we're the ones with the Vezina goalie...

In fact be honest. Would you trade our roster and prospects for theirs? Thornton and Marleau are on their last legs. Paul Martin is 36. You look up and down that roster and your really think it's THAT much better? I don't. Burns-Vlasic obviously head and shoulders over what we have. But we are supposed to have the better goalie and forwards.

I personally said at the time I would've traded rask and kept jones due to money and age . I don't think jones is a better goalie but I do think he is good and considering the above plus trade value I would've traded rask.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Let's not be too cute about their Stanley Cup final. Just after the Jones trade, 80% of the board had them as a lotto team. They got into the playoffs last year with 98 points. We had 93. They have a whopping 4 more wins than us this year. They're better than us, but honestly their roster is not MILES better than this one. In fact, we're the ones with the Vezina goalie...

In fact be honest. Would you trade our roster and prospects for theirs? Thornton and Marleau are on their last legs. Paul Martin is 36. You look up and down that roster and your really think it's THAT much better? I don't. Burns-Vlasic obviously head and shoulders over what we have. But we are supposed to have the better goalie and forwards.

I would, however, trade Martin Jones for Tuukka Rask, straight up at this point.

Cap space ill invested at this point.