Value of: Turcotte vs Holtz

[Maurice of Orange]

I would actually do this deal and move Turcotte or Mercer to the wing.

Mercer is having a good rookie season and I like what I’ve seen thus far from the Newfoundland and labrador kid but I believe Dawson is way more effective as a RW then as a C but it doesn’t hurt if Mercer can center in the NHL just makes Mercer more versatile, which coaches like a lot.

Neither team moves Turcotte or Holtz would be bad asset management and is just not good business when neither player hasn’t had a chance to prove their worth in the NHL.

Holtz had what 6 NHL games, that’s not enough to go off of.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

turcotte lost a lot of his sizzle when he left college early and got split from Caufield

They didn’t even play on the same line most of the time.

Everything revolves around the Habs though according to you.

 

[Eggtimer]

Hughes
Hischier

how the hell NJ need another center

People are forgetting Mercer . Saying he is going to be better than Nico is not that much of a reach. Like it’s been said , Devils need a shoot first goal scoring forward . Like umm Holtz !? Devils need 2 more of him or a big bodied skilled winger .

 

[Eggtimer]

Double post. Please delete

 

[peconcan]

I like Holtz better but if the Devils were to consider this the GM would definitely have Hughes in his ear pushing for it

 

[KovalSNIPE]

Devils really need another center.

wut?

 

[HyperX]

I like Jaromir Pytlik or Samu Salminen as NJ's 3C options later down the road, Boqvist is still fighting for that spot as well.

if need be Mercer can play it for us. But Id prefer him on the wing forechecking with a Nico/Jack

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Devils have the exact same problem, too many pass first guys adding another for the only real shoot first guy doesn’t make a lot of sense.

 

[Kurrilino]

Devils have the exact same problem, too many pass first guys adding another for the only real shoot first guy doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Who would you actually target to trade for one of your centers?
Just out of interest because we have the same problem

 

[Forge]

If you need a wing, can I instead offer one Pavel Zacha for someone?

 

[BleedBlue14]

On paper it seems like the devils need wings just as bad. Maybe a few better matches need wise would be like one of the following

Caufield - MTL
Boldy - MINN
Zadina - DET

Probably a few others I’m leaving out here

 

[Kingspiracy]

If you need a wing, can I instead offer one Pavel Zacha for someone?

Sure, who are you after?

 

[Forge]

Sure, who are you after?

I'm not going to lie...I didn't expect you to say yes and am therefore unprepared to answer

 

[TBF1972]

Sure, who are you after?

to get a sure NO, clarke

 

[Kingspiracy]

to get a sure NO, clarke

Yeah thats a no from me dawg

 

[Forge]

to get a sure NO, clarke

Why would you want a sure No? I don't mind stirring things up with the Devils given the issues. I'm up for a chemistry trade at this point. Lets get weird.

 

[TBF1972]

Yeah thats a no from me dawg

the devils board has some big fans of brock faber as well.

 

[TBF1972]

Why would you want a sure No? I don't mind stirring things up with the Devils given the issues. I'm up for a chemistry trade at this point. Lets get weird.

i wanted clarke over l.hughes. i am obviously aware that zacha falls short to acquire him. he would be just at the top of my wish list from the kings.

 

[Forge]

i wanted clarke over l.hughes. i am obviously aware that zacha falls short to acquire him. he would be just at the top of my wish list from the kings.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

NJ doesn’t need a 3C.

 

[Kingspiracy]

the devils board has some big fans of brock faber as well.

I think he's quite popular with kings fans too.

Not sure how he is valued and whether Zacha is much of an upgrade on the spare forward parts that we have already.

I dont think that id want to move our prospects for zacha, especially if we dont know what his contract will look like.

If we could swap out Athanasou or Arvidson or a couple of other mid level guys in a 2 for 1 to help clear the logjam it would be worth discussing. (but NJ are probably in a similar boat of wanting youth to be the focus)

 

[Lockin17]

On paper it seems like the devils need wings just as bad. Maybe a few better matches need wise would be like one of the following

Caufield - MTL
Boldy - MINN
Zadina - DET

Probably a few others I’m leaving out here

Caufield for Luke Hughes ?

 

[apocalypse]

We should make the trade happen. They have the same name.

 

[FrodoBeggins]

Holtz

 

[TBF1972]

Caufield for Luke Hughes ?

As a Devils fan I say no to Caufield. Chemistry with J Hughes in the USNTDP has zero value in the NHL. I would not even want them on the same line, as both are small and light.

I would also say that L Hughes has a lot more trade value than Caufield.

The Devils could trade a LHD - from the NHL roster or the farm - to add a winger. But L Hughes would probably be the last one they would consider th move.